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Kind of says what I pointed out. No easy answer.Any kind of spray can be carcinogenic or harmful if careless or overdoing them. To humans or animals Even air freshener, Hairspray or deodorant.  Yet we use them within the confines of home.  None are safe but not all carry clear warnings and methods of handling/use.In Parks and Farms and open spaces like canals and railways spraying is deployed with care and where conditions allow. ( Or should be )  But also ground management is vital.But looking after vegetation is very costly in terms of labour. We would not have sprays and certainly not highly effective sprays if it was done the old way. But that took huge amounts of manual labour in generally inaccessible to machine locations. Simply not possible now. Some mechanical means are blunt instruments and damage rather than control. Again the skill involved has been sidelined through lack of respect for the skills and ways of groundskeeping.This is where urban wilding is such a folly. It still has to be managed. Otherwise it's just a playground for invasive species with unmanageable roots and ends up as uneven scrubland.  Not ideal for public parks.  Blondin Park and Lammas Park is an example of what can happen in just a couple of years. Completely unworkable areas full of animal faeces, ticks and fleas and even horseflies.Now we see that the basic management from one decision ( which could have been more carefully managed and executed ) ends up with a huge amount of works just to deal with vegetation to prevent even more costly damage.And rather than 24-48 hours of an area being roped off, it's weeks of closed off areas with a huge carbon footprint to boot.Idealistic decisions without really considering the implications and actual solutions.Same with streets. Fine now many have been weeded from above. But what happens when those unchecked roots start to make pavements and footways uneven, loosen walls and fracture cables and pipes?Who is liable and who pays to fix it all and at what cost?

Raymond Havelock ● 1041d

Unlike Raymond I have no great expertise in weedkillers but  it is my understanding that the reason we have mostly stopped using them is because they are proven harmful to pollinators and likely to be carcinogenic in humans.Their licence was expected to be withdrawn in the EU (and probably the UK) this year but I believe the EU has extended to 2025 and heaven knows what the UK government will do.Contractors are required to abide by our policies and I have received a comprehensive response from officers:"Invasive and prolific plant species were identified within Boston Manor Park during the project planning phases pre our new policy position [the policy to avoid Glyphosate was introduced in 2019]. Working with the project ecologists, Landscape Architect, GreenSpace360 and the project contractor an appropriate approach in dealing with these species has been adopted which is in line with our policy. Our approach is: 1. Hand pulling or mechanical removal of weed where feasible and scale manageable, for example mechanical removal will be used around the lake2. Notifiable invasives such as Japanese Knotweed and Giant Hogweed tackled by necessary spraying programmes3. Ornamental planting beds riddled with Ground Elder and Bindweed. These have been tackled by taking out and taking away from site a good portion of soil to a necessary depth to remove as much invasive plant material as possible.In summary the approach in using chemical treatment in certain areas has been a light touch yet necessary to deal with the invasive plant problems that the site had prior to the project."

Guy Lambert ● 1044d

Trouble is if those weeds are not controlled somehow then these nice new paths will be ruined in no time at all.It's not the weed you look at that's the problem. ( Although some have nasty skin and respiratory irritants, are a haven to ticks, fleas and lice, Some are also dangerous to domestic dogs, horses and humans. ) but it's the roots that cause the real problems. A pretty looking weed can have roots that can shift bricks and crack concrete, throttle other vegetation and loosen foundations.  Knotweed, unchecked, can bring a 20 ft wall down in just a matter of a few years. Roots can travel a very long way. A four year old cultivated Gojiberry tree recently felled in my Neighbours garden because it was too thorny and flailed in the wind had roots that ran through four gardens and suckers are still coming up two years later.Locally there are a lot of what look like shrubs and ornamental trees growing in Parks and open spaces but are actually invasive species with massive root lines. They look ok but have gone unnoticed.  Traditionally root rangers like these would be 'boxed' when planted to contain the root growth and limit the damage risk to structures as well as engulf the planting.Most nasty weedkillers are only nasty at the time of spraying, once in contact with the plant the external risk is minimal and usually animal repellants are incorporated.When used you don't see dozens of dead birds or animals. It's quite rare. Foraging Dogs might get affected but could be just as affected by faeces or vomit from wild animals, ticks and other insects or fauna unfriendly to domesticated animals.Simplest solution is to close of parts of Parks to be treated for a day or put signs up to advise dog walkers to keep the dogs on a tight Leash ( which is supposed to be the norm in Public Parks except where advocated)

Raymond Havelock ● 1047d