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Sorry Vanessa, I didn't mean to ignore your concerns.  You should know by now that when say a thing I am sure of my facts and can substantiate them.The assault on my father was reported to the police and a crime number has been issued.  The chief officer at the polling station did see my father visibly shaken and offered him tea and comfort.  She is also aware of the assailant's identity, as he presented his polling card to her immediately after it happened!  I understand that she cannot disclose the voter's identity under the Data Protection Act unless the police intend to make an arrest, and in the absence of any witnesses to the actual incident there is no will on their part to do so.The suggestion that this incident was dreamed up after the election is offensive, and a classic case of Labour judging me by its own standards.  I was telling at a polling station in Hounslow South in the company of Labour's Bob Whatley and a Conservative when I received the 'phone call from our agent informing me of it and I immediately abandoned my post to drive over to St. John's to check that he was okay.  When I returned Bob had been replaced by Laurie Lopes, with whom I also discussed the incident at length.Both Bob and Laurie were genuinely sympathetic and expressed their relief that he wasn't hurt.  I was happy to accept at the time that it had not been a political incident, and that his assailant was simply a freelance lowlife.  It was only some time later that my father informed me that he believed he recognised him to be a Labour man who had verbally abused him in the past.Regarding Labour candidates with criminal convictions, I could offer you as a fine example one Christopher Boucher - candidate for Isleworth ward.  I believe William E Hughes knows this gentleman rather well.  In 2004 our Chris was ordered to pay £3700 court costs and to undertake 200 hours of community service, was placed on a curfew preventing him from leaving his home on Friday and Saturday nights and ordered to wear a tagging device - simply, he tells us, for drink-driving!His then employer, Hounslow Community Transport, stood by him and were repaid by their grateful employee with a £2000 'phone bill after young Chris had repeatedly used the company mobile of this registered charity, in defiance of warnings, to ring dubious premium rate contact lines.  This is the man whom the Labour Party considered suitable to represent the people of Isleworth on the local authority.None of this I would have mentioned had our Chris had the wit to refrain from knocking on doors throughout the ward demanding that residents did not vote for the ICG because it was "run by a well-known criminal" (presumably a reference to my widely publicised conviction as a National Front activist some twenty years ago).  What arrogance is that from a guy who is carrying so much baggage himself?My reference to the criminal histories of the people who provide the Labour Party and its gutter journalist friends with "information" about the ICG can easily be substantiated.Searchlight magazine's Gerry Gable purports to be an "investigative journalist" providing information on the far-right to anti-racist politicians and media people.  If he has any right to use this description of himself then he will know that his remark to the London Evening Standard, viz. "Phil Andrews has never renounced his National Front past" was completely untrue.  So what were his motives for making it?  What is his agenda?When Gable speaks of my "criminality" he does so as an authority on the subject.  In 1964 he was convicted of burglary after breaking into the home of the right-wing historian David Irving whilst posing as a workman (see http://www.answers.com/topic/gerry-gable).One of his accomplices on this mission was Searchlight researcher Manny Carpel.  Many years later, in 1981, Carpel was gaoled after being convicted of torching the business premises of a far-right publisher in Sussex.One of the founders of Searchlight magazine was one Harry Bidney.  In 1977 Bidney was convicted on eight charges of living off the immoral earning of prostitutes.  His friend David Calderhead - a "businessman" who has provided finance to Searchlight - was gaoled for attempting to procure a 16-year-old boy to commit an act of gross indecency with Bidney.These are the people to whom the Labour Party and its madia friends turn for assistance whenever they feel the time has come around again to "expose" (for the umpteenth time) my own transgressions from the dim and distant past.Of course, one might be tempted to argue that most of the illegality indulged in by the people at Searchlight has resulted from their anti-fascist activities and can therefore be justified.  If that is the case, it might be an idea to see how this Labour-supporting organisation treats its "friends".  Here's a few links to be getting on with: http://libcom.org/library/searchlight-for-beginners-larry-o-harahttp://website.lineone.net/~grandlaf/Afa.htmhttp://www.searchlight.org.uk/o-hara/index.htmlA cursory visit to Google will reveal many more.This, then, is some of the information which I was referring to and there is much, much more of it.  Vanessa, you have suggested that I do something about it?  Like what?The Standards Board have no brief to investigate failed candidates, nor dodgy "investigative journalists" with a penchant for misrepresenting anti-racists as racists for their own political ends.  Most of the offences referred to have already resulted in convictions, so it is a little late in the day to ask me to report them to the police.Neither is there anything unlawful about any Labour councillor or former Labour Executive member having served a prison sentence.  We all make mistakes.  And I don't highlight those of others unless they are stupid enough to try to make an issue out of mine.

Phil Andrews ● 6901d

Ina welcome to the forumI would like to put this on record I am totally non political I live in Isleworth and have for 18 years I am sick and tired  of these idiots ie the so called labs and pseudo posters  all they do is try to sling mud that doesnt stick and I must say it is getting very boring so messrs keen and your cronies well carry on are we botherd NOTNOW LISTEN FORUMITES I SUGGEST THAT ALL OF US exept the idiots SHOULD JUST IGNORE THEIR STUPIDENESS AS YOU WOULD A STUPID CHILD WITH BEHAVIOURAL PROBLEMS as thats all they are but this might be a tad harsh on the children as they have an excuse ie their age so whats yours you imbeciles ?Your rants ie racist nf are really boring if anything i would say that you lot are the vilest racists. I have experienced this from your cronies at first hand yep vanessa and her two cronies If your lot have a brain cell between the lot of you you might remember a visit you paid to my family several years ago the teribble three were rude vile  and their conduct was unbecoming of people in a position such as theirsAs to mr Andrews well He was elected by the community. I will say that I have Known him for several years and can say that not only is he one of the most decent human beings i have had the priviledge to know he is also absoloutly not racict in any way at all can this be said of his critics I think notHe works cosely with the community and always listens which is a damn sight more than the rest of the so called labs and associated BIGOTSWell thats all for now mr hughes so lets see you pathetic response to this and what about your real details mine are plain to see here on this forum why arent yours ? Methinks you are so spinless that you will not stand and be counted but only to be expected from a moron such as yourself

Graeme Perkins ● 6903d

Thanks very much for your kind words Ina, and I hope you are all well.Without wishing this to sound like an unlikely attempt at heroism, I really couldn't care less about this recent political campaign from a personal point of view.  I got used to it a long time ago and it honestly is like water off the proverbial duck's back.  Better their vitriol is aimed at somebody who can take it than someone who would be upset by it.  At least it is a step up from assaulting old men.This evening I went to my children's school fair.  I am not exaggerating when I say it took me nearly twenty minutes to walk half way across the school field to relieve Caroline at the stall which she was running.  People who have barely acknowledged me in the past were stopping me with their messages of goodwill and expressing their contempt for Mrs. Keen and elements of the press.  These reptilian characters sure do know how to make friends and influence people, don't they?I am now looking forward to the "special meeting" which has been threatened but which, as far as I am aware, hasn't yet been called.  I'm looking forward to Labour's explanation as to why they supported my election to the Executive on May 23rd and immediately afterwards considered it an emergency of such proportions that thousands of pounds of taxpayers money should be spent trying to reverse it.I will be seeking their reassurance that no Labour candidate at the recent local elections themselves had any criminal convictions.  I will be asking for their word that no councillor who has sat on the Labour benches during recent years has himself served a prison sentence.I will be looking at some of the people who provided the Labour Group and elements of the media with "information" and examining the track records of some of those people, which includes convictions for burglary and child prostitution as well as a penchant for collecting information on fellow "anti-racists" and passing it on to the security services.And then I will be looking at their own motives, and will maybe even give a few examples of why it is that I think they have had such a dramatic change of heart since the Borough Council AGM.So come on guys, I've even given you a sneak preview of my speech.  If you really do believe that I am unfit to be on the Executive, you have a moral duty to proceed with your special meeting without a moment to lose.And we all know what a morally upstanding bunch you are.To be continued...

Phil Andrews ● 6903d

JimYou should never underestimate the propensity of people to believe what they want to believe - just look at some of the bilge which appears regularly from certain quarters about the ICG.  Although much of this is for propaganda use, one must accept that in some cases there will be an element of sincere belief behind it.One of the biggest problems faced by the far-right is that people can point to one very real historical example of a political system which began with a racial minority being blamed for all the world's ills, and in the space of twelve years trod a grotesque path to attempted genocide.  Of course a society based on racist values need not necessarily lead to mass murder, but it can easily do so as people who would ordinarily be normal and decent become immunised to the misery which the implementation of those values inevitably causes.  Some ask how any reasonable person could join and retain membership of an organisation like the National Front.  One could just as easily ask how millions of reasonable people could support a regime which systematically persecuted Jews, ransacked their homes and businesses and eventually rounded them up and shipped them off to camps.  By stages, and in the absence of other ideas, it is sometimes easier than you might imagine for the unjustifiable to become justified.The far-right tries to overcome the problem caused by this identity with Nazi genocide by denying that that genocide occurred.  It uses pseudo-science to "demonstrate" that there was no systematic program of extermination, and that those who did die in the camps were victims of typhus and other diseases which were caused or at least exacerbated by Allied bombing of the supply lines.A handful of the main proponents of these ideas boast academic qualifications which they peddle in order to give an air of authenticity to their "research".  The leading British World War Two historian David Irving, by his own admission a far-rightist, did himself for a time argue the "revisionist" case (i.e. Holocaust-denial) but now I believe accepts that the Holocaust was indeed a fact (ironically from an Austrian gaol where he is serving a prison sentence for the views which he once expressed). The moot question is this - is somebody who genuinely believes this nonsense to be fact evil, or simply ignorant?  I would contend that it cannot be evil to sincerely hold a view, no matter how absurd it is.Part of the reason why "revisionist" propaganda continues to reach an audience is because those who should know better rarely challenge it.  When we say it is obvious that the Holocaust happened and don't bother to point out why, we give ammunition to those who say that we have no real answer to their claims.  And part of the reason that politicians and other members of the establishment do this, in my opinion, is because they benefit politically from the continued existence of a small, controlled but vociferous far-right presence.I have nothing but loathing for politicians and media types who condemn people to remain with these organisations when they could easily be educated as to the folly of their ways.  I want to close these groups down by reaching out to the misguided majority which makes up their core support and by demonstrating to them that the great conspiracy which they dedicate their lives to fighting simply isn't there.You have seen for yourself the kind of vitriol which I attract from certain elements for so doing.  Ask yourself why.

Phil Andrews ● 6905d

Returning to the original posting...Mrs Keen's utterings in the House of Commons were..in my view totally disgraceful.She occasionally states that she has dealings with the local Police..at top level..and yet she hadn't realised that Cllr Phil has received Police blessing."His past is irrelevent" it was stated.There is no way the bright talented professional Conservative Councillors would have had anything to do with Phil if he was not a suitable person to do business with.But many of us are not surprised about Mrs Keen's activities...or those of her supporters. "Start rubbishing the Independent Community Group lads..and use any tactic"She has successfully escalated the Campaign by local Labour activists who perhaps cannot cope with being losers.The local Labour Party may be blushing at having lost control of the Council..and now fear any revelation about their mismanagement of our Finances at the Civic Centre.Just hear what Cllr Gerald McGregor said at the first Borough Council meeting (watch the webcam recording!). He said that his initial examination of the Council Finances indicated that many of the previous Labour Councillors hadn't the faintest idea about money management, budgets and financial control..and their performances were a ..perhaps shambles.I know its tiring reading all this ..but there are a lot more revelations to come..I'm sure. Labour have had it locally so their best bet is to kick out..even if assault is caused.William:We would like to know too..who these "activists" are who  causing all the damage. Is it those four thug looking blokes who accompanied Mrs Keen..as bodyguards.. into the Civic Centre on General Election night? That was the night when Mr Alan Keen promised to explain his pay and allowances query.

Jim Lawes ● 6906d

William:Could you be clear please as to which of the several postings I made on the Chiswick Forum..you are referring too.Was it Frankie's support for Mrs Keen based on seemingly poor informatiom...his/her postings seemed like a planned rescue mission for the MP. There's nothing wrong with trying to rescue the MP on the Forum's but only if the information is wholesome.Or was it on another subject.I the meantime, what do you think of the news about a veteran Community supporter being "attacked" at 7am on Polling Day?Regarding Mrs Keen ""Night Flight's"" statement/report..if only she had explained that...""I know that night flights are a pain...but I am fighting to stop the number being increased from 5800 per annum"" ..well that will have been an explanation of sorts to the largely poorly informed/knowledgeable constituency (Only 5% of people seem to know about the actual night flight figures..if that). Instead, it has just been the words "victory,victory".And as for Mrs Keen mentioning Cllr Andrews in that manner in the House of Commons!!!The fact is that Mrs Keen..and I've never met her...is disliked by so many civic people. If I go to a Police Consultative Group meetings..where she fails to attend..people say to me that they don't want her too either. Does she keep in touch with non- Labour Councillors?You say""I popped over to the Chiswick forum to see if any pollution had leaked over. Sure enough I see James Lawes Esq employing standard ICG smear tactics against a poster who had dared support Mrs Keen - very shabby and very boring""My comments are not pollution..and my tactics have nothing to do with the ICG..they are just anti "local Labour".And there are very good reasons for that too.

Jim Lawes ● 6906d

""Mr Lawes:You are a very loyal ICG supporter and miss no opportunities to attack the Labour Party, even to the extent of your views on Asian councillors quite rightly being described as "odious" by the good people of Chiswick""William:You will be sadden to hear that there were no boos or hisses for Mr Lawes tonight when he ventured into the heartland of Chiswick..indeed quite the opposite I say blushingly.My speech about Asian Business Practices ..based on much experience..will have to be held on hold until another opportunity arrives.I have however worked out your strategy. I guess that you work for the heartland of the local Labour Party..possibly not many armslengths from Mrs Keen and it is your job to try and create and throw false muck so that it distracts from any problem you have... to protect your colleagues' current performances.You were doing this under a different name many years ago on the Chiswick Forum..and also on the subject of Phil Andrews.So on this occasion you are trying to link one of my expertises (the study of Asian Business Practices)..with Phil Andrews...you thinking that I am a member of his organisation.  Well you're wrong to make that connection..and your slimy tactics are to be condemed.  You are looking at ways..of making connections...to try to rescue your boss. Well bad luck.You've failed and disgraced yourself again.When I joined these Forums 2 years ago and a bit..I knew hardly anything about Hounslow politics and all the various  Committees and parties and knew very little of the organisations and participants.  I was eager to learn to find out what went on in Hounslow.The Conservatives never posted on this website..nor really did the LibDems.  But yes the local Labour Party (alan Sherrins mainly)(and brentford hot heads) were in battle with a group called the ICG.  Having studied the local scene,read all the local messages and propaganda..I came to the conclusion that what Hounslow needed was an independent group who would chisel a hole in the Council to find out what was really going on.Cllr Phil Andrews was the only person who would clearly explain things..and which I understood. I found Labour Party responses of very poor quality. Even Mrs Keen's website was a shambles with badly written and incorrect information.Yes I certainly have met Phil Andrews on several happy occasions and whilst maybe not knowing what his POLITICS were..I certainly supported his Group's endeavour to break the stronghold of a perhaps corrupt Labour Council or certainly the Isleworth patch.. Just wait till the information is unravelled!! Although I was bought up in a Labour household..and was an admirer of many Labour Politicians..(but not Union Leaders) it was the farce of old Labour tactics in places like Doncaster that caused my suspicions.Locally,the HM Magazine issue, as insignificant as it may have appeared to you, for me was confirmation that the local Labour Campaign Managers were a bunch of swindlers..and that they would go to all kind of lengths to rubbish inquisitors. But please William carry on posting in your now well-know style. It give me an opportunity to reply. You perhaps thought I would cringe at your comments and hide. It hasn't worked.Mrs Keen's constituency of Isleworth, Brentford and Chiswickcovers 7 wards..with three councillors in each.  That's 21 Councillors within Mrs Keen's area.  Isn't is sad that only two of the 21 are Labour. That's staggering.  A reflection indeed of something happening locally..I wonder what?

Jim Lawes ● 6911d

Thanks for that Jim.When the article was read out to me this morning my feeling was that the headline was unfortunate but that the article itself was decent.A headline, as any reporter knows, sets the tone for the article to follow.  It it is what gives the first and leaves the last impression.  Even with the same article attached to it "Police Chief Defends New Executive Member", for example, would have given the same article an entirely different meaning.However, having re-read the piece I have to confess to some disappointment with aspects of Sunita's report itself.  I can see that some attempt has been made at even-handedness, but trying to strike a fair balance between right and wrong inevitably results in a story which is only half right.One wonders just how many times a story has to "emerge" before it becomes common currency.  She could just as well, of course, have said that it had "emerged" that I had once been a member of the National Front but presumably didn't do so as this fact was reported in the same paper last week.  The Chronicle has reported my conviction of twenty years ago many times.  Suggesting that the news has "emerged" this week is not only dishonest, but also heaps ridicule upon the newspaper in the eyes of the many regular readers who will be aware of the true facts. It may well be that Sunita, who is relatively new to the newspaper, was unaware that this story had been covered before, but the editor has no excuse for not enlightening her.I will be writing to the Chronicle this week to explain the above, and the preparedness of the editor to allow my side of the story to be told will give me some indication as to whether this is a newspaper which I will be able to trust in my future work.

Phil Andrews ● 6911d