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Having worked in local government for 10 years I couldn't say I'd never caught the slightest whiff of any 'dodgy' behaviour,  particularly as I was at LBH when the events that triggered the Ombudsman investigation into the Heston & Cranford Area Committee, and although I'd left LBH as that investigation progressed I still had to give evidence etc.But equally what I don't always think Joe Public recognises is that some Councillors are elected by constituents who see things very differently to how you and I might see them, and  then Councillors have to tread the fine line between acting fairly and in accordance with protocol etc., and representing their constituents.When I joined LBH I'd previously worked at Councils where Officer recommendations were generally agreed/supported, and    it was something of a shock to the system to realise that sometimes I'd really have to fight my corner, but personally I don't think that was a bad thing and it certainly made it a better professional.Regarding relationships between developers and Councillors, in my considerable direct experience on all sides of the fence I don't see a more 'cosy' relationship between developers and Councillors than I do between residents and Councillors.  Indeed I often find that Councillors are very careful to keep a distance from developers for fear of accusations of improper behaviour etc., but not from residents - you might say that is entirely right and proper, as it is the residents that elect them, but personally I think the same 'rules' should apply, and that's why I chuckle when some residents are always quick to suggest that there's some kind of dodgy relationship between Councillors and developers,One point that very few Councillors seem to be aware of, or have ever been told (which I partly blame on how some Councils do not have Borough Solicitors attending committee meetings) that the concept of predetermination disappeared 2 years ago - now there is absolutely nothing in law to prevent a Councillor actively campaigning either for or against a development and still taking part in the committee vote on that development, as long as the vote the Councillor makes is only based on what he/she has heard/been presented with at the committee meeting.  I think it's absurd, as if a Councillor has been actively campaigning against a development they are hardly going to vote in support of the proposal at committee, but there you go.

Adam Beamish ● 3915d

I think Guy, you mean well and are one of those who are well intentioned.Maybe it's age or maybe it's direct experience - especially if one works in a field which comes into contact with contracts and authorities.Keep your own mind, never be blinkered, watch and listen, and you might be in for a shock one day. But I suspect you will eventually end up like me, becoming a cynic and wanting nothing to do with party politics.That does not mean I do not care about our society. I would stand up and be counted if I came across unethical practice and could prove it.The sad thing is that it really does take someone special and very able to rise above the mire and tackle this.  It's easier to take the 'If you can't beat 'em, join 'em option or turn a blind eye.But Keith has made a point and you must surely be aware of that.Not only did politicians at all levels and all parties fight tooth and nail to prevent the expenses scandal being fully exposed, but to this day they are still trying to find ways to curb the legitimate means for media to investigate. And still scheming ways to carry on claiming. Right here locally, we had two MPs caught up in it. Journalists were threatened and warded off by local labour party officials and members who were being 'protective'.Violence aimed at media representatives at the election count made national coverage. It may not have been the desire or intention of those MPs at the centre of the scandal, but those thugs are still happily in the midst of the Labour Party.That was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I had a lot of time for both those MPs, both very likeable people, but the rot was very evident in hindsight, quite a long time before the scandal erupted.It's not as though it's isolated to Labour, politicians of all parties are manipulated and often in such sophisticated  ways that many are not even aware of the fact they are being used in such a way.Personally, I think it is the corruptors and manipulators who are the poison.

Anthony Waller ● 3918d