Ok, to start with lets all take a deep cleansing breath... Are you sitting comfortably? Good, then I'll begin.."it’s fine to wish someone were “dead soon” but beyond the pale to describe the antisocial behaviour of a local religious/community centre."No it's not ok to wish someone were dead soon, and I think David has cut off his nose to spite his face with that one really because personally I have little interest in anything else someone may have to say if that's how he chooses to conduct himself in an argument/debate/whatever you'll call it, which is a pity, and I'm sure I'm not alone.However it's also definately not ok to describe someones behaviour as 'antisocial' (and actually I never saw Jim use that word, so that's an opinion of yours?) when all they're doing is behaving in a way that adheres to their culture and religious beliefs. Burkas are black, and most muslim women wear burkas (even modern muslims who are a little more lax with the traditional requirements and tend to just wear a hijab will still wear a full burka for evening prayer, well at least the ones I know do.)They couldn't help it if it was raining, just like Jim couldn't either. He was driving carefully in the rain and nobody got hurt, what's the problem? If there are so many people attending prayer in that particular building that they are spilling out into the streets in a manner that's dangerous then that says to me that perhaps they need some bigger/better facilities? Like.. Say.. An extension? (how would this have affected the residents exactly?)I can understand that the rubbish and cars would be a problem but did anyone talk to the imam about it?As for "engulfing the dainty Englishness of the area", as you said, this is no longer the dynamic of London, we are fortunate to be a diverse, vibrant, multiracial city, benefiting from a wealth of culture, food, language and knowledge from all over the world. It's something we should be very proud of.“What, you mean I smear people just by quoting back at them the things they say? In that case, surely they have smeared themselves.”You don't just quote back things people say though Robin, you get really overdefensive and to be honest quite melodramatic as soon as someone says something you don't like. It's like I said to you before, it's a huge character flaw because people become completely desensitised to you. It makes you quite a comical figure, so at your own disservice when you do say anything that would ordinarily hold weight people automatically dismiss it because they're so used to listening to the petty cheap shots and the ranting. It's a shame, because sometimes you make good points, you're just not very good at making them!Oh the BNP, where on earth do I start? for your little list of things the BNP 'didn't do' I could give you a list of absolutely disgusting things they have said and done (I'll post it if you like, but only at request because this post is getting mammoth enough already). Somebody (David I think) mentioned Redwatch, it's very real and completely vile. Last time I checked I was on it, so are many many friends of mine. Do you know what it's like to have your picture up on a website knowing that it's only there so people can pick you out with the intention of doing you harm? I live alone with my 2 year old daughter and the idea of it sometimes keeps me awake at night."Likewise, it wasn’t the BNP who deliberately distorted sound intelligence that helped spin Britain into a war that precipitated the violent deaths of thousands of brown-skinned people"The BNP DO deliberately distort sound intelligence, with the purpose of fearmongering and trying to incite racial hatred and sugar-coat policies the Nazis used (I believe some are almost verbatum). The only difference is the war they're after will be a war at home.This thread is rapidly decending into a very ugly train wreck, I think perhaps it would be best to abandon it.
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