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McDonalds Accident and LTN

This morning the Police blocked the High Street outside McDonalds due to an accidentTraffic was queuing the whole way up Ealing Road and I noticed that lots of drivers were going down Green Dragon as that was the only way to get to Kew Bridge without spending an hour battling down to Chiswick RoundaboutSo my question is, would Hounslow Council void tickets for drivers breaking the LTN restrictions on Green Dragon in this unusual situation?

Brendan Keogh-Smith ● 82d13 Comments

No surprises there then. With the chaos caused by the cycle lane it was an accident just waiting to happen. It was just a matter of time.

Courtney Gilbert ● 79d

The road layout is fine, when you know what it is.  The first time you approach the MacD junction from the High street it seems really odd that there is a cycle  lane in the middle of the road.  What I have experienced a few times recently is cars queuing to go straight on, seeing that there is this wide expanse of road beside them, undertake the other cars waiting by going into the left hand only lane, and cutting up the queue.  If a cyclist got involved in this jumble they wouldn’t fare very well.

Sarah Felstead ● 79d

Previously posted:https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/live-brentford-high-street-closed-28705801JL

Jim Linwood ● 79d

So what caused the accident near McDonalds? Did it result in a fatality which caused them to block the road to all traffic?

Courtney Gilbert ● 79d

https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/live-brentford-high-street-closed-28705801JL

Jim Linwood ● 79d

I take it you are refering to my daughter in law. 1:She has not lived with this charge for 21 years as she lived and trained within walking distance of the hospital she works at.2: When she and my son started a family it was necessary to move because of property prices in central London.3: She uses a car as she works shift patterns and as highly trained CRNA nurse is often called on in emergencies.As for short memories you should remember the NHS staff who patched you up after your bicycle crash if that accident had happened a few miles further into town they would have been paying £15 for the privilege.Guy I know you and I will never agree on LTNs but I would ask that you and your party think before you act.  The one cap fits all policies dont work.

Robert Ayres ● 79d

I understand that TfL readjusted the cameras to enforce left turn violations at Windmill Road whilst it was completely blocked and, for quite a time, no advance warning signs. There's a Pedestrian crossing that is not fully visible until you enter the turn.  On some days it was off but for a few days it remained active. Furthermore, there is a two way cycle route with  traffic signals in in one direction. Junction and markings are constantly ignored by users making it necessary to look both ways. Then the fact that pedestrians have had to walk up the road and jaywalk to simply cross the A4 causing sudden stoppages which again back up to windmill road junction.And to top it all the daily signs of emergency services of all types stuck with Ambulances and Fire appliances unable to use alternative routes. Who know how many issues with peopleslives that has caused?There is nothing in the Highway Code referring to restricted views on left turns any correct procedure for such.  TfL know this so only prosecute and quote the Right turn procedure.  Hundreds of people have probably paid fines for incorrect enforcement but rather sly enforcement as the ethos of that junction box is to allow North South free flow and right turns which of course during the works was not possible.Question is why did HounslowTfL state that this was in liaison with the local authority.So why was this permitted or actually , why was the box altered and not suspended or revised temporary signage put in place or inspected and recommended?At worst it is devious on TfLs part and slack on Hounslows part for not being pro active.  I understand via Brentford Voice that this has been raised more than a few times.

Raymond Havelock ● 79d

So it must have been a very serious accident for the whole road to be closed off for hours and hours? Apparently buses were redirected to the A4 for hours.

Courtney Gilbert ● 79d

I thought I had replied to this yesterday but it didn't work. From the head of traffic "We will void all PCNs issued on GDL before noon yesterday."I don't know if the restrictions on GDL make money - my guess is they don't and it certainly wasn't the intention. It was very popular indeed with people who live on that road previously jammed by people avoiding the Ealing Road traffic Lights and trying to get further up the traditional queue to the Kew Bridge traffic lights, which sometimes stretched back as far as Ealing Road.But people have short memories,It seems that his daughter has lived with the £15 congestion charge for the last 21 years since it was introduced by Ken Livingstone and endorsed by Boris Johnson

Guy Lambert ● 80d

The part of the road I saw cordoned off paralleled where work on the cycling lane is/was happening.

Anne England ● 80d

Probably somethng to do with the new road lay out sipposedly designed to  make things safer.It would be comicalmif it wasn't tragic.Virtue signalling has taken over from common sense.

Keith Iddon ● 80d

Does anyone know what caused the accident?

Courtney Gilbert ● 80d

The buses will take even longer with the new cycle lane and there will be more traffic chaos because the road is now too narrow for buses going in opposite directions to pass each other without one bus trying to pull over and  come to a complete standstill. Public transport fast becoming a no go.

Courtney Gilbert ● 81d

Nipping down Burford Road and onto Green Dragon Lane could be dodgy if you exceeded a 20 mph speed restricion.Mind you such a speed limit is justified on that narrow road.

Jim Lawes ● 81d

No way. They want money thats all their interested in. The only reason they introduced these LTNs was to make money.My daughter in law is a nurse and is leaving the NHS as she travels to central London and has to pay Khans charge £15 per day and why does she drive ?  (From the Metro News paper Buses are taking two hours to travel less than three miles due to congestion caused by a new low-traffic neighbourhood (LTN) in south London, it has been revealed.)

Robert Ayres ● 81d