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Thames Water BAN us ALL

Tonite was the Resident liaison meeting at Thames waters Mogden site, meetings I have attended since 1998. I received a invite as usall a few wks before the meeting as did other reps from residents groups and the Ward Councilors. On approaching the security gate I was met by the site manager which I thought strange as this never happened before I was asked for my name which I gave but was told I was not allowed to attend the meeting due to my involvement with the court action against Thames Water. I was told everyone involved in cour action against Thames are no longer invited to meetings and Thames will be cutting off all correspondence with those resident groups in the future. This is outrageous as I said to this guy that the Legal Action is nothing to do with these meetings but I was told to leave the site. I later heard that MRAG,other resident reps and Ward Councilors were told the same,even a gentlemen not involved in this case was barred from Attending. Thames Water for years have stated they have nothing to hide and they are not at fault but by tonights actions it shows they do have things to hide to exclude residents from a Residents Meeting. Whats the point Thames holding these meetings if Residents cant Attend. It clearly shows that we have got there attention and they know they are going to lose this fight. whats next Thames banning us from your Water? I urge you all if you live in the area get involved in this action. Contact our Friends at MRAG (add on our link page) Or contact Niel Stockdale Hugh James Solicitors on 01685 371122 Please get involved as why should you have to put up with odor and Mosquitoes. Simon Anderson_________________Thank you Chair of Ivytag www.ivytag.org.uk

Simon Anderson ● 7166d10 Comments

Here is the article in Todays Brentford,Chiswick and Isleworth times;C.I Local News<< Back to indexProtesters banned from Mogden meetingBy Sally HenfieldRESIDENTS taking legal action against Mogden sewage works have been banned from meetings discussing the site, in a move that they say has been designed to undermine their case.Around a dozen people were refused entry to the Mogden Residents' Liaison Committee meeting on Wednesday on the grounds that their legal involvement meant they were exempt from attending.The meetings are held four times a year and are attended by residents' representatives, councillors from both Hounslow and Richmond, environmental officers and Thames Water officials.Isleworth councillor, and member of the Mogden Residents' Action Group, Phil Andrews was amongst those denied access to the meeting.Cllr Andrews said: "No notification had been given to us of our exclusion until we specifically requested that our invitations be confirmed. Some residents arrived on the evening only to be turned away."MRAG is accepted as the legitimate voice of the community in matters relating to Mogden. Cllr Andrews claims some people were turned away for simply being MRAG members, even if they were not taking legal action.He added: "MRAG itself is not taking legal action against Thames Water. All legal claims are being made by individuals, the large majority of whom are not members of MRAG. MRAG has simply advertised and helped to co-ordinate the action taken by residents. In spite of this, Thames insists upon referring to all litigants as MRAG members' in its correspondence."Some of those who were allowed into the meeting were actually taking legal action against Thames Water, but were members of different residents' groups, Cllr Andrews claimed.He continued: "We believe that Thames Water's strategy is to undermine MRAG, either by discontinuing liaison meetings or by replacing genuine residents' representatives with a panel of tame and acquiescent individuals and residents' groups' who will permit the company to give an impression of public consultation without asking inconvenient questions or holding the company to account."MRAG considers these recent actions by Thames Water to be unacceptable and evidence of its continued bad faith towards the community, and will be stepping up its activities as a consequence of them."Simon Anderson, chair of the Ivytag Residents Monitoring Group, also found himself barred from the meeting, despite having been previously invited by a member of Thames Water staff. Mr Anderson has being attending these meetings for seven years and is outraged that he should be turned away now. He said: "The case had nothing to do with the meetings and if they had nothing to hide, why were they stopping people from attending meetings?"He added: "I feel the legal action could have been prevented years ago when our good friends MRAG complained to Thames but they constantly ignored the residents. Why should we residents have to suffer with the smell? It prevents us from enjoying our homes and gardens. I feel Thames Water shouldn't blame residents but blame themselves."A spokesperson for Thames Water said: "We are directing correspondence with residents who have chosen to take legal action against us, or with MRAG, which is actively promoting the legal action, through our solicitors."We will continue to investigate and respond to complaints about the site we receive directly from anyone, whether they are part of the legal action or not. We are also posting news about work at Mogden on our website for anyone to access."

Simon Anderson ● 7164d

I was one of those excluded from tonight's meeting of the Mogden Residents Liaison Committee, an approximately quarterly forum which is hosted by Thames Water and traditionally attended by residents' representatives, Thames Water officials, Hounslow and Richmond councillors of various shades, and environmental officers from the two councils.  The Mogden Residents' Action Group (MRAG) has always been well represented, and has always been accepted as the legitimate organised voice of the community in matters relating to Mogden and its activities.MRAG (of which I am a founder and a member of the committee) has now found itself excluded by Thames who now refuse to communicate with us, ostensibly on the grounds that we are "taking legal action against the company".We believe the company's position to be inconsistent and irrational on several counts, including the following:1. Representatives of the London Borough of Hounslow were not excluded from previous meetings while the abatement notices served by the borough on the company were being debated in the courts.  It was considered sufficient simply not to discuss matters which were legally sensitive.2. Thames Water gave an undertaking to the court at the conclusion of the hearings referred to above to circulate a quarterly newsletter advising locals of any progress made by the company in addressing the odour problem, and to host regular residents' liaison meetings.  The former pledge has long been disregarded by Thames, and now the latter would appear to be following suit.3. MRAG is not taking legal action against Thames Water.  All legal claims are being made by individuals, the large majority of whom are not members of MRAG.  MRAG has simply advertised and helped to co-ordinate the joint action taken independently by residents.  In spite of this, Thames insists upon referring to all litigants as "MRAG members" in its correspondence.4. Many of the residents' groups whose representatives were not excluded from tonight's meeting include individuals who are involved in claims against Thames Water.5. At least one member of the MRAG committee who was excluded from the meeting is not party to any litigation.6. Thames has refused to answer a straightforward request for clarification as to whether or not Isleworth ward councillors not involved either in MRAG or in the claims would be welcome to attend future meetings.  However Labour councillors from Hounslow South (which borders the plant but does not play host to it as Isleworth does) and Syon (the nearest point of which is over a mile away) continue to be invited.As well as the above, the Isleworth & Brentford Area Committee was last week given a "presentation" by Thames Water, but the Chair (acting upon advice) took the unprecedented step of refusing to allow members to ask any questions of the company's representatives.  We are currently in process of trying to establish the source of this advice, as well as its validity.We believe that Thames Water's strategy is to undermine MRAG, either by discontinuing liaison meetings or by replacing genuine residents' representatives with a panel of tame and acquiescent individuals and "residents' groups" who will permit the company to give an impression of public consultation without asking inconvenient questions or holding the company to account.  The latter is a tactic already employed to some effect on some of our estates by the London Borough of Hounslow.The Mogden Residents' Action Group considers these recent actions by Thames Water to be unacceptable and evidence of its continued bad faith towards the local community, and will be stepping up its activities as a consequence of them.Anybody who wishes to know more about the residents' legal action against Thames Water and how to sign up to it should visit MRAG's website at www.mogden.org.uk, or e-mail mrag27@aol.com for more information.

Phil Andrews ● 7166d