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Fly tipping

Perhaps the recyling  centres should reopen using the same distance system as supermarkets. Must be cheaper than having to clear up the fly tipping.

Ruth barber ● 1936d68 Comments

I suggest Sarah felstead and Jennifer Selig get your facts right before you post next time

Gill Hutchison ● 1913d

Thanks Sarah.  Good about the neighbours.  Over and OUT - end of subject.

Jennifer Selig ● 1913d

I haven't even got a car.  But my elderly neighbours who haven't been out for 9 weeks have got a better view from their front room and I'm sure their mental health is improving.

Gill Hutchison ● 1913d

Totally agree Jennifer but it probably isn’t worth your effort!  Gill has got her car parking space back now the skip has gone and the weather looks brighter for the next few days.  Kind regards.  S

Sarah Felstead ● 1913d

So you are telling me I can't post on here . I didn't know you can only post if certain people think it's appropriate to post on this site I thought it was for the whole community . Not just for some . You better let Chris Calvert Freeman know as he post from his home in New Zealand .

Gill Hutchison ● 1913d

Gill this is really tedious but if you were so anxious for Guy Lambert to see the skip himself why on earth didn't you say so and give him your address - you could have done by contacting him directly,  all the Councillors' names, wards and contact details are clearly given on the LBHounslow website, there was no need to even post on here.  I'm neutral on this matter- am not commenting on Party lines at all - I'm not a Labour voter either.

Jennifer Selig ● 1914d

Why

Gill Hutchison ● 1914d

YES is the answer, it's a long way from  Brentford, especially by bike.  GL didn't have to do that and you hardly made it easy for him to find out where you lived.

Jennifer Selig ● 1914d

Sarah What would like me to thank guy for ... Taking a photo !!!

Gill Hutchison ● 1914d

Maybe this is a useful gesture but I don't know if this is available in Ealing. I use the Greenford tip which had been closed. Experience is that councils use any excuse to withdraw services, which we all pay for. Who can blame folks for fly-tipping (I don't mean the commercial crooks). Let the councils go and clear up the mess that they effectively are creating.

Mike Lambshire ● 1914d

The problem is that fly-tippers will turn up and dump their stuff where the skip used to be because they are used to fly-tipping there now. There are so many fly-tipping hotspots around the Borough now that the serial fly-tippers are there a few times every week. This Council seems to be totally disinterested in catching them and prosecuting them.  No cameras or enforcement at all.

Steve Taylor ● 1915d

"so the intention to give householders a helping hand could very likely get builders, and the rogue waste removers abusing them."Precisely!!!

Steve Taylor ● 1915d

At last horrible skip is going tomorrow we have had vans turn up with builders rubble caretaker emptying bulk lorry's savangers going down black bags tipping the contents all over our estate and in this wind blowing all over the estate and surrounding area. At last the skip is going so we don't have to look at this ugly object anymore just outside our propertys . Well at least guy Lambert got to take a photo

Gill Hutchison ● 1919d

I couldn’t find Gills “thank you” to Councillor Guy Lambert for him going out of his way to pop over and check out the skip.  He did so very quickly too, once he had sorted out what and where she was talking about.  I imagine that the skip looks far worse from the first floor, should one become obsessed with looking at it and not take in the wider view over the grass.  Grass is at a premium in this area.  I personally think that was amazing service to his position on the Council to use up his valuable time to check out her problem.  Thank you Councillor Guy Lamberts.  ;)

Sarah Felstead ● 1925d

Keith thanks for your input. Guy said he had informed the local councillors nothing done . I don't need to explain it all again I have email a officer for the west area . We might aswell tell the skip driver ourselves . As I said wouldn't hold my breath for the assistance of local Labour councillors. They know where it is they know the issues what's more to know .

Gill Hutchison ● 1925d

Also I have explained the issue all that has to be done is the skip moved to the side of the block where it can still be seen from the road the caretakers can still see it to empty their bulk lorry . Might aswell tell the skip driver our selves who needs councillors

Gill Hutchison ● 1925d

Gill, I am affiliated to no party and none of them can rely on my vote because of any past loyalty (that's long gone), but here is a good example of a local councillor trying to assist you in getting your problem sorted and all you do is kick back.I have had help from 2 councillors in the past from different parties,and a decent one does take into account your political persuasion,let alone know it.Why are you complaining when someone is trying to help? Is it because he is a Labour councillor, I wonder?If I was in the same position as Guy, I would wash my hands of it now and let you blow on about it until you were blue in the face.But maybe that's one of the reasons why I am not a councillor.

Keith Iddon ● 1925d

I thought you said you had "taken it up with the Feltham north councillors." Why would I do it again . And as you said you know where I live and it's on the records of no defunked Hounslow homes .

Gill Hutchison ● 1926d

I have been in discussion with Cllr Komal Chaudri but she tells me you have never contacted her so she does not have your contact details. She would be happy to discuss with you if you let her know how to contact you komal.chaudri@hounslow.gov.uk

Guy Lambert ● 1926d

I knew that informing the labour Feltham  north councillors would be a waste of time . No communication no action say no more. Not very active

Gill Hutchison ● 1926d

As usual Guy Lambert you got it wrong again. What I was most objecting to was that you said "we have done no such thing".    And from the angle you took the photo it dosnt look like it's blocking anyone's view . But you haven't seen it from in side the elderly residents living room .  As usual you got it wrong again

Gill Hutchison ● 1928d

Just watched the caretaking team empty their bulk lorry on to the skip so now said skip is over flowing and higher than the skip sides. So not sure if it will be taken as it's so high

Gill Hutchison ● 1931d

And you was a councillor but was deselected.  Now your lying about me being banned from a community group which I didn't even join . Get your facts right and don't lie

Gill Hutchison ● 1933d

Politics aside (appreciate Gill is ex UKIP councillor), if your neighbour needs help given your complaint that she has not had a cal from the council, (my dad is vulnerable as a result of medical need not just because of his age) please contact  020 7084 9697 or  email Hub@hounslow.gov.ukAgain we need to work together during this situation - I’ve been impressed with ALL councillors regardless of political affiliations helping at the HUB and Patrick Barr as a nurse during this time deserves an extra special thanks.

Samantha Christie ● 1933d

Sam Christie. Who says I have to follow council or MP letters . If the photo had been taken from inside my neighbour flat then you and everyone else would see the view that impacts my neighbours . So these skips are on every housing estate so dosnt the lead member for flytipping know that . According to him it " NO SUCH THiNG " that the council would do that .  And now you are telling a sitting councillor what he should be doing from bedfont to Brentford . You really are desperate to get reselected aren't you

Gill Hutchison ● 1933d

Sam Christie who lives in bedfont are you trying to get reselected trying to get in labour good books praising the council . Because you was deselected at the last election

Gill Hutchison ● 1933d

Sam Christie I think I blocked you for your negatively towards me. I wasn't banned I never joined

Gill Hutchison ● 1933d

I don't who you are but I have never been a member of the Feltham community site as I don't like the administrator . So your fact are wrong.  And as usual you have not experienced what it is like to live on the ground floor with a skip as your view from your front room . And as for Highfields there isn't any ground floor flats there so they wouldn't experience it either. I'm glad your dad had a phone call but my neighbour hasn't . And if you are going to accuse me wrongly at least get my name correct . I was pointing out that guy Lambert in his Brentford blog hadn't mentioned to money that was recieved from govt . On his Brentford blog on the Brentford tw8 website . Which I think we have members who live in New Zealand . A bit further away than Feltham

Gill Hutchison ● 1933d

Message:Gill Hutchinson - banned from Feltham Community website because of continuous negativity ..... all the council housing estates appear to have skips during this time - the highfields community site had posts stating this was a good idea ..... so Guy id not remove the skip based on one person (who is not even impacted) and from the photos doesn’t appear to be “blocking a view”If the neighbours are vulnerable and self isolating the council will give the neighbours a call and they can Raise a concern then - alternatively they have a housing officer they can call.  The MP and the council delivered leaflets with information as to how they can contact if anyone has a problem - complaining on a Brentford website about a Feltham issue was not a suggestion in any of the leaflets..... during this pandemic I feel the council has done a phenomenal job - my dad got a call Friday to check in on him - I feel this has really shown us the council are concentrating on the important things

Samantha Christie ● 1933d

'A chicken in every pot and a skip on every corner!' With apologies to FD Roosevelt, or was it Henry VIII?

Peter Evans ● 1934d

It wasn't only the place on the estate that was bothering me ( because it was bothering my neighbour who I have known and loved for 25 years) . But that guy had said ," WE HAVE DONE NO SUCH THING " when clearly they have as he has now taken a photo of it .

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

Well when I explained it all to my neighbour she was so pleased and thanked me . She dosnt use computers or any social media . But was so thankful that the skip might be moved.  gUy I wouldn't hold your breath with the labour Feltham north councillors maybe try the conservative one . Jennifer. There speaks a woman who hasn't got a clue how having a massive skip sited in a place in full view of a ground floor flat living room . When you have had this experience then you can comment Don't tell me how or what I should do . I know perfectly well how to get things done .

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

This seems a strange way of going about getting a relatively simple and straightforward issue addressed.Going into one on a public forum as a first resort is not the best way of getting what you want imo.

Keith Iddon ● 1934d

Gill - well what a load of fuss and bother you seem to have caused and for what.  I'm no ardent Labour supporter but from Guy's pics. that skip really looks perfectly OK to me - it's hardly totally blocking anyone's view - not much greater than an estate car parked in a designated parking place.  Surely greatly preferred to fly-tipping!

Jennifer Selig ● 1934d

Yes I took my daily exercise out to Feltham and went tothe address Gill had when she was a director of Hounslow Homes. Quite the sleuth.I took a couple of pics which I hope people can see from the links here. You can draw your own conclusions (if you can see the pics) and I will raise the issue with ward councillors.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_rsMM7-QdG8P74HjLn6Ti6HetXEJV3XJ/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Mrd4CtCdhnVMOXwo_vER76g8A1bumYVM/view?usp=sharing

Guy Lambert ● 1934d

Gill you really are being unnecessesrily (splng.,give up) coy - it's taken a long thread to establish the estate concerned and that was not down to you either!  Most of us are having to make sacrifices.  Quite sure there are a few awful Labour councillers who never engage with their consituents - get out with a banner and persuade the voters in your area to vote 'em out!  You all deserve better.  However hideous that skip, it is being emptied and it's better than fly tipping.  Now that the offending position of the skip has been ascertained, maybe it can be moved to a place where it won't obstruct residents' views.  You could have got this solution far quicker had you asked in the first place - maddening woman!

Jennifer Selig ● 1934d

And the two labour councillors in my area are not exactly proactive either

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

Thanks Keith for your suggestion.  But I've just witnessed Guy Lambert on Pegasus taking photos of the said skip so hopefully it will be moved. And as he said Hounslow did such thing as use the govt funding to hire a skip it might be moved. As for my local Labour councillors don't hold your breath they don't even live local .

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

Gill, have you tried emailing the relevant council dept.to see if you might get the skip moved? You could do this and cc in your local councillor so that they know the whereabouts of the skip and the details of the issue, as in how it is affecting your/your neighbours quality of life etc. You might even suggest to them a better siting for the skip.

Keith Iddon ● 1934d

And no when I open my curtains every morning I don't like looking at a very large dirty skip filled with other people's rubbish from the surrounding area . It's not a view I relish

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

And yes Vanessa we have had builders and residents dumping rubble and household waste in it

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

Tracey.  It dosnt affect me I'm on the first floor but my elderly neighbours who haven't set foot outside for some 8 weeks it does . Until you have been in their front room you can't understand what it's like . If a large car van or transit parks on the road Infront of their living room or even a skip it totally blocks what view they have. And as a large housing block as been built at the back of us this was the only view they had left

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

Tracey there speaks someone that has no idea what it's like to live on the ground floor when looking out of their window is totally blocked by a large van or even a dirty massive skip. Until you witness it you haven't got a clue

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

That sounds like a good plan, however - in the short term - I think that rogue tippers are just one of those things that will have to be taken into consideration. I don’t know what the stats are on major building works creating rubble right now, but (again, in the short-term) I think it’s probably preferable to accept that there will be some abuse but better that than it being dumped on waste ground - or worse.

Tracie Dudley Craig ● 1934d

I think although this sounds a great idea - we should stop and have a think first. Skips - whether we like it or not - attract all and sundry - so the intention to give householders a helping hand could very likely get builders, and the rogue waste removers abusing them. The possible way to make this work would be to let people know when the skip was arriving - have at least one operative to supervise it - and then remove it at an agreed time.

Vanessa Smith ● 1934d

Gill, this reeks of NIMBYism of the very worst sort. Agreed, skips aren’t exactly beautiful but if, as you say, they are being emptied/replaced on a regular basis, then it appears that the system works. People getting rid of bigger items? Better in a skip than flytipping, no? Presumably, it’s not a forever thing. Can you not suck it up for a bit?

Tracie Dudley Craig ● 1934d

As I said previously in the thread.  Not if the skip is placed in front of a ground floor flat where the residents can't go out and all they have is their view from their front room . And that view for the last 4 weeks has been a massive skip . No it's not a good idea

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

If Gill is talking about the high rise flats in Feltham then as a long term resident of the a Borough I have an opinion ....  Years ago I visited the flats a couple of times and walked between mattresses debris and a TV smashed to pieces.  I was told that if somebody didn’t want something, they just threw it out the window.  Amongst all this were the next generation playing.  Groups of young teens looking after 2 to 3 year olds, sitting around chatting.  There was not else available to do.  Over the years the Council and community groups have worked tirelessly to bring levels of responsibility amongst the people living in the area and laws passed have helped people move on or move out.  I think that should be remembered.  The same can be said of The Summerwood estate.  When we first moved to the area I was categorically told ‘ do not go there! ‘ now it is just a few streets in the town of a Isleworth.  A skip to put extra household things in while the tip is shut seems a good saving to me.

Sarah Felstead ● 1934d

Perhaps I am missing something but providing slips across the Borough seems a pretty good idea to me as anything which helps the fight against fly tipping surely should be welcomed?

Paul Fisher ● 1934d

However if I have the right Gill Hutchinson and you still live at the same address as when you were a  director of Hounslow Homes and a Conservative/UKIP councillor before being defeated in 2014 I will take it up with your ward councillors. Feltham North is a bit off my patch and housing is not my portfolio.

Guy Lambert ● 1934d

Guy.lambert@hounslow.gov.ukor Pm me aboveor text 07804 284948

Guy Lambert ● 1934d

I'm not about to put my address on here. Just because you can't make a phone call or write a email. All I know is this skip arrived about 4 weeks ago and we was told by the relief caretaker it's there for anybody on the estate or surrounding area. To come and dump anything they want in it so we have had people who are having a clear out dumping stuff excess household rubbish that they can't fit in their wheelie bin . From the estate and surrounding area filling up this skip which has been emptied and returned 3 times so far

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

You said we have done no such thing . I have proved you wrong I'm looking at the weybridge skip as I type . Ask your caretking it's just one phone call or a email you haven't got to chase anywhere

Gill Hutchison ● 1934d

If it's a real problem, just tell me what road/estate/address. I'm not going to chase caretaking teams around the borough trying to find out where you live.

Guy Lambert ● 1935d

And when you have the information you can come back and correct your post on here

Gill Hutchison ● 1935d

Just ask your caretaking team on Monday

Gill Hutchison ● 1935d

Unfortunately I am not the all-knowing all-seeing one. So I'll take it that you don't actually want your problem addressed, just to throw around a few insults.

Guy Lambert ● 1935d

Unfortunately I am not the all-knowing all-seeing one. So I'll take it that you don't actually want your problem addressed, just to throw around a few insults.

Guy Lambert ● 1935d

He should know what's going on in the borough he represents

Gill Hutchison ● 1935d

I took Cllr Guys question to be a serious one, not to start a guessing game, Gill.

Sarah Felstead ● 1935d

Why don't you know what is going on in your housing estates . Why don't you ask your care taking dept what they have done on housing estates .

Gill Hutchison ● 1935d

We have done no such thing and the government money you refer to currently looks like covering about 1/3 of the extra costs of the pandemic. Virtually none of these costs are to do with waste - they are to do with setting up and running the Community Hub, food parcels, lost income from people who are no longer able to pay rent and council tax and a lot of other things.If you care to let me know where this problem is that you refer to Gill, I'll see if I can sort it out.

Guy Lambert ● 1935d

Not when all you look at out your front window if you isolated and can't get out is a dirty big skip being filled with half the borough rubbish it's not

Gill Hutchison ● 1935d

Putting skips in place seems a good idea. They are in a situation where they have to do something.

Nicholas Beard ● 1935d

And of Course Lambeth fails to mention the money that central govt has sent to local councils to cope with any extra cost due to pandemic . So hounslow decide to spend it large unsightly skips on estates for anyone and everyone to dump what ever they want in it . I.e. Household waste that they can't get in their wheelie bin .  Thanks hounslow council not one of your best ideas.

Gill Hutchison ● 1935d

Kerbside - and communal - recycling and waste collection is working fine despite volumes being around 30% higher than normal - not surprising as most people are at home. The Recycle360 workforce is at full strength and sickness rates are no higher than normal despite the threat of Covid 19.The Tidy Town service operated by the council has just had its price reduced from £50 to £40 for up to 5 items and it's now working 5 days a week. This is almost certainly better value than commercial alternatives and you are completely assured waste is recycled or disposed of responsibly. Flytipping is normally cleared by Hounslow Highways as part of their fixed fee arrangement: this continues and volumes are normal for the time of year. What's up is the number of reports, presumably because many people are at home and walking around for their exercise, also because the quite new FixMyStreet app is so easy to use to report flytips or other problems on a mobile device. There is no additional cost to the council for clearing flytips, though this is clearly not something anyone wants  and so we regularly fine flytippers - more than 4800 fines for flytipping and littering were issued last year. As our better CCTV systems come on stream we will be better placed to catch people this year.All Household waste recycling centres (like Space Waye and Townmead Road in Kew) are closed across London, though it's possible we might reopen them as and when the lockdown eases. If we do, we will do it in lockstep with other councils especially those in West London Waste  which include Richmond, Ealing and Hillingdon.Meanwhile, It has been good to see how many people have thanked our waste crews - everything from thank you notes on the bins through to a bottle of champagne. I'm sure this feeds through into even better service so please keep it up - a thank you costs nothing and these guys are out there rain or shine, virus or no virus.

Guy Lambert ● 1935d

That must depend on how well the kerbside collection is working as I understood that operatives were being reallocated to work on that due to staff shortages due to self-isolation and illness.  Tests have not been available to all key workers...  It is so good that many are still working.Imagine what would happen if all the kerbside collections came to an end!As I understand it www.trashnothing.com is working in some areas and so is www.hippowaste.co.uk and possibly other licensed contractors.  You must use licensed contractors and can check on the Environment Agency website.https://environment.data.gov.uk/public-register/view/search-waste-carriers-brokersWatch out for the scammer who will take your money and dump your waste around the corner, on your favourite football pitch or beauty spot, in the river etc.  Or promise you they will come back with their van/lorry having taken your money only to never return. If caught both you and the scammer can be taken to court and heavily fined.The majority of people can manage their waste.  It is much harder when you haven't separated it.  We are being asked to hang onto some of what we don't want until bulky collections and the HWRCs reopen.

Philippa Bond ● 1935d

Agree, number of staff required at recycling centres could then be reduced.

Christopher Hugh Dakers ● 1936d