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Cyclists

This posting is not specific to Brentford I am simply having a rant about cyclists.  They drive me nuts.  I have lost count of how many times I have practically been mown down by them whilst attempting to cross major roads at traffic lights showing a green light for pedestrians.  This happened to me again this morning where I narrowly missed a cyclist (or he missed me) who was bombing through a red light on Putney High Street.  I have on at least 3 occasions actually seen cyclists crash into pedestrians at crossings and actually witnessed the cyclist then verbally abusive the pedestrian for being in their way!Then of course there are the cyclists on the pavements (I almost don't blame them for cycling on the pavement as I would also be petrified to cycle on the roads - if I were a cyclist)but they also act as though the pedestrian has no business being in their way on the pavements.Further, I have twice almost killed cyclists whilst driving and neither incident had anything to do with me.  The first was whilst driving (fortunately very slowly) through Chiswick High Road when a cyclist fell practically under my wheels.  The chain on his bike had broken and he just fell off.  There was nothing I could have done had I been moving at anything more than a snails pace, he would have been straight under my car.  I can't remember what happened the second time but I do know I am extremely wary around cyclists, which is of course no bad thing.  However, they appear to be immune from all traffic laws unlike the motorist who is clobbered for road tax and insurance,  mots, etc. Even to todays news of the girl being prosecuted for eating an apple whilst driving.  (However I have to say I'm not sure I could drive particularly well holding an apple).Along the Great West Road there is a cycle track but still cyclists take to the road rather than use the cycle track.  Then there are the cyclists who carry children on the back of their bikes.  Are they nuts?  My heart sinks every time I see this.  I am sure these cyclists do not commit any of the things I am complaining of above but having experienced first hand the chain breaking incident I always feel no matter how careful these cyclists are the same thing could happen to them and what would happen then to their child passenger.  In a perfect world we would all cycle everywhere and cars would be banned but since that is unlikely to happen I really feel cyclists should somehow be forced to be more responsible and certainly to obey traffic signals which relate to them as well as to cars.Any cyclists out there want to disagree?

Bernadette Paul ● 7395d18 Comments

I love the idea of cycle lanes and try to use them, but half the time they have cars parked in them or are full of potholes - which affect cyclists much more badly than cars - or they just stop abruptly, dumping you in traffic.  Or they send you on all sorts of ridiculous detours, constantly forcing you to give way or get off.  A motorist gets into a car and the engine does all the work for them, they can stop and start without any effort, sheltered from the elements.  Us cyclists have to make all the effort ourselves and that's why it's a pain to be sent on long detours.. and why many cyclists don't stop at red lights when they should.  Some people do seem to believe that roads were invented solely for the use of cars and that motorists have a god-given priority over pedestrians, cyclists and everyone else.  For every motorist with a cyclist wobbling in front of them there's a cyclist with a motorist driving too close behind them.Have you ever stood back and looked a London street with its clutter of signs, lights, bollards, painted zigzags, railings, meters, and all the other ridiculous paraphernalia created solely to cope with the Car?  Compare it to a shot of Brentford in 1900, its great wide clear streets, with the odd lampost and a feeding trough for horses... which is more elegant? Cars have ruined this city. Half our council taxes are wasted on this cacophany of tat that is our street furniture, dictated by the car, and we all just seem to take it for granted.Cyclists are doing us all a favour.  Yes, some of them are thoughtless and ignorant of their responsibility to other road users.  But there's plenty of drivers like that out there too, and with half a ton of metal (nominally) under their control they are a damn sight more dangerous.

Niall Leonard ● 7393d

To reply to all of those (Damn this forum is getting too busy!)1.  The Cycling Proficiency Test is still going in many places, budget cuts have reduced it it some areas though.2.  Serious cyclists don't want green lanes, signs, anything at all, they are all quite lethal.  All that is needed is that everyone uses the roads correctly, heres a hint to all you drivers out there:no there isn't enough room to overtakeYes the highway code tells you not to overtake then turn left."Sorry I didn't see you" isn't an excuse in law.The very weird thing is that in the land where the car is god (aka the USA), road users are much better in sharing the road easily, and these types of arguments dont really occur.  Could it be because if you kill someone ever there the law actually acts?  Over here we seem to think that white van man driving like an arse somehow deserves respect?!?!?!oh and to "They'd far rather wobble all over the road meant for the rest of us", the roads are meant for all users not just for you, in fact many roads pre-date the car, and wobbling is a recognised need in law for both cyclists and motorcyclists. 3. "How would you make the same claim on a cyclist who has no insurance?"  huh?  You don't seem to understand the law, you are suing the person not the insurance company, as it happens the vast majority of cyclist carry some form of PLI under a household or other policy.  "Before I step off a pavement I seldom need to worry about the cars it's only ever the cyclists I have to look out for."  ***HUH?*** I should think you should worry about both, stepping into the road then blaming the cyclist who hits you is total madness, has recent events taught you nothing about paying attention to all roads users?At the end of the day no-one wants to be in a accident on either end of it.  Carping on will not improve your driving, or encourage others to cycle/walk/drive better, instead use the time to think about making your own life safer, and leave others to their own devices.

Steve Peake ● 7393d