I see there is an article in the Evening Standard on this today. A good day to bury bad news?
Philippa Bond ● 61d7 Comments
The Northumberland Estate have indeed prevented any vacant allotments from being let and cultivated for a long while - preferring instead a policy of 'managed decay'. Isleworth - like Brentford - is being 'developed' to within an inch of its life, these allotments are situated in the Riverside conservation area and have been used for over 100 years, so are important for local biodiversity as well as open space. The Duke of Northumberland isn't exactly hard up for a few bob - and wheels out the same old tired excuses for needing to build on this area. He said the same when he wanted to have his hotel, the garden centre etc. He has benefitted from S106 monies for maintenance to parts of Syon Park, plus the park/house are always in use by film companies, not to mention the various festivals held there causing traffic snarl ups. This as well as trying the same tricks up in his Northumberland castle, with the consequent uproar there too. Times have moved on, we are not the peasants of old, we do not live in a feudal fiefdom and we've had enough, and above all - we care about the area we live in.
Vanessa Smith ● 60d
In many european countries an allotment plot has to provided for every flat built and within 1.5 km of the dwelling. Houses with limited open space have the same rule. That's been the norm since the end of WW2.So the open space was factored in right from the startTo have true wildlife and not just vermin, Sites have to be free of the other vermin - Humans.It's pure folly to have a "Wildlife area" if humans and domestic pets are tramping through it all the time.Allotments are protected by the Public gardens act which like parks, has gates and fencing. This is primarily to prevent stealing, inappropriate activity & behaviour and wilful damage which sadly is age old and simply happens. Hence why parks used to have keeps residing in the lodges and were locked at night.Allotments are hard work and take years of effort to cultivate effectively and a very short time for it to be undone.
Raymond Havelock ● 60d
" people were prevented from taking up empty plots."Indeed. But knowing the position it was surely unwise to allow any plots to become empty in the first place ? Plots becoming vacant could have been taken over by existing holders or their friends while still nominally assigned to the original holder. If that's what it would have taken.Saying which I don't know the actual timescale or how any of this co-incided with the chronic shortage of allotments in other parts of London.Wildlife isn't really welcome anywhere on public land, in London at least. As soon as the Councils get to hear of any, anywhere paths will be installed to allow public access. There's plenty of semi-woodland in Brentford -Gunnersbury Park or Boston Manor for example or along the canal which is regularly tidied up - which is home to wildlife - rabbits anyway to which nobody objects. Rather than say rats which are maybe harder to spot.michael adams
Michael Adams ● 60d
I really don't know the position re the allotments but in a previous thread somebody (Vanessa?) said that people were prevented from taking up empty plots.Re the allotments, while those without one can not gain access and only enjoy the land through wire fencing, they do - together with the adjacent churchyard - provide a valuable space for wildlife and that is worth keeping whether or not the land is open to all.
Anne England ● 60d
" in recent years only about a third of the allotments were in use. ” Assuming this figure to be correct then if only a quarter of the people who are now all throwing all their toys out of the pram had actually taken out allotments themselves, then Dooky would have a much weaker case,Exact same as the Gunnersbury Park Bowls Club. Had they had more memebers they would have had a much stronger case.With both allolemets and bowls clubs you'd imagine it should have beeb possible to recruit new members by word of mouth alone without the need for any expensive publicity. Had anyone cared sufficiently. Rather than attracting latter day "supporters" who never showed any actual inclination to participate when they actually had the chance,michael adams
Michael Adams ● 60d
“ The site has never been used by the general public and in recent years only about a third of the allotments were in use. ”Seems like a good idea to develop the land into housing if it isn’t being used by many.
Steve Taylor ● 61d
The allotment holders are offering to buy the site for £30,000 its agricutural value, when Dooky knows he could make that much profit on just one flat, if he ever got planning position. He's currently appealing (well to his wife anyway)These toffs didn't get where thay are by agreeing to deals like that.He's got plenty of old master painings and ming vasesthat would easily make ten times that, if push came to shovemichael adamsfull story:https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/property-news/syon-house-allotment-holders-duke-of-northumberland-row-b997999.html
Michael Adams ● 61d