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I said I wouldn’t get involved, I would distance myself from the diatribe. But I'm drawn in, like a moth to the light when stuff like this comes up.Mr Cuthbert, while it wasn't this particular forum for the last few years I have been contributing on a regular basis to another few forums. During my working hours! Now I was a busy guy in fact I was Customer Service Director for one BT's biggest competitors and had to protect revenues of £1.6 Billion and make sure that around 75,000 customers were in the main quite happy with the service.I have dealt with earthquakes in Algeria snapping diverse oceanic cables, Indian political unrest affecting call centres and various other bits of STUFF that happens.But you know what, I found the community forums a great escape and a great place to air views and make things happen. That's why I helped George re-build the TW7 forums and pay for it out of my own pocket, these places are great for the community they should be nurtured and if people do contribute to them regardless of their motives, time, colour or creed then all input is in the main good input. It fosters growth of the board and forum which in turn fosters more people getting involved!!! More the merrier I say.Let’s not condone people for taking time out to post messages to community forums. I have to say I'm not seeing a great deal of Community going on here.Simon please don't post a mail supporting this view, it's not in defence of you, just in defence of the Internet and it's ability to span time, borders and protocols and if used properly bring people together.Sorry rant over. And at this juncture possibly time for me to drop my connection to this forum before I do go off on one.But you know from time to time it was rather easy

James Kirkby ● 6886d

Can't condone anybody thinking it's acceptable to resort to verbal abuse. I've not been privy to any of the mails on any of the sites that kicked this off. But I have to question who has the energy to take it all this far. With respect to the call Simon, you should do the followingYou should tell your mobile phone company as soon as you receive a malicious or nuisance call or text from somebody. It doesn’t matter whether you know the caller’s identity or not.Phone the operator and ask for the number of your mobile phone company’s nuisance or malicious calls team. Then tell the team that you have received a malicious or nuisance call  from somebody. Tell the team what the caller said in the call.In some cases, particularly if the call is threatening, your mobile phone company will advise you to call the police. If the caller is making direct threats to you or your family and you believe those threats to be real and immediate, then you must call 999 straight away. However, if you believe that the threats made are not immediate, then you should call your local police station on their normal local telephone number.Anyway Simon not sure the police will want to do much with it. But you should report it to your Mobile operator as matter of course. They will have all the records of the Inbound and of the originating TAD if it's a Land Line. They obviously won’t tell you anything but if it happens again you report it again and they can then report to the  originating provider and the Police. It's very simple the Telecoms ACT forbids anyone to misuse the network for dangerous or threatening behaviour it illegal.

James Kirkby ● 6886d

Sarah Thanks for what you said I really appreciate it.I want Jim and I to meet and sit down so he can give me pointers on how to reply to postings better, as if he can give me ideas to improve myself for the better for IVYTAG then I welcome his views.Jim you don't need Bodyguards mate, I am not a violent person and would never get violent over something like this if I was..its very silly stuff.Jim I want you and I to get on as we both support the ICG and should be on the same side here mate, I Dont hate you mate, I do dislike the fact you keep criticising me on here when if Ive done something wrong please Email me on simonanderson2@blueyonder.co.uk or we can meet 4 Coffee and Talk about it and sort it out like Adults Please?Jim everyone has annoying habits and we are all going to disagree with each other from time to time but cant we be friends, I am a nice guy really mate.I always enjoy your Photos of the area and your comments as Ive learnt alot about the area from you i did not know.Jim i am on my Knees here holding the Keyboard meet up with me for a coffee or a beer ad lets have a chat, get to know each other a bit better you never know you might get to like me..lolSeriously Jim I don't Hate you mate I just feel you are blaming the wrong person regarding what happened on Tw7 and getting drawn in by "Mary Sheerings"Let me Know mate ok...ThanksJamesCan I ask when you have a discussion Forum is it to discuss stuff?If you don't agree with someone do you personally attack that Person and swear at them on line?

Simon Anderson ● 6887d

JimOld boy i was not threating you in that message you read things sooo wrong.I am NOT a violent person and to accuse me of this is very out of order.I was just asking you to stop attacking me and meet me for Coffee (i will even pay) you can tell me where I am going wrong and I will listen and try harder but you keep attacking me on here.You seem to have gotten this horrid opinion about me from others, Please meet me sit down with me for Coffee in Tesco Cafe and I will listen to you and you listen to me and we can sort this out once and for all, and I hope you will walk away with a different opinion of me and we could either be Friends or avoid each other which will be your decision.When you was being attacked on here before the election by made up names I was one of those who stuck up for you and Begged you not to leave the forum and let this horrible people win, now you are siding with those people against me i cant understand why.Yes you have asked me questions and maybe i didn't answer them in the way you wanted me to but i did try to answer them and be honest with you.Jim Ive no problems with you except you listen to others and you go to far in your postings.Jim 1 last time meet me this week for a coffee in Tesco lets sit down and sort this out please.Ive just been threw a long 8wk court case regd my children and Shivon has just got out of hospital after 2 and half Months i don't want no more hassle if you have any good in you please meet me I promise I will sit there and listen to your points its up to you now.Cant say I didn't Try..

Simon Anderson ● 6887d

JimYou call me Childish you need to Grow up and let it go.I have just been subjected to more abuse From George Via private email when all I did was answer his email for a truce which i said it was a GREAT ida now he is making threats to me and bringing others involved.I privately emailed you as there is some sort of problem you ave with me and i was trying to be grown up about this and ask if we could do this privately so everyone on here doesn't have to read it or get involved etc etc but your clearly looking for an Argument.You don't realise Mary is a made up name by someone from a political group the same person who has attacked the ICG and Cllr Andrews who you have defended but when it comes to attacking me you back them up.Jim you obviously ain't man enough to meet me in person to discuss in private and sort this issue you ave with me like men and you will see how cool i am and that i can have a serious friendly conversation.Its obvious this post will be lifted now and placed on Tw7 like all other posts which don't you see a certain person is trying to wind the situation up between us all and you are falling for it.You are attacking me for some postings on Tw7 but supporting George who was the one who attacked me first.I went on Tw7 saw a posting regarding Lights in Blocks on Ivybridge I made a comment saying shouldn't this be discussed on IVYTAG seeing as IVYTAG is the Forum for Ivybridge.He came on and Abused me in his posting and I came back on and said Fair enough discuss it on both but it will confuse people and I thought Tw7 was to discuss Isleworth and IVYTAG to discuss Ivybridge but i except what you all said.Then again i was personally attacked By George.Why is it everything i say or do you bring IVYTAG into it  am just Chairman IVYTAG DOES NOT belong to me.I sent George a private message to sort it out privately and as Adults but he carried on Attacking me on Tw7, so Yes I agree I attacked him back privately but he posted my Email on Tw7 for all to see to turn you all against me.Last Night I emailed him again and said it was all silly we were both stupid and lets put an end to it.This morning he emailed me to say he agreed but I had shown myself up and upset lots of people, I replied back and said I agreed i was stupid and upset some people but so did he now I get attacked again.Its like I said (and others on here have said) if you don't agree with this man he verbally attacks you.I am just sticking up for myself but Ive tried and Tried to sort ALL this out with George and Yourself but you are both hell bent on causing more grief and involving others and you call me Childish.All i can say is I apologise to all Tw8 users reading this but I am being attacked for things Ive not Done and i intend to stick up for myself.Ps Jim George is sitting back loving this why give him the satisfaction??PSS Were you not 1 of those who recomended a isleworth Forum to keep Isleworth and Brentford Seperate..if so why cant i keep IVYTAG and Tw7 seperate??

Simon Anderson ● 6887d

JimThank you for your comments.I don't believe that my previous posting detracts from the validity of much, if not most, of what you have been saying.  Neither does the fact that "Mary" is almost certainly a sockpuppet detract from the fact that she has correctly identified certain weaknesses in the chain.Nevertheless, your case is not in any way enhanced by clutching gratefully at the support which you have received from somebody who almost certainly does not exist.I would agree that these postings are very articulate.  They demonstrate a first-hand knowledge too of issues which currently exist on Ivybridge.  They also happen to coincide extraordinarily with a process which I have recently initiated to bring the residents' movement on Ivybridge together, and does so in a way which could only serve to frustrate that process and cause further division.  This is why I believe we need to separate the very real concerns which you and others have from this subtle attempt (far too subtle for Alan and his immediate colleagues I would suggest, Simon) to undermine the good work which is being undertaken.The need to undermine this work is being taken very seriously indeed.  It has already resulted in hostile and dishonest media attention, questions in parliament and a proposal to call a special meeting to ensure that the Executive Housing portfolio is taken from me.  That failed due to the incompetence of the Labour Group on the council, who would be required to explain why they were prepared to spend thousands of pounds of taxpayers' money reversing a decision which they themselves helped to take.  Hence Plan B - undermine the residents' movement from within.I do not dispute that there have been a host of issues raised which need to be tackled.  I am simply suggesting that in so doing we should not seek allies amongst those who have a wholly different agenda to all of us.

Phil Andrews ● 6887d

SimonThis is your report of a meeting on the Ivybridge Estate..which you posted recently on the TW7 Forum. It's a fine example of the matters Mary was mentioning.How is anyone expected to understand such a badly written piece of literature..especially the people who are affected..and who live on Ivybridge?oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo(Simon's report to TW7 website.""Tonight over 25 residents turned up to NITA's AGM at the Bridgelink Centre led by a resident who has lived on Ivybridge many years.On getting there NITA seemed after all there efforts of Intimidation could only get 1 other resident there who the new V.C of NITA Mr Boucher bullied to join. 9 i cant wait till he goes on the Hounslow Homes board as he is NOT allowed to be a member of a residents group)The 25 residents spokes person stood up to make a speech that hundreds of you have signed so far to support IVYTAG and you have never at anytime voted this political group to represent you.The resident spokesperson was then intimidated by the Tenant Participation Officer who stopped him talking and said if you are going to leave go now which proves who is pulling NITA strings.IVYTAG is mad that a Hounslow Homes official was that rude to a resident and refused to let the residents speak.NITA say on there last letter to you they are there to listen to residents tonight proves they don't want to listen to you.he 25 residents walked out of the meeting, an IVYTAG member told us after the meeting that all positions like Chair, VC etc were voted back on by themselves again..VEery democratic ain't it?After the meeting finished the T.P.O of Hounslow Homes came out and a resident said to him his anger about the way the meeting went and that how cant they vote themselfs back in and we residents don't want this political group representing us..The T.P.O was very rude again to this resident.Tonight only proves that Residents don't want this group as this is the 3rd time in a year they have had an open meeting and residents don't attend.And tonight proves Hounslow Homes are behind this and those residents who wont sign to any group because they fear Hounslow Homes is completely true.But IVYTAG can assure ALL residents we are not going to stop this fight against NITA or Hounslow Homes till you get treated correctly and most importantly fairly this is the year 2006 and this crap needs to stop as Hounslow Homes have no right to force this group down your throat and we promise to keep on the fight on your behalf.We want to thank all those residents who have signed up so far and for those who attended tonight but don't think tonight was not a success and they won as please be assure that what happen tonight is a BIG step forward to getting what we all want on Ivybridge.Why didn't the Ivytag Secretary write the Meeting Report for you..if there was a better chance of it being clearer for all read and understand?""oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Jim Lawes ● 6888d

Jim Lawes is absolutely correct.  Whatever indiscretions may have been committed here in the past please do not judge TW7.COM too harshily.  In a short time the forum has developed well and I'm sure will continue to develop well.  The problems of recent days revolve solely around the personality of one individual, namely Mr. Simon Anderson.Everybody who uses TW8.COM has had the misfortune of having to wade through Simon's reams of almost incomprehensible garbage and endless self-praise.  Members of the Ivytag forum suffer an even worse fate, having to read posts not just from Simon but also from people with names like "Windermere House", "Estate Resident" and "Jason Stanley" who all coincidentally write in an identically torturous form.Simon's most recent ramble followed some polite advice from a new forum member about his spelling and the manner in which he writes.  Rather than heed this friendly advice he has instead "gone off on one", accusing the moderator of TW7.COM of being responsible for the post and DEMANDING that it be deleted.There can be no doubt that Simon has been the driving force behind Ivytag.  His energy is enormous.  The problem is that he is in essence a baby and insists that all the toys remain in his own pram all the time.Ivytag is now in a quandry because with the new leadership on Hounslow Council its many supporters should be able to expect to "come in from the cold" and assume their rightful place at the top table.  But Simon will not entertain this and dissuades others too.  His reason?  Because he doesn't even LIVE on Ivybridge and his concern is that his colleagues will end up with positions of office and he will be left out all on his ownsome.Simon has been tolerated by a lot of people for a long time because of his sad, unenviable personal problems as a result of which he understandably attracts sympathy.  But there is only so long that everybody is going to bite their lip and be hostages to his petulant, child-like tantrums whenever he doesn't get his own way.This makes unpleasant reading but there are things which needed to be said.  Let us hope that he will begin to listen to criticism which is intended to help him rather than slate him, and will mature sufficiently to face the challenges which lie ahead.

Account suspended ● 6888d

GEORGE POSTED ON TUESDAY:PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:53 pm ""Since the Site is now finished there will be no more posts deleted.It will be run on an even playing field as far as possible.There will be very little moderation from now on.So if you can't stand the heat stay out of the Kitchen.""ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooThree days later..a batch of Simon's messages..perhaps deservedly.. got the chop..as the two gentlemen bashed away over whether George was allowed to discuss Ivybridge matters on his own Forum.Simon thought that they should only be discussed on HIS Ivytag Forum!!ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooHow can one participate in a meaningful Isleworth TW7 discussion group with that kind of basis debate going on.Go and have a look for yourself.ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooAs a TW7 poster called Colin said tonight:(before it gets deleted!)""Simon your behaviour this evening has simply illustrated my point""(about rubbish postings) ""I'm sure you are an able chair for Ivytag and I take my hat off to you for the work you have done for the estate, but your posts come across like the whining of a small child, "grassing" your colleague to the teacher because somebody has had the audacity to put something on here which falls short of fawning adulation. Can Ivytag ever be taken seriously as a potential resident association when it has at its head one who writes in mobile text-speak and comes across like you do? You need to be aware of yourself and stick to what you do best. Surely you have somebody there who can do the written stuff without embarrassing Ivytag with the kind of pre-pubescent, sub-literate garbage which you and your "friends" post so relentlessly?_________________Chez Ivybridge""ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooSo: TW7 never stood a chance..but it might do now..possibly.ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Jim Lawes ● 6889d