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The outdoor gym project was originated by Hounslow and Carillion, as such they publicised their intentions last year on the TW8 site. They then approached the Friends group to see if we thought it would be welcome in St Paul's, we agreed in principle with the proviso they publicised their intentions with a poster campaign within the park for all users to see. This they duly did widely in the late autumn last year, in fact some of the posters are still up with an email address for further information on the project. The Friends decision to accept the offer of equipment fitted with the aims and objectives of the Groups constitution which are to 'benefit the residents and local community as a whole' and the decision as to where to site the gym equipment was reached with those tenets firmly in our minds. However, following a second consultation on the chosen site with Carillion, the contractors, some representatives from the Friends Group and local resident’s objections were raised. An alternative site was proposed close to the children’s play area, near the water fountain, this was circulated by Carillion to all Friends members and those who objected to the first site. Unfortunately a short period was allowed for responses to Hounslow Communities owing to the contractors requiring a decision on the location. There were objections to the second location with a lot of differing opinions relating to the placement of the outdoor gym and its suitability for either of the suggested sites. After the final round of feedback it was decided jointly by all members of the project team (Hounslow/Carillion) that the oppositions for the placement of the outdoor gym were substantial enough to warrant the project looking to place it in another park in the Brentford area.I must emphasize to all that this is was not an initiative set up by or asked for by the Friends Group we merely supported and worked with Carillion and Hounslow in trying to make this happen which we have to do as set out in our constitution. On behalf of the Friends Group I apologise if the consultation wasn’t made wider, but we can only communicate with those who have joined the group. However, if anyone wishes to join the Friends Group we’d welcome your support in trying to make members of our community more immediately aware of key issues concerning St Paul’s, and to make it easier for members of our community to voice their opinion on issues such as the outdoor gym and thus become the main forum for formulating community views.

Martin Case ● 3394d

I understand it was just a few of the usual Nimbys in our street and in Grosvenor Road who did not want a 'druggie and yob' attraction located near "their" Park or the extension of 'their' Garden.It's a real kick in the guts for the one thing that would be of benefit for a great many older local people who so far are overlooked when it comes to amenities.Having spoken to one of the Friends of the Park, it was scuppered by people who have not participated  in the local Friends even though it is open to all locals with posters in the park having been up for months.This was apparently on the radar long before the friends as it was supposed to be part of the children's playground which was upgraded some years back now.But with things as they are, it was deemed ( and rather sensibly) unwise for an adult gym to be located near a children playground. Not just for the obvious reasons but also that people out of condition and carrying a few pounds can be a bit inhibited about taking the first steps to getting fitter and older kids can be vocally quite cruel as well. So the idea of a more discreet location was a good one.These gyms are designed to be silent and for those who have stopped counting their age!Clearly it was not explained and demonstrated clearly enough.It really should have been leafleted to all residents locally and options explained and a choice offered.All local residents should have had a say and that was the view of the person I spoke with.  I think that's only fair.But what a bunch of spoilsports these people who seem to think the Park is exclusive to them simply because they live by it.It is a public place for all. And it needs to evolve for modern lifestyles.I hope the Friends are going to seek a proper wider consultation on this for all residents and not just the vocal few.Maybe we can have their stance on the issue?

Raymond Havelock ● 3396d