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VanessaMy understanding is that, following the local elections of 2014, the victorious local Labour Party was instructed to up its game and to provide a service to local people which would be so good and so popular that local voters would never again feel the need to turn to a community-based alternative such as had been provided by the ICG (as I have said before such an edict revealed a very fundamental misunderstanding of the rationale behind the ICG, but the sentiment remains the same regardless).My understanding of this edict is patchy and I do not know by whom it was issued, to whom and in which form.  But I do now that it was made.It would appear that in the space of little more than a year the present local leadership has not only turned this directive on its head but has decided to actively challenge and confront its core principle.  Its contempt for local people and for their opinions would not be more obvious were Steve Curran to stand in the middle of Brentford High Street on a busy afternoon, fists a-clenched, and shout "Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough!" at the top of his voice to the local citizenry (whilst enjoying ample police protection from the attentions of any angry 65-year-olds in the crowd, naturally).The contempt for local people, and for every tenet of democratic thought and practice, is palpable and oozes from their every pore.It is abundantly clear, if you speak to these people, that they are proud to thrive on the "idiot" vote which they command in numbers, from people who have no interest in local affairs and who emerge from goodness knows where once every four years to cast their vote in the same manner in which they might perform a body function, or clean their teeth in the morning, without thought either of what they are doing or why.  They know that people who care enough to be active in the community are in a minority and their strategy of choice is to confront such people and to face them down rather than attempt to work with them in any way.We, as local people, must accept this situation as a reality if we are going to do anything to overcome it.  It has been overcome - in pockets, and on occasions - but as you have alluded to before a more sustained and broader community response is called for.  The task is not impossible, but it is a lot more difficult than a lot of people seem to imagine.  Please let's all approach the New Year with these realities firmly in mind.

Phil Andrews ● 3511d

Yes, you are the new councillor Guy. And I'm sure you are not seriously expecting me to trawl through hundreds of your posts to find specific references, however my recollection is clear and in any case a short, random search of just a small selection of your posts unearthed the following:1. A derogatory blanket reference to "you guys" on the Curry for Corbyn thread (30th August 2015)2. A suggestion that nobody using this forum can read on the Redlees Festival thread (13th September 2015)3. A contemptuous blanket reference to the "usual suspects" on the Morrisons Supermarket Site for Sale thread (3rd October 2015)4. A similarly dismissive reference to "the carping set" on the Missed Opportunity by LBOH thread (1st November 2015)Nevertheless you miss my point, which was not to single you out as an especially discourteous individual (you are not), but to paint a more generic picture of the institutional contempt in which the organisation which you represent in our community holds us as members of the public.  A picture which, given the recent attitude and antics of your leader in respect of Church Street and the wheelie bins, to name just two issues, I think you would be on dodgy ground to say the least to even try to challenge.And yes, I acknowledge the old chestnut - much beloved of politicians who like nothing better than to play divide and rule in the community - that residents do sometimes disagree amongst themselves on individual issues.  And yes, like everybody else, you are entitled to your own opinion on all of them.  But please do not be so arrogant as to assume that the politican's way is "the right way" to deal with them.  There remains a view held by many that public opinion still counts for something - and that view does not disappear, and never will, just because a well-oiled national political machine has the resources to suppress it from time to time. In the long run ideas can only be defeated by better ideas.  As indeed I'm sure you are quite well aware.

Phil Andrews ● 3511d