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News item:Cannabis plants found  growing  on Worton Estate?

When I visited a house in Morris Road, on the Worton Road estate, on Monday afternoon, I was told by a friend that the Fire Brigade had been called to a house in the street as smoke was seen coming from it.The Fire Brigade found heaters (galore?) used in Cannabis plant growing and the Police were called....and they have been there for several days..investigating.This drugs business is serious! Any comment? Never tried the stuff myself. Too frightened I'd hallucinate and never be able to escape from the mental state!

Jim Lawes ● 7318d16 Comments

The amount of damage that would be caused by recreational drugs is insignificant to the amount of deaths and damaged currently caused by the criminal supply and distribution of them.75% of all crime is drug related.

Paul Davis ● 7311d

""I have to say, given a choice between being locked in a room full of drunk people and a room full of stoned people, I would choose the stoned EVERY time!""Kim: That's a very interesting message...and worthy of debate.I've had plenty of booze in my time...and whilst on many occasions it has been very pleasant and enjoyable..I have had one or two nasty overdoses on a couple of occasions..and so these days I drink modestly.. wishing to avoid such repeats..So: what have I missed..never having taken "drugs"?I would dread being trapped in a mental "stoned" state from which one couldn't escape. It reminds me of the old days when dentists smothered one with awful "laughing gas" (nitrose oxide?) whilst extracting teeth. It was dreadful becoming conscious..or waking up....with the operation still going on!....but still not being able to work out where one was...dead in heaven?.. asleep in bed? etc.If the Cannabis growing nursery in Isleworth was a harmless activity...why did the Police spend so many days at the house...before boarding up the front door etc?

Jim Lawes ● 7311d

I can't understand your point of view on this - how can controlling lethal substances be worse than leaving the distribution of them in the hands of criminals?

Vanessa Smith ● 7311d

I have to say, given a choice between being locked in a room full of drunk people and a room full of stoned people, I would choose the stoned EVERY time!

Kim Littlewood ● 7311d

Can't agree with you on this one comrade. Alcohol has been legal for ever, yet look at the damage it causes. Leaglising other recreational drugs will only make the problems worse.

Alan Sheerins ● 7311d

What the research actually said was that if you had a pre-disposition to mental health problems that taking drugs would more than likely bring those problems upon you,and by definition, upon society as a whole.It also said that if you have a pre-disposition to mental health problems and you abstain from taking drugs,you are much less likely to develop  psychosis,depression and schizophrenia and other forms of mental illness.Who knows who is pre-disposed to mental health problems?                What about own children'I'll be along in a minute ,Mum,just finishing off a crack pipe/shooting up some heroin'.....'                People make the naive,nay crass,comparison between tobacco and crack/heroin,saying that all are drugs.Well,yes they are.Which would you rather see your kids'enjoy',which would you rather see them try to give up?

Keith Iddon ● 7315d

The reason we're currently very unlikely to see any kind of state regulation of drugs is that it's proven that prohibition provides ceartin "groups" with a easy supply of liquid cash. I only have to refer to the sudden booming opium crops in Afghanistan to give you a clue. (If the Taliban did anything good it was to help keep heroin off our streets)I've plugged this book on here before but reading Michael C. Ruppert's "Crossing The Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil" which give you a startling insight to this and more.

Paul Davis ● 7316d

Cannabis today IS far stronger than in the sixties, however, there is no evidence to prove that regular cannabis use causes schizophrenia. Using cannabis if you are prone to mental health problems will not help, however cannabis DOES NOT cause mental health problems. In fact many people use cannabis regularly and lead normal lives, the same as the rest of us. I work in the drugs field and the biggest problem this country faces is crack cocaine abuse, not cannabis use.

Guy Smith ● 7316d

No-one would deny that if you already have mental health problems than any drug abuse is probably going to make things worse. The fact is if drugs were legalised there could and would be more control and at a stroke the criminal element is taken out, far better that than the bloody mess we have now, it would quite likely be far easier to regulate the supply. Mental health problems need resources and understanding, people who suffer with these problems will not be cured by allowing the illegal drugs trade to flourish, after all those people couldn't care less who they sell them to as long as they make their money.

Vanessa Smith ● 7316d

AlanThe Strains of cannabis today are far stronger than those of the sixties and schizophrenia is fast becoming a usual symptom of a regular user.Just asked the area health authority about it, they have more facts and figures than I have. 

Paul Allen ● 7316d

Read an article in New Scientist recently which reported research that concluded there was no correlation between Cannabis use and mental health problems. However in the course of my work i have met many heavy cannabis and other illegal drug users, many of them clearly have mental health problems. I am definitely not in favour of legalisation.

Alan Sheerins ● 7316d

Something needs to be done.  I know a family who had one child become schizophrenic - I understand that the father was a drug addict and when the child in his teens visited Dad - Dad introduced him to drugs.The second child in his early 20's has tried drugs through mixing with people visiting an 'open' flat, and has just been diagnosed as schizophrenic, in the same way. 

Sarah Felstead ● 7317d

Good for her - but they should legalise ALL drugs, perhaps once the main parties realise this is another tax raising possibility they may take this a bit more seriously? Stop the moralising and do something to really help solve so many of the problems surrounding this issue, it's out of control now and can only get worse.

Vanessa Smith ● 7317d

"Unfortunately I don't think there's politician alive with the guts to go for it."Not strictly true - did anybody see the woman on the news who is running for parliament on an independent Legalise Cannabis ticket?  She must have been in her sixties or beyond.  What a game lady.

Phil Andrews ● 7318d

High time all drugs  were legalized, it would take all the crime related activities out at a stroke and enable some proper control over the whole issue. Unfortunately I don't think there's politician alive with the guts to go for it. You can't get in the way of what people want, prohibition didn't work and neither does the current mish-mash we have with drugs. Cannabis is as easy to obtain as buying a packet of fags.

Vanessa Smith ● 7318d

From observations of uni mates you won't hallucinate on Cannabis or Hash but maybe on Skunk which is a engineered hybrid.My general take on things is that if mother nature grows it, its ok. A tatoo shop on Albany Road, Brentford openly advertises and sells Magic Mushroooms!As for drug prohibition? This is the most failed policy in geo-political history. Exponential increases in funding and it just gets worse and worse! Let's just say those year on year record opium harvests in Afghanistan are warmly welcomed in Langley, Virginia.

Paul Davis ● 7318d