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As widely reported on the news and in the press, Michael Martin, the Speaker of the House of Commons, has launched a High Court legal challenge to stop details of MP's personal expenses claims being made public.The Daily Telegraph reports today:"The Prime Minister was among 14 MPs due to disclose how they have spent tens of thousands of pounds in taxpayer-funded expenses on second homes."Mr Brown has claimed more than £55,893 for a second home over the past three years despite having the use of a grace-and-favour apartment in Downing Street."The House of Commons has already admitted destroying records, including those of expenses claimed by Tony Blair, after receiving Freedom of Information requests."After losing a series of appeals, the House of Commons had been due to release full details of expenses spent on second homes for 14 MPs including Mr Brown, Mr Cameron and Mr Blair for the past five years."The parliamentary authorities wrote to Richard Thomas, the Information Commissioner, on Tuesday morning agreeing to release the information but later withdrew the decision to publish."The release - seen as a test case for all MPs - was finally ordered last month by the Information Tribunal, which rules on appeals made against the Information Commissioner."But shortly before the release was due, parliamentary officials announced that they would be launching a High Court action in a last-ditch attempt to block the publication of the information."Taxpayers now face a legal bill running into hundreds of thousands of pounds to fund the legal action, which will be fought on behalf of Parliament by Carter Ruck, a top firm of London lawyers."Ann Keen, the MP for Brentford and Isleworth, and her husband, Alan Keen, the MP for Feltham and Heston, claim expenses on a second home in London even though they have a home in Brentford.

David Giles ● 6800d

I agree with Vanessa. The majority of politicians in this country do not deserve respect; they appear to be corrupt, two faced and totally self interested. Most say they support one thing but vote or abstain when the time to stand up and be counted comes. This is a major reason say many people do not vote, what's the point when all you get in return are money grabbing two faced self interested hypocrites who not happy on a good wage feel the need to wring out every last penny they can get from their expenses whether needed/necessary or not.As for the stalker I hope that the Keens have reported him/her to the police. Perhaps one of their TW8 forum lackeys could tell us more about it, but I doubt it, as I for one don’t believe this person exists and if they do the threat must be being over played as being a threat to a politician usually gets one locked up. As for the Conservatives gaining a landslide victory!  I do hope not. I remember the last lot, riots in the streets, cynical manipulation of BBC TV footage showing that the miners attacked the police when in fact it was the other way round. The political ineptitude that set the stage for the Argentinians to invade the Falklands and the senseless loss of lives regaining what should not have been lost. The under the table promoting of Mark Thatcher’s career as an arms dealer! The suffering of our society’s poor for the benefit of the rich in the Thatcher austerity measures. The rape of the nation’s assets! Police road block on every roundabout in the Midlands (I was living in Leicestershire at the time). The list of unforgivable sins inflicted on the British population during the last periods of Conservative governments goes on and on and many of us have not forgotten even if many no longer vote.

Philip Walsh ● 6795d

Page 2 of yesterday's Sunday Telegraph pictured and featured the Keens as follows:"MP couple claimed £40,000 without receipts" by Ben Leapman, Home Affairs Correspondent"A married couple, both Labour MPs, claimed almost £40,000 of household expenses in a year without submitting one receipt."Alan and Ann Keen were paid the money from the public purse even though they gave no explanation of why they needed it."The payout emerged as details of MPs' expenses were released to The Sunday Telegraph by the House of Commons three years after they were requested under freedom of information laws. The Speaker, Michael Martin, will go to the High Court to challenge a tribunal ruling that further disclosures should be made."The money paid to the Keens came from the additional cost allowance (ACA), which is intended to help MPs meet the cost of maintaining a second home. The Keens have two homes: a flat in central London and a constituency home nine miles away in the west London commuter belt."While other MPs submitted detailed accounts of how they spent their ACAs, the Keens, who have been branded "Mr and Mrs Expenses", each put in monthly claims for £1,640, a figure calculated as one-twelfth of the annual permitted total, without stating what the money was for. Each received the maximum payout of £19,681.75 during 2002/3 - a total of £39,363.50 between them."There is no suggestion the Keens broke the rules. Their claims highlight the lax Commons expenses regime at the time, which was tightened the following year to force MPs to account for their spending. In 2003/4, when the new regime took effect, the Keens received £4,000 less than they had done the previous year."The other five MPs whose 2002/3 expenses were disclosed - Tony Blair, Margaret Beckett, Peter Mandelson, Barbara Follett and John Wilkinson - all provided the Commons authorities with full explanations of where the money went. For example, Mr Mandelson's claim for £12,588 included £3,850 for rent and rates, £2,100 for food, £1,050 for cleaning and an £812 newspaper bill, among other specified costs."Ann Keen, 59, is a health minister and has been MP for Brentford and Isleworth since 1997. Her husband, 70, a former football scout, has been MP for Feltham and Heston since 1992, and chairs the all-party football group. Neither was available for comment."

David Giles ● 6788d

I don't know about anyone else but I am incandescent with rage and have been for a very long time - having been one of the mugs who actively campaigned for Anne Keen in 97 and the one before when she didn't get elected I am totally disillusioned with her greed and lack of performance since being elected.  I did not vote for her last time and I wont vote for her again.  So what do we do, we now know virtually all mps of whichever persuasion are in it for themselves alone whilst telling the vast majority of voters who earn minimum wage or maybe a little better than that, that they must tighten their belts etc., we are in a world wide recession, there are no doubt wage freezes for anyone managing to stay in work (with the exception of those in the public sector of course)millions unemployed, thousands losing their homes, etc., and our glorious representatives taxing the average person to the hilt between PAYE, VAT, stamp duty etc., largely so that those monies raised can be handed:a) to the great many people that arrive in the UK from just about anywhere on the planet who need to be "looked after"; for instance, does everyone realise that the parents of EVERY child born in the UK whether the mother has ever worked here or not, is entitled to child benefit!b)  the banks so that they can give themselves huge bonuses and fleece the rest of us (I bank with Nationwide and have an authorised overdraft.  The interest rate on this has trebled since last July)c)  themselves through salaries and expenses, tax breaks, second homes, food, furniture blah blah blah.I go to work and earn a pittance in comparison. I have to pay fares to work, I have to buy my own food, no one picks up the tab for any furniture or luxuries and I expect that is the same for anyone else reading this posting.  So all that being said - who do we vote for?  Would anyone else be different?  Is there any politician left out there that really does care about improving things for the masses rather than just for themselves?  It seems to me that as soon as you elect an "ordinary person" they become far too wealthy to care about the ordinary person.  End of.

Bernadette Paul ● 6388d

"So all that being said - who do we vote for?"I agree with most have what you have said. I suggest though to wait and see as more is revealed. It was interesting to see Ann Keen on C4  Monday's news sitting behind Gordon at some nurses or health conference where Gordon was apologising (for the first time) for some of his members'  expenses and Ann was nodding profusely in agreement with everything he said (for the camera). So why did she claim and where is her personal apology and offer to pay-back if she was in such agreement with her boss?Yesterday I would have said don't vote for any major party. Vote for the little guys or as a protest go to vote but 'spoil' your paper. I would have personally been swayed to vote Lib Dem as I have tremendous respect for neighbouring MP Vince Cable and I believe Andrew Dakers has done a good job so far in local politics and has a lot to offer this community. However, after watching some Cornwall Lib Dem being interviewed by John Snow tonight - his suave, oily, self righteous, arrogant, unrepentant  attitude certainly has me thinking that if his boss can let him loose to be interviewed by C4, the party has some serious problems. So lets wait and see - if some Lib Dem 'senior' apologises for the behaviour of the out of touch with reality  'taker from Cornwall'  the party may gain some respect again.  Its early days yet and there is apparently a lot more to reveal. My view is that 'saying sorry' and 'I just followed the rules' simply isn't good enough. These sponges should pay back quickly and openly  or be hounded out of office and if they are replaced by some inexperienced outsider - so what! The country is at such a low ebb and it can hardly get worse so perhaps some novices in parliament will be like a breath of fresh air.

Steve Taylor ● 6386d

By comparison with the United States, we do not have an information society here. I would go for total disclosure for elected persons, their entire tax returns, expenses claims, declarations of interest etc., all fully viewable online.  This is something which the Conservatives opposed in the recent division. When I stood for local election, I made a public declaration of interests which I had to keep up to date, all my claims for expenses were open for public inspection (and audit) and had I been asked, I could have shown my income details also (just the one salary alas).  This is the price you pay for being in the public limelight - so be it.  The quid pro quo in my view should be higher salaries at MP level, at say £90k rather than £60k and a dramatic streamlining of the allowances system so basically it almost all goes (the exceptions being perhaps 1 weekly standard class fare to their constituency (only payable if incurred), and a secretarial allowance where the employment is managed by the Fees Office and close relatives and lovers are barred from employment. At this level of remuneration I would only have 3 months run-off pay upon defeat or retirement, and a contributory pension scheme where the scheme has to be in balance, i.e. no bail-out if it goes pear-shaped. That would concentrate the trustees' minds.At local level, I'm not sure the level of allowances is not already sufficient - I don't want professional councillors. I valued living the ordinary life of going to work and doing Town Hall in the evening.

Dan Filson ● 6385d

From the BBC News WebsiteQuoutClaim: The Telegraph says Labour MPs Alan and Ann Keen - who are married - have claimed £137,679 between them towards a central London flat despite the fact their family home is less than ten miles away. According to the paper, the couple bought the London property in 2002 and have, between them, claimed more than £30,000 towards it in each of the past four years. The couple's main home is in Brentford. Alan Keen is MP for Feltham and Heston while Ann Keen - a junior health minister - is MP for neighbouring Brentford and Isleworth. The paper said the couple claimed for interest payments on a £520,000 mortgage for the London flat even though the actual purchase price of the property was £500,000. It also claims the Fees Office had reduced their awards in 2007 because both MPs had claimed for council tax on the London property. Among the couple's claims on the London property, the paper adds, were a £50 call-out fee for fixing the sound on a home cinema system.   Response: The couple say that, under the second home allowance rules, married MPs are entitled to separately claim for a property that they share and live in together. Alan Keen said the Commons authorities had agreed to the mortgage repayment claims after the couple explained to them that their bank had asked for the loan to be secured against both properties for added security. He said the authorities had agreed that the value of the London flat was £520,000, the couple having bought it for £500,000 and agreed to pay the seller an additional £20,000 for fixtures and fittings. Unquote£20,000 sounds a lot for fixtures and fittings and it keeps them below the next stamp duty increase. I trust they have proof of what they paid £20,000 for as if this is inspected by the Inland Revenue it could be shown as commiting fraud.

Craig Quilliam ● 6383d