Has anyone else noticed that recently it has not been the usual Lampton 360 crews collecting the contents of our blue boxes. A smallish truck came along my road at 7.20 this morning - identification on the vehicle was shb.co.uk. I wonder if they are acting on behalf of Lampton 360. I just hope that our paper and cardboard is being recycled and not going to landfill. Usual Lampton crews arrived later for the glass, plastic and cans.
Joan Adamson ● 40d15 Comments
I forgot to say that I have seen these bins on offer on Freecycle. This is free and it is the taker up of the offer's responsibility to collect and take away, and the giver can choose the taker. This is an easy way to find second hand things that you want and to give away things that you feel still have life in them and don't want. You can choose the area you live in or broaden your search.www.trashnothing.com I'm told that teachers are having to deal with an increasing number of children going to school who have not been nappy trained and are still wearing nappies. I think it is useful for parents to belong to a parenting group of some kind to get all the tips and support that help to make these parenting decisions/tasks easier as it can be rather stressful.I know one child who chose not to wear a nappy overnight ie refused loudly when we had just gone away to stay at the parents-in-law. It would have been much easier to deal with at home!
Philippa Bond ● 17d
Hi Jennifer You've made me look at reusable nappies again. West London Waste were offering a trial pack but are probably not working at the moment. However, you really wouldn't believe what reusable nappies look like nowadays because they are nothing like they used to be:https://westlondonnappies.com/about-our-packsI agree that there is a problem with such little amenity space for drying washing nowadays. What I did discover about people using disposables for their children is that unlike the way that we always emptied terry towelling nappies into the loo, people don't do this with disposables and just roll them up. I believe that the instructions are generally that nappies should be double wrapped before binning. There are some natty nappy disposal bins that will do this by Sangenic. I've seen them for both babies nappies and adults' nappies.I'm not sure that disposables for babies are cheaper because they now tend to wear them for more years than babies wearing terries did perhaps because disposables are designed to be more comfortable when wet. I also don't think you have to choose between using one or the other you can mix and match to the situation.As Guy says you can ask for an assessment if you are permanently overwhelmed.
Philippa Bond ● 19d
Yes, Townmead Road does appear to be heavily booked. Space Waye has plenty of slots but that is an 8 mile trip from Chiswick. There are thousands of families with infants who manage quite happily with a 140L bin and fortnightly collections but if your neighbours are recycling correctly and still find a problem they can get a 240L bin.If they live in a tiny flat I would expect them to have communal facilities. Or weekly collections if they live in a flat above a shop so these questions would not arise.They can ask me or preferably their ward councillor for assistance and we can arrange advice/assistance from a ward officer.
Guy Lambert ● 22d
Back to bags of dirty nappies - my neighbours are very neat and tidy, their black bags are tightly secured - hope that will suffice to stop nasty smells once days get hotter. The Thamesmead site is solidly booked - takes great determination and time to go on line via Richmond Council and book a slot. I've been told by a gardening neighbour that the site is solidly booked ahead for days/weeks! As a working family, mum doesn't drive, it is not easy to dispose of a bulging smelly bag safely and quickly. No wonder flytipping abounds when it is so difficult. Fortnightly collections are not sufficient for people with nappies, babes and elderly, also pet owners with litter trays. Any chance those families could apply for a weekly collection? Alternatively a special collection point where this type of refuse could be dropped off? And before you suggest it Phillippa, NO, neighbours cannot wash nappies in tiny flat with no outside drying access.
Jennifer selig ● 23d
Thanks Guy for the detailed information. Yes I have noticed that the paper and card chutes are not next to each other on the recycle trucks. I appreciate that it would take time for the crew to separate paper from card before putting it down the appropriate chute and that this would impact on the time it takes the crew to complete their rounds.I understand that the cost of ensuring 'purity' in the recycling of paper and cardboard has to be balanced against the costs involved to achieve that. At least we are reassured that all paper and card in Hounslow is recycled. That was my main concern when I saw it all being put down the same chute. I think all residents appreciate the recycling and waste services continuing throughout the pandemic.
Joan Adamson ● 25d
Two separate meassages from the ops manager at Recycle360"Due to breakdowns/workload we do often send out a caged tipper to remove card from rounds that might run late, or to known to have heavy card loads to enable them to stay out longer. Its brought back to Southall Lane Depot for recycling of course"It's worth recording that domestic waste and recycling volumes are a great deal higher due to people being at home during the pandemic - and a lot more goods arriving in heavy cardboard boxes."The card and paper does all go into the blue container, but we have separate compartments on the vehicle - residents are encouraged to keep the two separate as best they can in their box, as our staff do not have sufficient time to segregate piece by piece, not least as the compartments are not next to each other. While its OK that paper goes in card and card goes in paper, we get a better value for 'purer' streams of each. In an alternative world we'd consider another container for one of those materials - but then there'd be e.g. 80,000 more boxes to be supplied, emptied, returned, lost, damaged, replaced, contaminated etc - which would slow us down, lead to need for more crews, more vehicles on the road and more cost that would not be justified by the margins to be gained."All of it gets recycled, so whilst we do our best to get pure streams it's mainly a financial concern.I'm very proud of our waste and recycling service. Unlike many councils we have maintained a complete, uninterrupted service throughout the pandemic. Complaints about quality of service are down on previous years and range between 16 and 50 per month - on more than half a million collections each month. Missed collections are well ahead of industry benchmarks and recycling rates slowly increasing.
Guy Lambert ● 25d
Guy, thank you for your response and I wish it were true that all crews separate the paper and cardboard. I have witnessed on several occasions the contents of my blue box being emptied down one chute - every time I think 'why do I bother separating them'. This morning, and this was not the first time, a refuse lorry similar in design to those used for black bag collections, came along our road and the contents of all the blue boxes were emptied into the back of the truck - clearly no facility to separate paper and cardboard. The normal Recycle 360 truck came along later for the plastics, cans and glass.
Joan Adamson ● 26d
As somebody mentioned there are separate compartments for paper and card and the crews do normally separate them. In February we sold 125 tonnes of paper and 405 tonnes of card. We separate card into 2 categories where practicable because Old Corrugated Card surprisingly is more valuable than other cardboard.The crews are often accused of not separating but this is really not the case. If they do that it will be obvious when they empty at the depot and all the wagons have CCTV so it's possible to review what actually happened.Last week somebody accused a crew of tipping plastic in the cardboard but the film showed the guy who had tipped the plastic using the plastics box to tamp down the cardboard.Having good quality, well separated recyclate is crucial because - aside from ecological issues - incineration costs over £100 per tonne whilst recyclate is sold for anything between about a tenner a tonne for glass up to nearly £1000 per tonne for aluminium.Nappies are normal household waste so will be accepted happily into the 'residual waste' bins at any waste and recycling centre, whence they will go for incineration.
Guy Lambert ● 26d
In our neck of the woods, the recycling lorry takes advantage of a garden tap and hose to saturate the section of the lorry with paper and card so it compresses down into a nice squelchy pudding enabling more paper and card to be added. Suppose it saves a trip back to ... where ever it is and then back out again. Presume this sodden mass cannot be separated into card and paper. Cllr Guy Lambert will no doubt have the answer. While on the subject of recycling - neighbours accumulate great piles of nappies - they don't want them lying around for two weeks, quite prepared to take to the nearest dump, the Kew one off the South Circular - will it accept these? Chap said no answer when he tried ringing to make an appointment - anyone have the correct tel no?
Jennifer selig ● 28d
Yes Lin, I have noticed that as well. Like you I separate the cardboard and paper but I see it is all emptied into the same section. Puzzling as there is a slot for paper and a slot for cardboard. I realise it saves time putting them all together, but I wonder if they are separated further down the line in the recycling process.
Joan Adamson ● 29d
Good point Lin.Sadly small detail doesn't get relayed to us...even by Councillors.Paper and card go together...but cardboard is a separate commodity. I recalled years ago when Morrisons Supermarket had three bins side by side for GLASS. Each bin was labelled CLEAR,BROWN,GREEN.I watched the Council Contractor's lorry mixing all three types together! He was taking it all to Charlton Village. Many of us dispare at recycling habits.
Jim Lawes ● 29d
No not on our road by Gunnersbury Park. Weve had the usual truck. What i have noticed though is that (after i've carefully place the paper & cardboard separately in our box) is that they tip them both into the same slot in the recycling truck - which makes me wonder if it all gets pulped together!
Lin Hale ● 30d
Thanks for the explanation Guy, that's what I was hoping to hear. I am relieved that it is all being recycled.
Joan Adamson ● 37d
Because of the increase of waste and recycling Recycle360 have to pick up, plus breakdowns/sickness etc they frequently hire a caged tipper and crew to augment capacity, particularly for card and paper. This is delivered to our Southall Lane centre and processed into bales for recycling with the rest of the card and paper.For clarity, none of our waste (bar things like asbestos) goes to landfill. What isn't recycled is incinerated to power generators for the electricity grid. And an awful lot of this is food waste - research suggests 45% of the waste in black bins could be in food caddies where it can recycle into gas and compost (and save taxpayers about £100 per tonne into the bargain!)
Guy Lambert ● 37d