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I am sorry, but when I asked for a Labour view I had really hoped for a sensible Labour view, not yet another illiterate outspewing of meaningless drivel from ex-Councillor Hughes.This morning's exchange between him and Councillor Andrew Dakers has been useful because it will enable people, in the light of Corinna's comments about the Liberal Democrats allegedly not being an effective opposition, to compare the two.  I would ask neutral parties to read and re-read the postings above and consider which of the two they would have more confidence in to fight their corner if they had an issue with the present council.Unlike Councillor Dakers I am a member of the administration, but nevertheless I am obliged to say that as somebody who has been on the council for only nine months and who is, in political terms, still very much a youngster he has been quite exceptional.  I only wish that at his age I had possessed half the political maturity and acumen which he repeatedly demonstrates.This first motion before Borough Council for me illustrated three things.  Firstly, it laid out his commitment and that of his Group to the environmental agenda, a commitment he has sustained throughout.  I can tell you that his views, and knowledge, of enivronmental issues is taken very seriously indeed by the new administration and I hear what he is saying about this being a major consideration when his party comes to decide how to vote in the budget debate on March 6th.Secondly, it demonstrated that in spite of being few in number, the Liberal Democrats intend to play an active role in shaping the policies and strategies of the local authority and that he has the confidence and ability to lead that process.Lastly, it did betray in small measure his inexperience of council procedure.  That he was man enough to accept this during the course of the debate and to advise his Group to vote accordingly shows the integrity of the Liberal Democrats as a responsible opposition party, just as Dave's wild rantings on the matter accordingly reveal the lack of integrity and shallow opportunism of the party which he represents, and give an indication of why his party locally commands such little respect these days. Anybody who has witnessed a debate at Borough Council since the elections of May 2006 would acknowledge that the two minority opposition Groups - the Liberal Democrats and the Hounslow Independent Alliance - punch considerably above their weight while the Labour "opposition" has in reality been reduced to a shambles.  Councillor Ruth Cadbury does most of the talking on her Group's behalf whilst numbered amongst her colleagues are councillors who cannot tell the difference between "twenty votes for" and "twenty-four votes", who cannot understand how a service can be provided for sixteen hours per day when employees only work for eight, and who think the council runs an escort service.  It is little wonder that they believe that Member Training is a frontline service!I don't always agree with Councillor Dakers and we frequently find ourselves on opposite sides of the divide when a vote is taken at Borough Council, but I can say that as an administration we take him and his Group, as well as the HRA, a darned sight more seriously than we do the sorry rabble which is the surviving rump of what was the old administration.I would refer anybody who wonders why to the dialogue above between Councillor Dakers and Dave Hughes.  I dare say that any continuation of said debate will serve to emphasise my point.

Phil Andrews ● 6679d

"I havent seen much opposition coming from the Lib dems."I take it that you have seen "some" opposition from us then! As a small council group - despite the fact that we have the fastest growing share of the vote in Hounslow - we have to focus our energies.  After the May election we decided our top two priorities, driven by our manifesto, were environmental sustainability and shaping more honest and open structures in Hounslow.  I believe our constructive opposition on these issues is already yielding results.  The adminstration's environmental policies in the Hounslow Plan and draft Community Plan have clearly been influenced by the debate we brought to full council last June and I am regularly getting conditions added to planning applications to ensure that construction in the borough is more environmentally sustainable (this is something that Labour members fail to do, despite the fact that - to your credit - you introduced the checklist!).  Of course the real test of the administration's commitment to the growing threat of climate change will be investment to back up the fine words - and our support for the final 07/08 budget will hang on this.With respect to increasing the honesty and openness of council structures a starting point would be improvements to the constitution.  For example, it is appalling that council representatives on outside bodies do not report back on their work even once a year! Frustratingly turnout of some party representatives is poor at the Constitution Review group meetings, but hopefully the work will yield a discussion paper in the next month or so.As I said at the council meeting in late January I think the cut in Community Teachers is extremely unfortunate, but so would be a cut in so many other areas of council services, libraries spending for example, or further increases in council tax.  Given that there were no costings attached to the Labour group proposal at full council to retain Community Teachers I assume Labour would support further growth in the unreformed council tax to support this and other service areas you wanted to protect?"(yet- I await with baited breath...as Andrew Dakers seems more intent on progressing his political career towards Westminster- some hope!)"Yes - some do hope! - and the current local trends in vote share make Brentford & Isleworth an increasingly winnable seat for the Lib Dems.  As it happens I am really enjoying working at a community level right now and collaborating in the many areas where interests are shared with councillors of other parties.  Andrew

Andrew Dakers ● 6679d

CorinnaI stand corrected, I had thought you were referring to the Civic Centre demo - sorry.I'm slightly unnerved though by the thought of you photographing people who take a leaflet from you at a school gate.  Has New Labour control-freakery led us to this?  Spooky.You don't need to call me Mr. Andrews.  You have always called me Phil.  If you can no longer bring yourself to do this, feel free to call me Councillor Andrews, or Councillor P. Andrews if you wish to differentiate between myself and my wife Councillor C. Andrews, who with your good memory you may recall was elected in Syon last year with a huge majority.I'm sorry you feel that the Lib Dems have been ineffectual.  Don't you think they might have carried more clout had you made an effort to involve them, and/or us, and/or the HRA in a non-Conservative coalition administration?  As I recollect the Labour Party would not condescend to work with anybody else and declared itself immediately to be "going into opposition", handing power by default to a coalition which, whoever it included, would have to have been led by the Conservatives.Do you not agree that this is very strange behaviour for a party which professes to be concerned for the welfare of teachers and other employees under such an administration?Some would consider that you perceived an opportunity to undermine your various opponents by associating us together with a view to improving your prospects for the 2010 election, and saw this as a more important consideration than addressing the alleged threat to the vulnerable presented by a Tory-led administration.Would a charge of Labour putting its own political interests ahead of what it perceived to be the public interest be unreasonable under the circumstances?I'd be fascinated to hear a Labour view on this.

Phil Andrews ● 6679d

Whatever you might try to say about Labour lying I have a name and I am not known for lying and as I was outside Ivybridge at the time I certainly saw you approach Valerie as she says and Sue - so I think an apology  and retraction is in order!!Simon -  I wonder if you saw the camera I had in my hand?Mr Andrews, we are not discussing the demo (which was Monday) I am  sure that not everyone who was there and unfortunately I was not there- could name everyone who was and I actually dont know if any leaflets were given out there.......we are discussing the leaflet distribution outside Ivybridge School on Friday after school and discussions we had with parents and carers regarding the shameful front line cuts that have been imposed by the Current Council Administration- The fact that a Community Teacher has been cut from Ivybridge School not being defended by the ICommunityG cllrs who claim to be for the Community!!Strange as it may seem I have a good memory for faces so I do recognise most of the people I speak to(not necessarily by name) or who approached us as opposed to those who we approached and Simon went out of his way to collect a leaflet from Valerie altho if he had waited a few seconds more I would have offered him a leaflet! I certainly treated all parents, grandparents and carers in the same way. Cordial and polite.Why the concern about any political party being involved?The people opposing the Community Teacher cuts include people involved in party politics and many who are not...Teachers, Headteachers,Parents and children and also community activists.Who is going to oppose the new Administration (Tory dominated) since the Community Group have rolled over for a slice of power and I havent seen much opposition coming from the Lib dems. (yet- I await with baited breath...as Andrew Dakers seems more intent on progressing his political career towards Westminster- some hope!)

Corinna Smart ● 6679d

It is always sad to observe when people who gain office in local politics allow arrogance to take priority over good governance.How else do we explain Phil's contempt for local residents who lobbied the meeting last Monday discussed above in earlier posts? Kim Osborne, who has a letter printed in this week's Chronicle opposing the cuts in community teachers, is a parent at Beavers School who misguidedly believed that attempting to attend the "public" consultation on the council's budget might enable her to argue that this cut was inappropriate because of the effect on her local community. To my knowledge she has no connection with Labour or any other party.For her efforts she has been categorised as a Labour activist trying to hijack the meeting by Phil.I have electronic evidence of the e-mail discussion I had with Kim when she contacted me prior to the meeting seeking support if anyone wants to doubts this post. I pointed out that the decision to cut the teachers had already been taken and that the public consultation was taking place after the event and was therefore a sham. Nevertheless, she was determined to go ahead and make her views known.The cuts at Ivybridge and elsewhere are AVOIDABLE. If the ICG is still the Independent Community Group and not a born-again Conservative Group they will share my belief that the COMMUNITY should come first. This front line service can be saved if local Isleworth councillors want to make the COMMUNITY a priority. I invite Phil to contact me to discuss alternative budget options to save these vital community services. Let's hope that when you get back from Portugal it is the leader of the ICG, NOT THE EGO, that has landed!

John Connelly ● 6680d

VanessaIt had been my hope and intention that I would get away with my little jaunt to Hounslow in the middle of my holiday, but it would seem that you have me sussed and I'll just have to put my hands up.  It's a fair cop, guv!There I was, sitting miserably with my family by the open-air pool being force-fed with chicken piri-piri and sangria, when I had an idea.  I know, I thought.  Why don't I give up a day's holiday, which I have spent good money to pay for, to fly 1600 miles to Hounslow and back, at no gain to myself, so that I can present a report to a Borough Council meeting?  The fact that it was freezing and pouring with rain when I got there was just an unplanned-for bonus.Who has paid for this little perk of office, you ask?  Well so far I have, but it may well be that I will indeed be claiming it from the same kitty which was used under your administration to subsidise "town twinning" jaunts so that councillors and armies of hangers-on could visit their relatives on the other side of the world and play rounds of golf.The same poor people, ultimately, who foot the bill for your friend and our alleged Member of Parliament to occupy a second home in Covent Garden because she couldn't be arsed to travel nine miles to work in the morning.The only consolation they will have is that those of them who are tenants and leaseholders will, as a result of my intervention, not have to pay the 65% increase in District Heating Charges which your New Labour chums and the former management at Hounslow Homes wanted to foist on them before the new administration put its foot down and refused to allow them to pick up the tab for what was in effect an election stunt back in February 2006.When it comes to hypocrisy and contempt Vanessa, I would have to advise you very strongly indeed not to go there.

Phil Andrews ● 6683d

LeoYou'll notice that Alan has ignored my original question, which to be fair under the circumstances was the most honest and decent thing he could have done.New Labour, particularly in a local context, is not about socialism or any kind of ideology.  It is about control, control, control.  It is about micro-managing every field of activity within the community and ensuring that nobody other than its own people, or at best others whom they are comfortable they can manipulate, can occupy any position of influence nor plan any kind of meaningful role in community life.The motivation would appear to be organisational rather than political.  I have likened it in the past to a Masonic sect without the good causes.  Put another way, New Labour has retained the worsts aspects of socialism (totalitarianism) and rejected the best (equality and social justice).This is evidenced at the council chamber.  On the local authority we have five political groups, two of which are in coalition on the Executive but two more co-operate when they feel they should, and provide helpful criticism and sometimes legitimate oppostion when they consider it appropriate.The Labour Group, on the other hand, stands visibly aloof.  Consequently when its numbers were reduced by the electorate to a minority there was no question of it ever being able to enter into a coalition with anybody else, indeed consoling itself with its belief in its own innate superiority and the general unworthiness of the electorate as a consequence of its failure to recognise New Labour's intrinsic greatness it didn't even try.Instead New Labour's strategy has been to do what it does best, trying to undermine the administration from behind the scenes and to sabotage any progress by underhandedness and subterfuge.  It is this strategy which I have found myself ranged against within my Housing portfolio as I have worked to democratise the residents' movement and to empower our tenants by dismantling the self-serving, crony-based structures erected by Labour during its 35 years of power.  Certain of the worst culprits who talked a good fight in the past have abandoned the fight and deserted the front.I do hope you are right about Ann Keen.  The smugness which she exuded at the election count in 2005, when she and her followers scoffed and laughed in the faces of those who tried to question her on the matter of her unjustifiable expense claims typifies in my view the contempt in which these people hold the hoi polloi, the ordinary voters whom they consider to be their lessers.It is beyond belief that fifteen or twenty of these people had the front on Monday to gather on the steps of the Civic Centre in a demonstration which pretended to be a spontaneous expression of public protest against the new administration, and to pose as champions of the people, whom in reality they despise.  The whiff of hypocrisy could be detected upwind from 800 miles away in Portugal.

Phil Andrews ● 6683d