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Well done John Carr.

With reference to the front page........ Brave and selfless, he certainly deserves praise and thanks. Such a pity the woman concerned couldn't be given the support and help to press charges.

Nick Jenkins ● 7000d8 Comments

"Do you have to give a DNA sample when you are arrested?"Yes, and the policeman quotes the relevant Act of Parliament which was passed by our obedient Labour MPs at the command of Tony Blair.  Just one more step on the road to a police state!  The significanr thing is that the sample is not destroyed even if the person is not charged or is acquitted.I hope the Borough Commander just made a mistake in his original comment.  It is true that sometimes things are not what they seem, but as a general principle it is safer to assume that they are (because they usually are).Tom Beaton.

Tom Beaton ● 7000d

The police were predictable in their handling of John Carr.Rather then applaud and praise John Carr for his actions, the police choose to further divide the law abiding community and themselves.But its not surprising. Another example of the law and its upholders siding against the victims.Todays uniformed police are useless to be frank. Similar to the keystone cops!It seems I see the results of car crime in my road on virtually a daily basis, yet I havent seen a policeman/woman for 6 months patroling the road. By the way, is this the same Commander Dizae whose character and lifestyle were much publicised in the press a while back?Adultery and general lowlife behaviour I think?Maybe its another senior police employee I'm thinking of, but the name seems familiar.

Dave Milne ● 7000d

Well done indeed. The only rational explanation for this chain of events is that the woman was too distressed to explain to the police what happened and therefore the situation at the scene was unclear. Do you have to give a DNA sample when you are arrested?

Dan Evans ● 7000d

Mr. Dizaei doesn't anywhere say that John Carr did good. He criticises him for 'taking the law into his own hands.' If anyone is in a situation in which an armed person is coming at them the only possible solution is to disable them as soon as possible and a punch in the face is a pretty good way of doing this. This is not taking the law into your own hands in fact it would be a dereliction of duty on the part of any citizen if they didn't do what John Carr did.

Mike Hardacre ● 7000d

So typical of today's police mindset.OK for someone to be attacked by a thug on the street or at home, but God help anyone who fights back or interferes!The monsters sent down for life a few days ago for the torture and murder of a 16 year old, will be out and about again - mark my words - by or before 2016.

Ann S. Allridge ● 7000d

The problem is probably that doing what John Carr did can be very dangerous and could result in even more injuries. The tone of Mr Dizaei' statement seemed to be 'he did good, but he shouldn't have done it'. And sometimes what you think you see isn't always what's really happening. A few years ago I was down near the river when, turning a corner, I saw a tall, well built fellow of about 30 trying to grab hold of a smaller woman of about 18. She tried to get away, he grabbed her and held on, she kicked him, nasty stuff. They were about, oh, 30  yards away. I started to run over there and was beaten to it by an off-duty policeman who was nearby, in the other direction, and had seen it all. What I thought was a bloke getting violent towards a woman was in fact a woman trying to jump into the river to kill herself and a bloke trying to stop her. So if I'd got to him and done something to prevent what I thought I saw, the consequences could have been terrible.Anyway. What is a pity is that it seems the police can't press charges without the agreement of the victim - I'm not sure why Mr Cann's evidence in itself wouldn't be enough.

Matt Harmer ● 7000d

It's interesting to see what Commander Dizae thinks of Mr. Cann's actions. If he thinks that helping a fellow citizen out, when they are in some sort of danger, is taking the law into our own hands then we have no chance.I wonder how he would feel if his wife or a member of his family was being attacked but received no assistance from passers by. I wonder if Mr. Cann has any respect for the law after his experience. I doubt it.

Andrew Sibley ● 7000d

Very interesting that another officer has broken ranks.

The Pseudometer ● 7000d