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I appreciate you've no reason to have your finger on the pulse like I do Raymond, but much of what you've said is incorrect.Over recent years the government has widened the scope of permitted development rights, especially in respect of converting commercial floorspace to residential units.  As with many such attempts, I can totally see the wisdom behind the logic, but the practical application has proved a different matter altogether.Many authorities spent alot of money and resources on legal action seeking to obstruct such legislative changes, and got absolutely nowhere.  In my view, given the ever increasing struggles LPA's face in terms of resources, LPA's should choose their battles carefully.But going back to this specific issue, we're not talking about guidelines or recommendations, we're talking about legislation in the form of the Town and Country Planning General Permitted Development Order.And when I post on here, I post as a local resident who happens to be a planning consultant, I'm not "exploiting" any loophole, a query was raised and I clarified that it was permitted development.  And whilst yes as with any legislation there is always a slight degree of interpretation etc., both myself and the lawyers are of the same view.  You say "the very same structures are being refused elsewhere" - well, it's easy to make that sweeping statement, another to actually substantiate it.It goes back to what I said - no doubt had the LPA taken the firm stance you've so keen on, and then had the operator got an planning consultant or QC to contest that stance, it would have almost certainly resulted in a hefty costs application against the LPA.  And that money has to come from somewhere. 

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Forgive me Raymond but that's when you get a bit 'silly'.As a planning consultant on 20 years experience split equally on both sides of the fence and with my entire local authority experience specialising in enforcement, I made it clear from the outset on this thread that the structure was permitted development.From my perspective as a planning expert and a local resident, I could say that it's a disgrace that the Council has spent so much time and resources investigating something that it couldn't enforce against.  Now that isn't what I think, because there are aspects of the permitted development legislation can be interpreted differently, and also I know from experience how pushy the public can be in not accepting what they are told by a professional.  Hence I can entirely understand in this case why the matter ended up in lawyers hands, even if the lawyers only confirmed what I'd be saying since Day 1.You could have said "well, we know Officers have investigated thoroughly, and we know time and money has been spent seeking a legal view as to whether or not there was any way the Council could dispute the claim that it is permitted development, so thanks for all your efforts".But no, you actually criticise on the basis that somehow they didn't try hard enough or move quick enough.  Yet had the Council effectively done what you wanted, and gone down the enforcement notice route, the operator would have had a field day on appeal and almost certainly ended up with substantial costs being awarded against the Council  - and I can say that with authority as someone who has a very high success rate on appeal of being awarded costs against Councils for such unreasonable behaviour.  And then, when you hear that the Council have had to pay a developer or operator a four or five figure sum in costs, you'd be moaning about the Council again !.Sadly, it's this kind of constant criticism/no win scenario that drives many good officers away from the public sector.  Why do you think I don't work in the public sector ?!.

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