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New Website Launched for Isleworth Residents

A fantastic new Forum has been set up today for Isleworth Residents.www.isleworthtw7.comWork is still to be done in some areas but its up and running so please feel free to log on and start discussing issues for Isleworth as a whole.P.S.Now there is no reason for Brentford users of the TW8 Forum to bitch about Isleworthians taking up space on their precious forum.

Simon Anderson ● 6931d93 Comments

Thank you for your support Victor...and this joins the other few I have received directly by e-mail.Instead of getting on with the developement of this Brentford Forum , we are ..or I am..bogged down with dealing with cyberspace pests.""Instead of Bitching bout me why not meet me in person if not wind your Neck in Mate as I am getting Very tired of your Borringggg coments""

Jim Lawes ● 6883d

VictorI wasn't nasty to "Jessamy" i asked her to marry me and "I loved her" its called Humour as this person who has now disappeared as they were not real was attacking others on here who I was sticking up for.By the way not seen your name on here b 4 either!!!

Simon Anderson ● 6883d

Then Sarah you should go back over Simons statements I do remember how nasty he and his friends were to Jesemy  and My thinking is Jim should stay well clear of this obvious odd characher

Victor Mullins ● 6883d

2 thoughts Jim.  1 you have made a mountain out of something which would have been much quieter had you left it alone - and 2 I fully agree with you and the whole subject is a lot of cobblers.;-)

Sarah Felstead ● 6883d

SarahYou seemed quick in your above messages to belittle my postings and to keep suggesting that I should go on a holiday etc etc.You seem to be making a habit of it!I was wondering what you thought about the latest news from Simon..that postings in the name of Jason Stanley were his.  We were thus reading untruths and flannel.Whilst some people hid behind names to make unpleasant snides (eg William E Hughes)..others to submit good messages,(in my view, Mary's)... Jason Stanley..if Simon's disclosure is true...is a different kettle of fish.What's your view now?

Jim Lawes ● 6883d

"Kevin It sure is poetic justice, the TW8 politburo must have done double somersaults when they got the news"

Simon Anderson ● 6925d

I do apologise Dan.  It was your use of the name "Phil", in response to my posting, which led me to believe that your latest proclamation had been directed at me.  I shall be more careful about jumping to such hasty conclusions in the future.

Phil Andrews ● 6926d

Phil, you are being over sensitive again. The word 'followers' wasn't intended to be loaded. If you tell me what is the correct term I will try to remember to use it. Discipiles? Acolytes? (That's a joke by the way.)I am quite happy with the term freelance mischief maker though. There isn't a gang of us against you - you need to snap out of this sort of mindset as it is unhealthy. I think you would be able to trace most peoples current hostility to the previous behaviour of your colleague Mr. Burrell. Just for once this isn't actually about you.

Dan Evans ● 6926d

DanDoes it not occur to you that you and yours are the only people who have been doing the "ganging up" in recent months?Also the unnecessary use of words such as "followers" to describe individuals of whom you happen to disapprove betrays a subtle agenda of a kind, even it is simply that of a freelance mischief-maker.

Phil Andrews ● 6926d

Firstly, Phil I'm quite gratified that you don't demur with the description of me as a gentleman.The examples you quote quite clearly show that I was one of a number of people who had a problem with the behaviour of ICG members on this forum. This included the mindless cheerleading, the harassment of Vanessa Smith, the daily posts about Ann Keen's Covent Garden flat and the ganging up on anyone who posted anything that could be vaguely be interpreted as criticism. Fair play to you and your colleagues this seems to have stopped and I think your followers make a positive contribution to discussions here now.As far as I'm concerned some people asked you to modify your behaviour and you did so end of story. Your own current contributions often strike me as a bit odd and paranoid but I wouldn't discourage you from continuing to make them.

Dan Evans ● 6926d

That's hilarious. They clearly don't like you very much.Giving the Isleworth domain to George Burrell, a person who they have banned, begins to look like poetic justice.

Andy Jones ● 6926d

Phil you are right about me having a short memory in general but your examples seem to confirm my point that the complaints were against your followers in particular rather than the people of Isleworth in general. As for William he seems kosher to me simply because he had been posting for a long time on another forum before he developed a fixation on you. This is unlike the Carols, Aarons and Antony's of this world who appear and disappear as soon as the moderators cotton on to them. He is irritating, annoying and negative I grant you but I can't see how you can be so convinced he doesn't exist. Even if you have reservations about him you might as well address some of the questions he raises.

Justin Harris ● 6926d

Quite a long time ago, but I was a councillor and had been a regular user of this site for quite a long while.  I had no objection at the time because I'd presumed it to be standard procedure.

Phil Andrews ● 6926d

Who r u.....LOL????

Simon Anderson ● 6926d

Sounds very peculiar. When and why did they ask you to prove your identity?

Andy Jones ● 6926d

"We would also dearly love to know who Peter Marles was..."We?

Phil Andrews ● 6926d

I e-mailed them directly - more than once.  I'm not suspicious, just disappointed by what would appear to be a lack of courtesy.  They were quick enough to ask me to "prove" my identity.

Phil Andrews ● 6926d

Phil, did you e-mail the moderators directly or when you say you complained or are you referring to the posts you've made here grumbling about something you are not happy with? If it is the latter I would say there is a strong possibility that the moderators never saw them. I've visited the offices which are up towards Acton and all the boards are usually monitored from there. This is nowhere near the most active site and the people who look at it are generally doing other work such as design and updating the sites. The console which the moderators look at only fully displays the name of the poster and I get the impression that they only read posts if it is a new member or someone who is being a bit lairy. There are thousands of posts each week on the various boards so they rely on people to e-mail them directly when someone gets out of line. Why not ask them if you can visit? You seem to be very suspicious of them but they are quite an amiable bunch and the tea and biscuits were nice.

Andy Jones ● 6926d

I fail to see what your issue is. As one of your cronies stated you have your own website now so why post here? We would also dearly love to know who Peter Marles was who spoke with such authority on matters about the Isleworth Community Group during your self imposed exile but who has disappeared since your return - a coincidence we hope?

William E Hughes ● 6926d

JustinI've no interest in trying to work your opinions into any kind of agenda, but you do have a short memory.  Let me direct you to the "Isleworth TW7.com" thread launched by James de Vivenot on 1st March 2006.On 12th March 2006 one Carol Stanley asked: "who could not honestly say that this forum has been a better place since the little Hitlers have been sent packing? As an occasional poster who will now be more regular (my italics) I think we owe these two gentlemen an enormous debt of gratitude. This is a Brentford forum for Brentford issues, we don't have an ICP in Brentford and they and there ideas should not be taking up valuable bandwidth on this site."Looking back through the thread, the "two gentlemen" in question were quite clearly Dan Evans and Paul Corcoran.  Now, I've no idea whether either of these gentlemen knows Ms. Stanley or whether her endorsement was received by them with gratitude or with embarrassment, but neither considered it necessary to place any distance between themselves and the comments of their outspoken admirer.Needless to say Carol Stanley has not reappeared on this forum despite her promise, and for that matter Paul Corcoran has been back rarely if at all either.Ms. Stanley's comments were followed up on 14th March 2006 by one Aaron Walter, another virgin poster, who delivered himself of the interesting view that: "Dan and Carol are to be congratulated for sticking to their guns and pursuing this and judging from the lack of posts from the TW7 gang lately it seems to be working."Again, the absence of any kind of refutation would seem to suggest that Dan was not unsympathetic to Mr. Walter's interpretation of his position.The following day an Antony Mardough appeared on the forum for the first time to ask: "has it escaped the notice of some people that this forums got a record numb er of new people signed up since the dreary Isleworth gang packed up and went! I have found it uterly frustrating sitting watching this forum going round and round the same old circles and I'm glad someone finally stood up and did something about it. Lets us all support it now and make it work as it was supposed to work".Mr. Mardough's level of support for this forum since posting these comments has of course been quite breathtaking.Paul Corcoran next contributed to the same thread two days later, and Dan Evans nine days later.  Neither availed themselves of the opportunity to disassociate themselves from the views of these three people, two of whom had cited them in their postings.You imply that it would be indicative of some kind of paranoia on my part to suggest that the authors of contributions such as these were bogus.  And yet you yourself refer in your previous paragraph to "obviously bogus posters".  I would be interested to know by what criteria you differentiate between an obvious bogus poster and one who is "kosher".  The only difference I can see between the three examples mentioned and William E. Hughes are that the latter has been able to sustain his campaign of negative abuse for longer.Your personal opinion of George Burrell is respected, although speaking as one who actually knows the man it isn't shared.  However, on the basis of what has appeared above from certain of the usual suspects were my expectations that those who have demonstrated an obvious hostility to the presence of Isleworth residents on this forum would now become the most outspoken critics of the new venture really that wide of the mark?

Phil Andrews ● 6926d

That was posted by "Secret Squirrel" on the Isleworth site and I for one think it makes sense.

Ian Silver ● 6927d

I think Percy Penguin is a wonderful name. Good luck to him. I fail to see what the problem is with people posting under assumed names; everyone can exchange views and information freely - surely that is the whole idea of a forum - and if people wish to take any relationship further and communicate directly it is a relatively simple matter. I think it's all about freedom of expression and some of the comments posted here would seem to fly in the face of that, which is truly a shame. I wish the site good luck, but do hope it develops in a way that allows all to speak openly, under any username they desire, and does not let threads get bogged down by the paranoia which has so obviously infected many other threads on local forums.

Ian Silver ● 6927d

Jim Also has Ive stated when I post on Tw7 or IVYTAG yes I agree i post under "Chair of IVYTAG" BUT...........At the end of ALL my postings it says the Following:Thank YouSimon Anderson <--- My REAL NameChair of IVYTAGSo I don't see why you are having a pop at me as its not like I am posting under "Percy Penguin or Account Suspended" and if you were so concerned who people are when posting why haven't you worked out who Account Suspended is seeing as that person posted under that name on here and there postings got removed.

Simon Anderson ● 6927d

JimWhy do you keep attacking me regarding the original Posting I wrote what "George" Told me to write as he wasnt allowed to post on this website....so.....if you have a problem with the Discription please take that up with George NOT me. Thank U

Simon Anderson ● 6927d

My observation is that the moderators are quick to respond to complaints. I've only complained once - ironically when someone was having a go at you claiming you had met Nick Griffin in a pub. I was becoming hacked off with what was a spate of obviously bogus posters - mainly attacking you. I think the name was Antony Norris in this instance. (Incidentally your bete noir Dan also gave this bloke an earful at the time). I got a very nice response to my e-mail from thanking me for letting them know and the post disappeared soon after with nothing more heard from the author but no specifics from the moderators. You seem convinced that some other posters aren't genuine but I don't see what grounds you have for this other than you can't track down their address and they are often critical of you. This does come across as slightly sinister on your part although I'm sure you don't mean it to be. As Jim Lawes pointed out William or Bill Hughes used to be an active poster on another forum. I don't warm to the bloke personally as his only mode appears to be snide but he seems kosher enough.There also appears to be a bit of myth making going on about some people not liking Isleworth residents posting here. The only person who said that explicitly was Kevin Farnan who I think retracted it later. Some, probably me included, expressed exasperation at the pettiness of Isleworth based politics which at one point dominated this forum. Thankfully no more because it seems to have broadened out in participation terms. I think you are misrepresenting what people have said quite significantly but if you can find specific examples of where people actually did say that Isleworth-based posters should post here rather than some specific Isleworth based posters should behave a bit better then I would stand corrected.The comments I made about the new forum were simply based on the fact that I don't like the bloke who is running it and that is because he gave me a volley of abuse with no provocation on my part. You can try and work that into some sort of agenda if you like but it really is just as simple as that.

Justin Harris ● 6927d

It seems a lot of people want a public forum but with limited access to those who are like them and hold the same views as themselves.In that case I think they would do better to form a private club where they wouldn't be troubled by any of these issues at all.Remember, it's pretty certain that it's only local residents offering any opinions on the sites - they are part of the community whether you like it or not.

Ian Silver ● 6927d

Absoloutly not Isleworth and old isleworth are one and the same and yes there are always some wingeing poms but best to ignore

Graeme Perkins ● 6927d

"BrentfordTW8.com and the other forums are a bit of anomaly in the on-line world in using real names (or maybe not if you believe Phil!)"My complaint is that in certain instances the moderators of this site appear not to be prepared to check.  Alternatively it may be the case that they have indeed checked and satisfied themselves of the bona fides of certain users of this forum but simply lack the courtesy to confirm to me, the complainant, that they have done so.  I wasn't asking that the personal details of these people be provided to me, simply for an assurance that the mods had checked them out themselves.  In some respects a site which is a free-for-all is actually less pernicious.  It is instantly obvious that "Percy Penguin", "Latecomer" and "Watcher" are made-up names, but as "William E. Hughes" the poster is able to maintain a deception.It seems likely to me that the very same people who a few months ago were engaged in a concerted campaign to hound Isleworth-based posters from this forum are now working to sabotage a new initiative which, if successful, would help them to achieve this very objective.I'll leave you, and others, to consider why this should be.

Phil Andrews ● 6927d

Hi,Just went there but it is very, very slow.Possibly caught it at the wrong time so will try again later. Hopefully a temporary glitch and not a poor server

Ian Silver ● 6927d

... so we are not going to be "ticked off" if posting about topics outside the 'Old' Isleworth area?  ...?  :-)

Sarah Felstead ● 6927d

should have titled as abovebtw any suggestions for threads ?sensible please

Graeme Perkins ● 6927d

It has to be said Isleworth already has had an online forum non political and non profit making  for some time  only reason not busy is that it has not been pushed it isWWW.OLDISLEWORTH.COMthe link to the forum is on the home page

Graeme Perkins ● 6927d

Stop judging then.Many people maketh the world and if you are asking me sincerely?  Then what Simon posts and the way he posts is all superficial to me.  At least he told us that the site was there.  I haven't looked at it, and probably won’t do so as the talk so far has been completely off putting – particularly with your reference to dick heads and some of the other stuff you have said is going on.Your comments were valid - but you added to the ‘Uncle Bill whiners’ instead of clarifying your normal sensible questions – so I re-worked your posting.  The ‘couldn’t help it chaps’ was inclusive of you.

Sarah Felstead ● 6927d

It seems a lot of people want a public forum but with limited access to those who are like them and hold the same views as themselves.In that case I think they would do better to form a private club where they wouldn't be troubled by any of these issues at all.Remember, it's pretty certain that it's only local residents offering any opinions on the sites - they are part of the community whether you like it or not.

Ian Silver ● 6927d

Still don't understand some of your postings Sarah.

Jim Lawes ● 6927d

Seems a sensible summary Jim. One point of information most discussion boards operate on a 'handle' basis because a) it is easier to manage and b) if you are onshore then it is a breach of the Data Protection Act to hold personal details on people if you are not properly registered. BrentfordTW8.com and the other forums are a bit of anomaly in the on-line world in using real names (or maybe not if you believe Phil!).

Justin Harris ● 6927d

...that little bit of sunshine, per-raps?  ;-)

Sarah Felstead ● 6927d

Sorry I don't understand  Sarah.Could you clarify? Am I missing something?

Jim Lawes ● 6927d

n/m

Sarah Felstead ● 6927d

Would somebody kindly explain about the new web site titled TW7.com.Jim has asked for an explanation of what had happened to the URL  - and for a pleasant introduction to launch what the website is endeavouring to do and achieve.He is also seeking clarification of misunderstandings, early mystery postings, and lewd jokes and pictures which don't in his view convey a healthy outlook.He is seeking reassurance that these blips will be just that and that the focus for the site will be as a community vehicle for information and sensible discussion.Would you also please clarify who the site is aimed at.  The main argument previously on this site was that TW8 should be exclusive to that area - so will the same argument be applied to the new site?  Does TW7 mean – the Isleworth Ward TW7?  -  or the Isleworth Postal District TW7?  The latter twice the size of the former by including Osterley and Spring Grove?A natural link with might have been keeping Chiswick, Brentford, and Isleworth within the neat package of the parliamentary constituency...together with the appropriateness of Brentford TW8 being twinned with Isleworth TW7 on the Area Committee.Linking up with the Richmond websites in that case would be cobblers.How will the site be publicised to allow other interested bodies such as the Isleworth Society, the Churches, the Shops and Professionals, the Baroque Society, the Duke, Sky TV and Harrods, all those sports clubs, the Asian Sikh Community and the developers, the College, Campion House, Campaigners, the Thornbury Road bookshop and its customers, Gillettes and its Staff website to be linked?There's so much that could be achieved.That's why he is concerned about its launch activity, the Forum layout, Topic headings, message etiquette, and the direction it might or might not be heading.

Sarah Felstead ● 6927d

In my view, its a pity that the announcement of the new website at the top of this thread wasn't announced more professionally and informatively.  Simple questions to the announcer produced  shock, horror and "I don't know mate"Had there been a competant explanation of what had happened to the URL at the beginning,a pleasant introduction and launch of what the website was endeavouring to do and achieve...it might have had better lift off..and certainly  many more good wishes.  Misunderstandings, early mystery postings, and lewd jokes and pictures didn't in my view convey a healthy outlook.And that is a worry.It's not clear if the Website is aimed to represent the Isleworth Ward TW7..or the Isleworth Postal District TW7...the later twice the size of the former by including Osterley and Spring Grove.A natural link with Neighbournet would have been a best bet..keeping Chiswick, Brentford, and Isleworth within the neat package of the parliamentary constituency...together with the appropriateness of Brentford TW8 being twinned with Isleworth TW7 on the Area Committee.Linking up with the Richmond websites may have been an odd direction to pursue.Isleworth TW7 at present stands alone.  It's a new feeling having a Community website closer to ones own doorstep..and I've have had a dabble. Will the Isleworth Society join in, the Churches, the Shops and Professionals, the Baroque Society, the Duke, Sky TV and Harrods, all those sports clubs, the Asian Sikh Community and the developers, the College, Campion House, Campaigners, the Thornbury Road bookshop and its customers, Gillettes and its Staff website to be linked?.. There's so much that could be achieved.That's why I am concerned about its launch activity, the Forum layout, Topic headings, message etiquette, and the direction it might or might not be heading.I wish George well..and will help him give it a try. Perhaps there's more to Isleworth than meets the eye. But I think dick heads or Uncle Bill whiners should be kicked off and barred. They have nothing to contribute..and are a waste of time.Already we have two (apparently) Peter Penquins..one complaining of another posting in his name, we have a flottila of people representing "Ivytag", two accounts suspended, and I'm wondering if I should just call myself Kit Kat or PO Box 1 and done with.

Jim Lawes ● 6927d

personal messaging.....

Kevin Ridsdale ● 6927d

... what does PM mean?

Sarah Felstead ● 6927d

MikeI know John Inglis and I would agree that, if he wished to, he could set up a site for Isleworth through his Online Communities network which would I'm sure would be of great service to us.  What I simply don't understand is how I could be said to have prevented him from doing this.The isleworthtw7.com domain is just one of many which could be used for such a purpose.  As I understood it the particular interest where NeighbourNet was concerned would be in the fact that the domain name is consistent with brentfordtw8.com or chiswickw4.com.  There is no obvious connection between the domain isleworthtw7.com and any of John Inglis' operations.George Burrell could have and would have set up a forum of his own whatever the ICG decided to do with the domain.  What the ICG has done, all it has done, is provide George with a URL.Unless I am missing something obvious, I fail to see how this prevents Online Communities or anybody else from branching out into Isleworth.

Phil Andrews ● 6927d

Much as I enjoy the Dan and Phil show you gentlemen do seem to have got off the point somewhat. It is sad that the ICG and Neighbour Net can't work together as Brentford residents have undoubtedly benefited from BrentfordTW8.com to say nothing of the impact that the Chiswick site has in that area. However, Isleworth is uniquely blessed in that they do have an alternative. As Dan pointed out the very excellent Online Communities network of site operates in Twickenham. John Inglis who runs it is very community focused and the sites are non-commercial so no ads or no puff pieces for local businesses. They aren't as well used as the Neighbour Net sites but I suppose that is inevitable for a purely community based operation. What is surprising is that Online Communities developed the site for MRAG so they are already active in the area and making a contribution. Of course it is entirely in Phil's gift what he does with his site but I think underneath all the barbs Dan is actually making a very good point, that an opportunity is being missed to provide something of use to all the community. I thought that the example of the appeal over the hit and run made a powerful case for why getting this right is important.

Mike Hardacre ● 6927d

It is very good to see Mr Andrews acting in such a mature and responsible fashion.

William E Hughes ● 6927d

"You know my name - my address is on the electoral roll..."Well I'd be breaking the law if I said that I'd looked it up and it wasn't, so I won't.  But you did tell us yourself that Dan wasn't actually your first name.  Not Percy Penguin by any chance, is it?Still awaiting that PM... ;o)

Phil Andrews ● 6927d

You know my name - my address is on the electoral roll. This evasion tactic of immediately calling into question the bona fides of anyone who asks you a question you don't want to answer is becoming rather tiresome.Of course you don't need my permission or approval for your choice of person to run the site but, by the same token I don't need your permission or approval to express an opinion on it.

Dan Evans ● 6927d

DanI apologise for not seeking your permission or approval before passing the domain to George.  If you would like to PM me with your postal address and real name I will see to it that this omission is not repeated on future occasions.

Phil Andrews ● 6927d

Whether he is a cretin or elderly or disabled, the fact remains he is uniquely ill-qualified to give Isleworth the kind of web site it deserves. I am far from the only person he has upset with his bombastic abuse and to describe standing up to his tirades as 'cyber bullying' is ridiculous.

Dan Evans ● 6927d

Misrepresenting me again then Dan?I have never described George as a "cretin".  I once described his actions on a particular day as "cretinous".  That was before I was in a position to fully appreciate the extent of the provocation to which he had been subjected by a pair of cyber-bullies who seemed to take great pride in their ability to taunt an elderly and disabled man.  My heroes!Don't say I never withdraw a statement.

Phil Andrews ● 6927d

"A typically know-it-all statement, if I might say so, from somebody who in fact is not in a position to know anything."Charming as ever Phil. So I was wrong then and you did approach other businesses and individuals? I was presuming you didn't because no request for interest was posted here.'Why aren't you prepared to give this new venture a chance?'You yourself have described the person who you chose to run it as a cretin. Don't say I never agree with you :)

Dan Evans ● 6927d

"Even if the person you had chosen to run the site ..."I didn't "choose" anybody - George asked us for it, simple as.  "it seems strange that no attempt was made to attract indications of interest from other residents or businesses in Isleworth who may have been better qualified."You seem very certain of this - have you been around to other residents and business in Isleworth to ask them? Or are you hacking into my Sent Items box now?  A typically know-it-all statement, if I might say so, from somebody who in fact is not in a position to know anything."Keeping it in-house as you have done looks a lot like the cronyism you always used to accuse the last Council of."Well, perhaps if I start to behave like members of the previous council I will attract the same lack of criticism from you as they invariably did?Dan, why aren't you prepared to give this new venture a chance?  You could even sign up as a user.  The new forum would undoubtedly benefit from being a recipient of your charm, wit and wisdom.  All you would need to do is to register your e-mail address and your full and correct name (he said, mischievously).

Phil Andrews ● 6927d

At further risk of being accused of cyber stalking or promoting a secret political agenda I'd like to make some comments on this matter.The recent tragic case of Marcus Macfarlane is a really powerful argument for the value of professionally run community web sites like this one. Even if only a few hundred people become aware of the search for the maroon Renault Laguna as a result of the coverage it increases the chances of it being found and justice for the young man's family.Even if the person you had chosen to run the site was a well-liked, balanced individual with superb business acumen it isn't likely that it would have the cross community appeal that would make it a genuinely valuable asset to the community. A news driven content rich site isn't really something that an individual can hope to do successfully.As you offered the site to the company that runs BrentfordTW8.com and they didn't have the courtesy to respond to your e-mail then that door, regrettably, seems to have closed. This however wasn't the only possible option. The Online Communities group run a site in neighbouring Twickenham. They are a non-commercial network and would have seemed to be an ideal group to take over the site. Also it seems strange that no attempt was made to attract indications of interest from other residents or businesses in Isleworth who may have been better qualified.  Keeping it in-house as you have done looks a lot like the cronyism you always used to accuse the last Council of.

Dan Evans ● 6927d

JimWhen i made the original posting regarding Tw7 I was just informing people what had been told to me about Tw7 i apologise if it was wrong.the website Has Nothing to do with me and I would appreciate my name kept out of the Complaints please.Also Yes Ive registered under Chair of IVYTAG but my posts end with "Thank You Simon Anderson Chair of IVYTAG" Same thing....its not as though i am posting under Percy penguin or Guest.and when people read my postings they know by my signature as above that its me.

Simon Anderson ● 6927d

"Just been back there and it is working fine now "Most smaller site will be sharing a server with hundreds of other sites. If someone on that server is using up a lot of bandwidth (usually by spamming) it will slow things down. Usually the cheaper the hosting deal the more likely this is to happen. If it happens a lot the best thing is to go to the hosting company and complain.

Andy Jones ● 6928d

Which picture has been graffiti/smudged Jim?I hope you're not talking about the London Apprentice cos that's one of mine, taken from across the Thames on the towpath a couple of Novembers ago. Your pics showed up very small but I recognised the scene straight away.My pic was modified in PhotoShop by the way to give a watercolour look.

Ian Silver ● 6928d

Just been back there and it is working fine now - I think when I went on before there must've been server problems - it was unbelievably slow.Anyway, I do like the format; it is very similar to football365.com and that is a fantastic site.Does anyone go there ever? (it is aimed at football nuts)

Ian Silver ● 6928d

""The TW7 site is far more active and well-used than this one was five days into its existence.""If you see the members lists, most of the posts have been by George (answering questions), Percy Penquin (who seems to have  two identities..and someone else is apparently using that name too), Chair IVYTAG, (I would prefer to see names used ..not titles)..and myself...who is trying to find out what is going on, making suggestions, and criticising the lewd and destructive postings by some.Someone has even managed to graffiti/smudge a picture that has been posted!!  There are certainly some cyberspace undesirables lurking around. Who are they?Being a serial poster on Forums (and not getting on with my work)..I'm interested to see what's happening and to help it on its way.  Simon used the words "It was a fantastic new website" and "It's for Isleworth residents".  No indication  as to whether it is aimed at the Isleworth Ward..or the Isleworth postal district...etc etc etc.  A better explanatory launch message at the beginning..on this thread...would have been helpful.The lewd and inappropriate postings on that TW7 Forum should be deleted before newcomers are turned off...disparingly.Perhaps I take things too seriously!!

Jim Lawes ● 6928d

Lol

Ian Silver ● 6928d

I expected criticism for releasing the domain for this project, and also anticipated that in many cases it would come from the very same people who had criticised me previously for allegedly refusing to release it.The domain was offered to NeighbourNet, who declined to respond.  In a similar manner, in fact, to which they have declined to respond to recent polite requests to confirm the authenticity of certain recent posters on this forum.  In making these requests I was asking them to do no more than they have done repeatedly with ICG posters, including myself.I have every confidence that George will in time create a lively and vibrant community forum.  The fact that he doesn't meet with the personal approval of one or two individuals on this site is not, as far as I am concerned, an issue.  I don't consider it is my role to pass judgement on George's personality - others, in most cases people who have never met the guy - may feel it is theirs.  On that we'll have to agree to differ.Those who used this forum in its very early days will recall that it sometimes went several weeks without a fresh contribution.  The TW7 site is far more active and well-used than this one was five days into its existence.The new venture will either succeed or it will fail. Time will tell.  Speaking personally I am happy to support it, but for those who do not wish to I should point out that it is not compulsory.

Phil Andrews ● 6928d

There's a surprise.

Vanessa Smith ● 6928d

Paul Fisher ● 6928d

You are misinterpreting the way the forum works. If someone replies to a post then the last posted date is displayed on the list. The fact that some days historically have no posts on the list means that every post made that day received a reply on a subsequent day - a sign of high levels of activity rather than otherwise. I'm surprised as a regular visitor to this forum you didn't appreciate this.

Andy Jones ● 6928d

I concede its quite rare Kevin but last month it went three days without a post and even last week went one day.Just scroll down previous pages and you will see a few dates missing but I guess quality is better then quantity?

Paul Fisher ● 6928d

When was the last time this site went days without a post? It seems normally to get 20 or 30 a day and over 100 on a particularly active day.

Andy Jones ● 6928d

Its very early days Ian and all messageboards take time to get really going,this board can go days without a post for example.Good luck to them I say.

Paul Fisher ● 6928d

I've visited it - it is dull and uninspiring

Ian Silver ● 6928d

Phil, I think this is a bizarre and somewhat disappointing thing for you to do. Having been, like many others, on the wrong end of an abusive unprovoked verbal tirade from Mr Burrell I don't think he is the right kind of person to run a site for the people of Isleworth. His sole qualification for running a forum seems to be that he has been flung off this one.

Justin Harris ● 6928d

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Ian Silver ● 6929d

Thanks for the warning, I've never been there before.

Phil Andrews ● 6929d

Trust me. You will need more than a moment. Ownership transfers can be a nightmare.

Andy Jones ● 6929d

Absolutely correct Kevin.  However I have simply pointed the URL to George's forum and will be transferring ownership of it as soon as I get a spare moment.So, like I say, the forum is not mine.

Phil Andrews ● 6929d

"The new site (which is not mine)"Phil, if you look up the domain on the registrars database it gives you as the owner.

Andy Jones ● 6929d

I've managed to log on tonight...and managed to post a message.But I failed in attempts to post a picture from:1) Hosting website (FIH)2) Directly from the BBC news website to TW7.Experts required to have a go too!

Jim Lawes ● 6929d

RichardTW8 was formerly edited by a Labour Party member who is now a Labour Party councillor.  To my knowledge nobody from the ICG had any problem with this for as long as the site remained what it said on the tin - a community forum for everybody to participate in.  Ironically I have had issues with it since Matt left, but that is possibly another matter.The new site (which is not mine) is administered by an ICG member, but I am informed that it is to be a community forum and that every legitimate user will be treated equally and with due respect.On that basis I would simply say give it a try and see what happens.

Phil Andrews ● 6929d

The other Moderator is "Paul Latchfield"

Simon Anderson ● 6929d

Hi GuysAll I can tell you is that its being run by 2 people 1 of them is George Burrell.Its not run by me and its nothing to do with IVYTAG nor has it got anything to do with the ICG.George is no longer on the ICG committee having resigned a few days ago so he is not running it for the ICG etc etc..All i can do is give you Georges email and you can email him directly for the answers as because as I said this forum as nothing to do with me.george.burrell4@btopenworld.com

Simon Anderson ● 6929d

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=234201Does this work to locate where I think the boundary stone on the lawn is ?The Godfrey edition of the old Ordnance Survey map of Osterley Park might be better. I've always wondered what was originally there and when to have made the boundary that shape !

Tim Henderson ● 6929d

"In addition,I have endeavoured to locate the Moderators' e-mail addresses but none seem to be available."The whole site seems very secretive about who's running it.  Simon says it's nothing to do with him. Since at least one of the moderators and most of the members (as of yesterday) are prominent members of the ICG, is it in fact an ICG forum, as was the previous one with that address?A bit more openness would be welcome, particularly in view of ICG allegations in the past about political bias on this (BrentfordTW8) site.

Richard Jennings ● 6929d

Tim ...So that "vf11" was causing problems for you too..it seems.I like your suggested subject of identifying where the boundary stones are. Didn't realise that there was one in Osterley Park.I thought that the Sultan of Brunei's pad was in LBH or Isleworth...but it seems it's in Ealing Borough.

Jim Lawes ● 6929d

So I've returned to the website...logged in..and I'm being requested to enter my user name and password...which I do.The reply is that I'm specifying a wrong and inactive user name and that the passport is wrong!!Anyone else having trouble?  Simon..you're needed. Any info?

Jim Lawes ● 6929d

I have registered for this new website this evening and logged in..and am endeavouring to post my first message.Having typed out my message and SENT it...it's blocked....saying that my username is already being used by someone else!!  This could just be a hicky of sorts.In addition,I have endeavoured to locate the Moderators' e-mail addresses but none seem to be available.I wonder why this website entertains "usernames"?  Is this to encourage whistleblowers?  I don't mind whistleblowers..it's sniedy remarks from the touchline that I don't like..especially if their identity is concealed.Anyway..I'll try again.

Jim Lawes ● 6929d

Well I was thinking of muddying the waters by chatting about Beating the Bounds of Isleworth Parish in the thread on boundaries on the new forum - but vf11 kept taking too long to  talk to my ISP -so I didn't. Would the pictorial map go out to Baber Bridge ?But perhaps Jim might like to take up the challenge to provide a photo of the Parish Boundary white marker stone embedded in the grass lawn in front of Osterley House.

Tim Henderson ● 6929d

The catchment area?

Jim Lawes ● 6930d

Thanks 4 your kind words James I will pass them on to the Site Administrator...

Simon Anderson ● 6930d

Mr HughesI would love it if you met me sometime to prove your real!!!

Simon Anderson ● 6930d

Simon,This is great news! Exactly what I had proposed on a thread a while ago (absolutely no bitching from my part!)Best of luck with the new site.James

James de Vivenot ● 6930d

My real name is Jason Stanley, or is it Peter Marles? Anyway, I thought you had gone for good.Careful what you accuse people of, people in glasshouses and all that stuff :-)

William E Hughes ● 6931d

JimIts not my forum mate so cant answer your questions sorry mate but I think your correct its for you to discuss Isleworth etc etc..Mr Hughes are you a REAL person or posting under a false name??

Simon Anderson ● 6931d

Wish you and George well with your new cyberspace project Simon..but a little more clarification would be helpful..to enable me..and perhaps others.. to understand what is happening. You say that it is a fanatastic new Forum for Isleworth residents.  Alone?Perhaps you meant to say it was for Isleworth matters. You will appreciate that the recent restructured Isleworth and Brentford Area Committee begs for conciliation on some matters and not a scattered debate.Recently, I used to log into ""www.isleworthtw7.com""... and entered into the Independent Community Group website. Will this still exist?  I don't seem to have ever successfully logged on to that site to send a message...nor your Ivytag site to even see what was being said by everyone.Some posters were obviously not using their real names on that TW7 site....confusing?..and I was alarmed to see someone posting..using the username "JL"..which some might have suspected was me.  It wasn't!Has the OldIsleworth website lapsed? That used to have a Forum too I recall.So if one wanted to ask questions on historical Isleworth matters..and draw viewers attention to some quirky item from the past...is there a place for it?  Does the website accept pictures?Anyway..I wish you well..and will join in...and look forward  to seeing how it evolves.  I like Goerge's first question about ..that part of Isleworth that is in LBof Richmond.

Jim Lawes ● 6931d

"P.S.Now there is no reason for Brentford users of the TW8 Forum to bitch about Isleworthians taking up space on their precious forum."Very elegantly put. I take it we won't be seeing you here any more.

William E Hughes ● 6931d