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Are Single Member Decisions Open to corruption?

There are an increasing amount of Single Member Cabinet decisions in Councils of late and many of them have ramifications that really go beyond the sensibility of one individual making a decision.The connections between Cllr Sampson and Parking operators and the fact that clearly the wool has been pulled over the eyes of compatriots who dare not question or even get the opportunity to ask questions in Council seems to defeat the integrity of having an elected council.Likewise the dealings with Cllr's Mann and Ealing's Mahfouz with the WLWA and Waste companies.Clearly there are not being any pertinent or probing questions asked by fellow councillors irrespective of political leaning.Ealing Councillors are starting to report back to residents that they too are frozen out of the dealings within an inner cabinet.Is the same going on in Hounslow?  Should it? But more so the risk of an individual being corrupted.It is well known that Cllr Curran has had cosy chats with Ballymore representatives. As Council Leader it's bound to be an encounter both officially and unofficially.But does that make it fit and proper and morally right for him ( or any one else) to be making a single decision in which huge amounts of money and resources not to mention the livelihoods and well being of residents and employees?Especially with contracts or compulsory purchase orders. These are not supposed to be for the benefit of private developers or external interests.People seem to forget that Brentford Football Club, dear to many a heart, is a hard nosed business and now entwined with property developing. For the benefit of whom?Does that not leave Mr Curran or anyone in his position vulnerable to corruption or manipulation?Is this a good thing for democracy in an era where lobbying and manipulation is so embedded.?Surely this is something that needs to be unanimous and openly discussed and recorded in council and every councillor ought to be involved. Where is the morality and wisdom?

Raymond Havelock ● 3267d23 Comments

There remain serious concerns over elements of this whole process, beyond the more general points I have tried to make here. Respecting that, the Council agenda notes are incorrect; it is not, as suggested, that some people have failed to file due responses as to their interests in the affected land, it is that not all responses are yet due.As yet unanswered also, is that many of the Notices sent by the Council did NOT sufficiently explain what is likely to be required under the CPO scheme, nor explain [where applicable] why information respecting such large areas entirely outside of the approved scheme [and far beyond even the “crane oversailing” blue tinted semi-circles on the revised plan], is demanded.ProcessIt was a distinct requirement under the initial agreement that Hounslow would only pursue the CPO route after having given Ballymore until March this year to engage in negotiations with relevant stakeholders. Only, in other words, to the extent that negotiations failed, would Hounslow step in.As a matter of cold fact, whatever parties Ballymore HAVE been engaged with, there are any number of stakeholders with whom they have NOT engaged. The owner of the freehold electrical store adjacent to the Natwest Bank had the CPO Notice come through his letterbox as a sufficient shock to cause a mild [?] stroke, and he ended up in hospital. Inconclusive talks had been conducted years before, but at that stage use of his property and the Bank’s was not considered essential to the scheme.How many others, including the Goddard’s, have been bypassed in the last year I cannot know – but what is possible with one is possible with others.It is accepted, naturally, that in law Hounslow do not have to wait until failure to negotiate is proven, but that is a far cry from what is happening/not happening in this instance.Justification of extentNo justification for some of the CPO area covers, for example, the land owned by Goddards, Lee and Natwest.Goddards’ land lies squarely within the approved scheme area, but at all times from the very beginning, Goddards have made their position clear that they do NOT oppose Ballymore’s scheme and would not obstruct it. Their position was always that although they did not wish to part with their ownership, they were happy to be, in effect, partners in the development.Especially considering Ballymore’s acceptance that they are incapable of moving forward without an overseas partner, what possible objection could there be to a local partner? No legal justification for compulsion in selling their land exists under those circumstances; they should not be subjected to the necessity of risking costs and time fighting over retention of their rights under the Protocols, even if they were prepared to do so.As to the Natwest Bank and adjacent electrical store – both those parcels were excluded from the approved scheme. There can be no successful argument, therefore, that Ballymore’s ownership of those parcels is essential to the scheme’s success. The same situation applies to the Magpie – that is [thankfully] remaining outside both the planning approved scheme and the CPO scheme, with only temporary access and oversailing rights required – so why not apply the same principle to the Bank and adjacent property?Nobody cares what happens to the revolting County Parade [other than my wish to retain the yards], but the buildings left either side are the scant remnants of a once famous High Street, and whatever can be salvaged ought to be.Why commit Hounslow to spending money on compulsory purchases of land to the detriment of our heritage, and not even required under the approved scheme?

Nigel Moore ● 3255d

Sorry Guy, I'm stunned by your intransigence as well.It is true that Brentford's development has stalled for a long time.But equally true that not one proposal has been satisfactory.This one is far from satisfactory either and almost everyone living in Brentford except those it seems involved in local politics and has seen what is proposed are far from exuberant about it. It took well over a decade , nearer two, to redevelop Ealing Broadway.  The proposals and plans ranged from ghastly to obscene and the eventual Ealing Broadway Centre development was light years from what the Council wanted.It was the eventual change in Council attitude from resident pressure that changed things and when all were pulling in the same direction, it all happened with a full consensus. And the full gamut of the Council debating and deciding in partnership with residents first, developers last.Two wrongs do not make a right. Just because it is dragging on is simply because there are things wrong.  It is not a reason to force matters.Just look at the unsatisfactory deal with the new Brentford Football ground. Everyone knows it's a double edged sword. We all want the Football Club to stay in Brentford. But surrounded by a luxury development and with very poor road and parking arrangements? and no affordable hosting?And yet the Council allowed CPO which benefit property developers and a singular private business, BFC.  If it were for a school or library or medical facility, it would be understandable, but it is for profit of a few.To turn a blind eye to a single person decision, by a person who has had a decade of cosy relations with the developers and a series of secret meetings is well, something your conscience should give you the answer to.The Ballymore development is flawed, as are others locally and there needs to be a clear signal to developers that this Borough will not roll over to meet the preferences of developers.All the wrong signals are being constantly sent out and the developers know it and are taking advantage.

Raymond Havelock ● 3264d

“it seems to me a thriving waterside with industry, residents and culture is in Ballymore's interests as well as anybody else's.” Of course it is – and they pay lip service to the general concept too, without, however, having paid a blind bit of notice to a year’s worth of public input over the course of the “consultation” process.Had you the time to look back through the history of their involvement, you would doubtless be surprised [taking your implied naivety at face value] to read how much opposition they and British Waterways [as CaRT were then] put up to the Council’s then policies on the waterfront in the Brentford Area Action Plan, when it went through the Examination in Public.Back then, fortunately, we had better informed councillors, and planning officers genuinely supportive of waterside industry and heritage, and the Inspector accepted the Council’s positive rebuttal of Ballymore’s attempt to remove the relevant planning protections.Sadly, that was some time ago, and we now have new councillors, and new staff in the planning department, such that the relevant policies in the BAAP have been set aside to allow Ballymore free rein.The dereliction you properly bemoan is of Ballymore’s doing, no-one else’s. There was absolutely no reason whatsoever why, as a classic example, Workhouse Dock could not have been permitted to remain all these years, as a thriving hub of moorings, slipway, tidal grid and workshops for boat repair and maintenance. I have personally resigned myself to the reality that no-one with any power to do anything about all this is interested, and am content to work alongside Ballymore and the Council in implementing the approved plans – so long as they leave me alone, and at least pretend to listen to the representations I will continue to make for the benefit of what remains.My primary concern at the moment, however, is that plans may be otherwise than indicated in the published CPO Report, and nobody is prepared to discuss this until after the CPO scheme is approved. That means nobody – including [hopefully] you – has any idea of the extent of what Cllr Curran intends to sign off on. Those like yourself who are prepared to leave it that regardless – because you want something/anything to happen so much – will be responsible for the success of any underhanded abuses of process, should those indeed be planned.You are apparently insufficiently interested to even ask about these extrapolated plans, so as to be in a position to placate valid fears if all is well.The scheme as approved has ALREADY ignored the waterside issues, and that planning consent was granted despite the acknowledged dearth of any waterside strategy in a scheme that – if to accord with the London Plan – must “START from the water”. Bit late to boast of willingness to mount the barricades some time in the bleak future, once the scheme has been built as planned, and as approved by you and yours.

Nigel Moore ● 3265d

Splendid suggestion Paul.The email response [5 days ago] from Hounslow, to my urgent request for a meeting to discuss the CPO Notices and the regeneration scheme in general –“I am happy to meet you though I would look to arrange a meeting AFTER we have received the various responses from our requests for information, to enable us to efficiently coordinate meetings with relevant parties claiming land interests.” [my capitalisation]They will not, of course, have received those responses any earlier than the stated deadline of September first.My answer –“The immediate query I have that I had hoped to have answered before the requests for information were to be responded to, was the extent of the interests in the river itself outside of the application area, and outside of the area indicated on the map appended to the draft CPO. There is no mention of this in the Council published material. Further, insofar as the Council were contemplating any interference with mooring rights outside of the CPO map, there are those with such interests that happen to be overseas and unlikely to hear of this for some months. If I had a clearer idea of what was projected, I could respond to the request for information more pertinently.”Hounslow’s response –“– [still awaited] -” I am therefore writing to Persona Associates with such information as I have respecting the area within the designated map section I was sent, and requesting clarification over the legal position of requesting information for areas not approved in the CPO Report.Given the Council’s reluctance to clarify the position beforehand, the suspicion must be that they intend to slip in a far greater swathe of territory with Cllr Curran’s approval this week, than has hitherto been made public. I hope not.

Nigel Moore ● 3266d

"If he is aware of that then he is complicit"SOMEBODY has had to arrange the contract with Persona Associates to collect the information required, and these persons or person will be au fait with the timetables.If Cllr Curran is NOT privy to such vital information, what is he doing, and on whose selection, making solo choices for the Borough without it?Coupled with the unexplained maps covering areas well outside the Ballymore scheme and CPO area [and I am not referring to the ‘Blue’ areas within the CPO proposal], the way the Council is going about this will give rise to very serious objections over procedural failures, when it eventually goes up for Judicial Review, and thence, if necessary, to the High Court on appeal.So much better to have been transparent from the start; to follow correct procedure, and to ensure that no one individual is empowered to make unilateral decisions affecting those who have contributed for so long to the core character of this area [not to mention everyone present and future outside of this area, who will be affected by this scheme].It is also nonsense to claim that Ballymore have been assiduously negotiating with third parties, with the Council stepping in only after these have failed. Ballymore are using the Council to short-circuit all that troublesome effort.This is evident, not only from my own knowledge of those third parties, but can be gleaned from careful reading of the documentation Kath has linked to.An area of concern to me, naturally, has been the vague mention of buying out all mooring rights. Everyone in Town Wharf, for example, has received these CPO Notice Requests for Information, and I suspect all those alongside Marvin Architectural too. The Town Wharf site in particular, has parallels with East End developments that were able to proceed despite such moorings alongside in the control of others [in that instance the PLA]. So with precedent such as that, there can be no real need for Ballymore to extend its control beyond its own borders, just because they would like to control the “attractiveness” of their views.It is excellent that Cllr Lambert has expressed his support for the aspirations of the waterside report he has read – but how far has he considered the impact of the CPO manoeuvres respecting this, which will make fulfilment of the “principles they are promoting” an impossibility? And how can his support be anything other than empty rhetoric, when neither he nor anyone else is to have a say in the imminent Leader’s decision in two days' time?

Nigel Moore ● 3266d

She as an individual councillor has to talk to these operators as well as officers as part of the portfolio.But all this is going on behind closed doors with just selective knowledge or detail being passed to other councillors or the electorate for whom they are elected to represent.In this case all that had emerged is the minimum, but in effect it is a bit of a con to all residents or car park users.  The detail, clearly discussed in secret, was not fully disclosed.If this were a private venture, it would be had up by trading standards as poor public business practice.This is not working for residents. It is working for egos or mates or worse.Under this system even ruling party Councillors do not know the detail. Some as always, cannot be bothered, but others who do care are simply sidelined.It leaves those who are bullies and political game players to rule the roost which is what in every other walk of life is now considered unacceptable.This system leaves Cllr. Sampson open to manipulation, being mislead, or being corrupted by either Serco, Ringo or corporations who wish to profit from local authorities, or by some council officers whom, as plenty of observers of council meetings will be aware, can be very deft at sidestepping issues and keeping the lid on things and leading Councillors who they deep good profiles on up the garden path, making sure they hear what they want to hear.With the evasiveness and dismissiveness that has occurred with recent issues, it is hard not to wonder what the heck is going on.But even if nothing untoward is going on, it sure seems like it and this system without proper democratic openness is leaving these people, good or bad wide open to suspicion and further eradication of trust.  It wholly undermines true democracy.Something that both contenders for Labour leadership both pontificate as well as the Tory Leader.I think it needs to change as integrity and trust needs to be foremost in our elected system.

Raymond Havelock ● 3267d