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IsleworthTW7 website

Entertainment guaranteed on this website if you follow the antics of George, Simon, the Fox and Phil! Biggest problem is making sense of the posts that are referred to that appear to be deleted. What's it all about?

John Connelly ● 6694d74 Comments

Greetings, Ann - lovely day too!... I just wish they would all write under their own names - the turning Brentford around thread is one example - took me ages to get to grips with posting postings in the right place but these 'newbie’s' are super dooper at it straight away.  The subject is valid and important but what deters somebody from putting their signature to a posting?  Crumbs!

Sarah Felstead ● 6686d

Oh dear! Oh dear!I really am getting too old for this kind of thing...A treble vodka, please!  No ice...there's enough on this thread to keep the vodka chilled.

Ann S. Allridge ● 6686d

JimYou started the Nonsence and now you have been asked your views on another person doing things you have a go at me for still now you wont answer!!So its just me you got it in for then proves my point doesn't it.BTW i was asked several times Jayne to take over TW7 but i reclined to do it, yes i have been banned from it just for sticking up for myself and i am a resident of TW7 but it doesnt bother me as i cant get blammed for stuff on that site no more can I?

Simon Anderson ● 6686d

SA:I do not wish to reply to you or get engaged in any nonesence exchange of messages with you. I wish to avoid having my cyberspace temperature inflamed, so that I get accused of bullying and then get my membership of these Forums curtailed.Thank you

Jim Lawes ● 6686d

The posting was made by a "Jayne Trotman" who still has a posting on here under her name.The 2nd posting which was made by her was rejected by the moderators because they asked her (as i emailled her) to comfirm her email and Postcode which she did but they have still refussed to allow her to post which to me is un fair and suspicious.I see Jim you havent said anything about your best mate and posting under a false name on here yesterday which all kept getting removed...i do it over a year ago and you still telling me off for it but you dont say nothing about this person doing it how fair is that???

Simon Anderson ● 6686d

Sarah..morning to you.Apologies for the delay in replying..but I have been so busy on other matters..and it was necessary for me also to give this Topic a rest from my head...and deal with it when deadlines on other matters were over..and when I'd caught up on my sleep.I've looked at the various messages this morning.the "chopped" ones etc and the e-mail you sent me and I realise what has happened.When the following message appeared on the Forum at 12.20pmwhilst I was on line..its sender tag  "posted by verification required"  took me by surprise.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"""JimYou are not trying to sort out a cyber problem you are fuelling it.As I stated previously Simon did wrong over a year but you seem to enjoy dredging it up. The person you state........ etc etc etc """xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI was puzzled..wondering who might have sent it to the Forum. When a short time later I received the same message direct from your goodself..I just assumed you were the unidentified poster ..just giving me a copy!In fact, of course, you were kindly sending me a copy for information, of another persons work...before it was erased by the Moderators and not seen any more.So my apologies. Rushing around the Forums and screens one can certainly make mistakes and cause upsets.  I'll have to read corespondence a bit more carefully.See you in St Petersburg!

Jim Lawes ● 6686d

Actually, James ... don't bother!:-)

Sarah Felstead ● 6687d

I see George is posting again on here under Account suspended wheres the people who critized me for doing this?

Simon Anderson ● 6687d

PhilI Believe the meeting in question was a Residents association Meeting Held at the Bridgelink some years ago when I and the others sat on it.The dispute was between 3 Members 2 guys and the Elderly Member who is no longer with us it was over a remark made by another member and the Lady got blamed for saying it.Afterwards the 2 men droped it and 1 off them offered her around his for Tea and Bisquits anytime.The only meetings ive been to that George was at was a scrunity meeting when he walked out after comments were made by the Chair of Hounslow homes Board and a meeting of scrunity in the chambers regarding the 2 groups on ivybridge his comments came from him personally and had nothing to do with you mate..

Simon Anderson ● 6687d

SimonIt seldom pays to try to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person and this is a classic case in point.I have served for nearly nine years on the local authority now and I cannot recall any elected member ever requiring the services of a "bouncer" at a meeting of the council.  If I had, then with due respect to George I probably would have availed myself of somebody a little younger and (how to put this delicately?) a touch more athletic. I honestly haven't the foggiest what David is going on about but clearly there is something taking form in his muddled mind and hopefully within half a dozen or so postings it will begin to make some kind of sense to somebody or other.Whereabouts at this meeting was he sitting, incidentally.

Phil Andrews ● 6687d

Daveas i recall Cllr Andrews wasnt at the Meeting or knew nothing about it and it wasnt nothing to do with him.Also as to the Heckling at the Civic Not to do with him either i can promise you that mate, if Cllr Andrews was putting up people to come up to heckle why have i never done that?I see on tw7 that The moderator is stating he and the other person had left the room when she fell and it was in the corridor..as i recall as i was there it was a meeting of the R.A and there was some legal thing going on between the 2 people and the lady, it was discussed at the meeting and she got upset and went to get up out of her chair and collapsed in front of us all where the other guy went over and helped her up and appologised and said lets call it a truce.It didnt happen in the Corrider and the 2 people were deffinatly there.

Simon Anderson ● 6687d

Now who was that ahhhhhh yes it was Phils Election agent yes the one that I am sure was Phillises bouncer at a number of council meeting and the one who was heard cursing other Cllr's and heckling, nice people!!!!!

Dave Hughes ● 6687d

DavidAs far as I know Cllr Andrews didnt do that..if your talking about when The Lady in question fell out of her chair and collapsed then 2 things Cllr Andrews wasnt there or had anything to do with it.It was to do with the Moderator of Tw7 and someone else

Simon Anderson ● 6687d

Oh no, he's back again!

Phil Andrews ● 6687d

Came on here over 2yrs ago and personally attacked an elderly lady who just passed away Was that the same lady that Cllr andrew's goons kick over in her wheelchair because she did not agree with them,Simon

Dave Hughes ● 6687d

Jim?Sarah;-)

Sarah Felstead ● 6687d

Mmmm...possibly I made a mistake drawing attention to it.

Phil Andrews ● 6688d

I copied the posting also and placed it below.I also sent a email to the lady who posted it Jane or jayne she has told me she was removed from the site for no reason.I find this terrible how the admin can bar someone just for posting nice comments regarding me...JimYou are not trying to sort out a cyber problem you are fuelling it.As I stated previously Simon did wrong over a year but you seem to enjoy dredging itup. The person you state as a friend and has respect for George the Moderator ofTw7, (which I never go on as its a disgusting site with an equally vile man runningit) has attacked loads of people here and on Tw7 but you say nothing about that.Wasnt it you that said when TW7 was lauched that people should register under theirREAL name? Trail through the Memberlist on Tw7 and see how many false names onthere, however you only want to single out Simon? As to Simon being banned from Tw7 and taken out of the candidates for running it:Firstly from what I can see all simon has done is stick up for himself when 2 people(The Fox and the moderator himself) attacked him. May I add you never attacked them?Doesnt Simon live in Isleworth? Doesnt that give him a right to be able to use theWebsite set up for residents of Tw7?Maybe Simon has been approched to run it in the past and declined for whateverreason, whos to say he hasnt? Have you asked him?In my opinion the site should be handed over to the same people who run this one. Idont agree George should be allowed to come back on here when all he does is attackpeople and use foul laugage.Finally if you are going to have a go at Simon for doing wrong, then be fair haveand a go at others for doing the very same. Please dont be a hypocrite or singlepeople out.

Simon Anderson ● 6688d

.. hang on Jim, I sent you a copy of the posting via personal e-mail because it was obvious it was going to be removed - I can't see how you might think anyone from the Vyborg thread would have posted it!  How on earth did you make that link?

Sarah Felstead ● 6688d

No, not The Fox Phil.Someone posted from Vyborg under the name  "to be registered" or something.  They made perhaps well justified criticism of my stance and history on the matter.  My reply was quite rightly deleted too.I'll refrain from treading on the persons toes later tonight ..when we hit the Vyborg dance floor!

Jim Lawes ● 6688d

So what happened to the posting of 13:08 today?  Don't tell me The Fox has been over here now?

Phil Andrews ● 6688d

Fair enough....just to let you know I've read your posting of 12.20pm....and I'm able to understand the points you've made.You'll see that I haven't resorted to screaming,shouting and throwing my toys out of the pram... using awful language... nor will I be going to a Solicitor..nor complaining to any moderator.I don't know G too well but he seems to be, to use a term used by Mrs Thatcher, "someone I can do business with"..even in cyberspace.My own exchange of messages on the TW7 site with SA ..when that Forum was just underway several years ago..could be described as well intentioned and enquiring. The responses were often ridiculous.You say: ""As I stated previously Simon did wrong over a year but you seem to enjoy dredging it up""  I've no idea who you are. Why should you be frightened to reveal your real identity?

Jim Lawes ● 6688d

Jayne.I can't believe that you have been reading this TW8 Forum's discussions and features for so long and haven't been able to make a previous posting. Hasn't there been anything to compliment or participate in?Nonetheless that's what happens apparently.  Non posters have their passion is aroused over something they read...and then they join in.  Well it's good to hear from you.  As you know I do overpost on these and other Forums..and I certainly have a passion too...to see them do well."Jim comes across as having nothing else to do"( then attack one single person").Umm  really?  I thought I did do other things!I'm sorry that you get fed up coming on here etc etc..and that it's getting boring hearing my having a go etc etc.SA has now apparently been banned from the TW7 Forum..and his candidature of the Moderators post has been cancelled.Have you protested over there?Anyway you have your point of view..and that's fine. I'm just trying to get to the heart of a local cyberspace problem..and maybe my judgement is wrong.

Jim Lawes ● 6689d

Would George not consider handing it over to the NeighbourNet people (subject to his reinstatement)?

Colin Murphy ● 6689d

Let is rest for gods sakeI am getting fed up with coming on here and reading Jim having a go at Simon. Its getting really boring now.Jim comes across as having nothing else to do then attack one single person, does he understand the word victimisation? I think any resonable forum administrator would have warned him by now.Others have posted under a false names, yet you dont attack them, simon did it over a year ago and still you bring it up all the time, even though he admitted it over a year ago. It seems to me as if you are trying to stir the pot all the time and pick fights.You are coming across as having an obsession with Simon and all the complaining on here is getting tiresome.This is a place to discuss any issue, and everyone has the right to express their opinion - what gives you the right to say what can and cant be posted. What happened to freedom of speech and expression? Its wrong when people come on here and dont respect that.Perhaps a thread attacking you is in order?

Verification required ● 6689d

"He has already e-mailed me directly with a plea for forgivenness and let's meet etc.  But I'm in no conciliatory mood at present on the matter."As you are normally a fair-minded gent I assume there is more to this than we are being told. However to the outside observer, while he may have his faults, Simon appears to be a basically decent person.

Mike Hardacre ● 6690d

AllanI wasnt bringing my Ill daughter in to it I was Asking Jim to stop this as ive far more inportant things on my Mind.

Simon Anderson ● 6690d

Thanks Vanessa...and noted.

Jim Lawes ● 6690d

I think it died or was murdered.

Vanessa Smith ● 6690d

We've heard that the Ivytag website has closed down but that the Ivytag Forum continues for the benefit of its members.There was a Worton Road Residents Association website in existence many months back. Does anyone have it.s www/URL address. I visit there several times a week.

Jim Lawes ● 6690d

How typical of SA to bring up his sick daughter to try and deflect criticism. Having a sick daughter does not seem to stop him from running feuds with others and mounting spurious campaigns on his Ivytag website using multiple false identities to make it look like he has support. And he thinks that he is being bullied! Message to SA: Clearly you are your own worst enemy. Surely you have figured that out by now?

Allan Stevens ● 6690d

VanessaWith due respect your recent postings on this topic do exude a triumphalism which is misplaced, or at best overstated.Let us not forget that where recent events on tw7.com are concerned it was one of your own colleagues, or former colleagues, hiding behind the alias "The Fox" who was by some margin the greatest villain of the piece.Sure, George might arguably have reacted sooner and Simon would have served himself best by not reacting at all, but the disgrace lies with the coward who saw fit to take advantage of George's good nature and Simon's sensitivity to post some fairly foul and unsubstantiated allegations in a calculated attempt to try to sabotage efforts to put an end to the disunity amongst the tenants' movement on Ivybridge. This creature knew from personal experience that Simon would react as he did.Please accept my absolute assurance that the efforts of this gutless, faceless individual will come to nought.

Phil Andrews ● 6691d

JimI swore to Myself i wouldnt post on this thread no more but after emailling you to ask for a truce and explaing My Daughter Shivon is Back in Hospital Ill and also I lost My Uncle on Friday Night you seem to not be stopping your Vendetta against me and i am getting very Fed up and upset now.Its obvious you are trying to have some sort of Argument with me on here and I feel sorry about all the other users off this site to have to read all this Garbage, but i am not going to be put down by you on here no more and keep quiet.You say you are a Good Judge of Charactor and say you dont Like me but respect another person who has done far more worse stuff on here than myself so lets compare shall we.What Ive Done!!Came on here nearly 2yrs ago under a False name and praised myself (as a joke) didnt attack anyone in it and was told off by the admin, Admitted and appologised on here to EVERYONE (far more that others who hide behind names do)You state i was Wrong over and over again and How manytimes do i have to say Sorry....Came on here and Posted a Joke- Agree i shouldnt have but i did think it was funny but should off realised everyone doesent share my Views on things which again ive appologised to everyone 4.Ive NEVER came on here and attacked Anyone personally!So why are you still determined to Turn everyone on here against me Ive made mistakes, Ive owned up, apologised and Not done anything like it again.THe Guy You Respect what they Have Done!Came on here over 2yrs ago and personally attacked an elderly lady who just passed away (remember that?)Was banned from here because many of the users complained about them and there abusive attacks on them (remember?)Has Attacked many users on here (under his Name b 4 eing banned and Under Account suspended) Incl Ex Cllr Hughes and Mrs SmithPosted under an Alias "Account suspended"Attacked many of those that were there friend on other Forums.So its Not ok for me to have done a couple things bad but its ok for others?All i can say Jim is be careful you dont say anything bad about that person or you will see your name spread all over other Forums.I ask you Again pubically Please put an end to this Meet me for Coffee or a Beer sit down and lets Chat as Adults in Private instead off on here when more Inportant issues can be discussed and you can get Back to posting your Great Photos (that we ALL enjoy seeing) you never know you might get to like me if you get to know me...ive nothing against others being there to mediate and ive nothing against you Jim i just want to put an end to this once and for all as i am not probably the only one on here getting fed up with this now.Ps i cant use Spell Check problem with Computer which wont allow me to down load it i am affraid so i am sorry is spelling is wrong and i appllogise to all the users of this site for all this.

Simon Anderson ● 6691d

I fear you know who has become a liability hence the lack of "chums".

Vanessa Smith ● 6691d

Mike,Thanks for your observation and comment..and I take that on board.There has nonetheless been a saga going back years..most of the evidence now having been deleted from us. Maybe you are joining the story/saga at chapter 10..whilst some of us have started at earlier chapters.I joined the TW7 Website at it's launch..and endeavoured.. with others ..to help it on its way.  It was like having a dog running over a cricket pitch during play..when certain people joined in..and my enthusiasm and heart sunk and I withdrew. Yes..all our early informative and enquiring postings were given the chop.The idea of the ownership of the TW7 site passing to you know who..is..in my book..the last straw.Have no fears..SA is irrepressible..he'll bounce back and all in his mind will be forgotten.  He has already e-mailed me directly with a plea for forgivenness and let's meet etc.  But I'm in no conciliatory mood at present on the matter.Why don't some of his chums post messages here to criticise my stance..and perhaps enlighten me? I don't mind.

Jim Lawes ● 6691d

What's new?

Vanessa Smith ● 6691d

Are you accusing me of being Alfie?  Expect a call from my solicitor.

Phil Andrews ● 6692d

Jim, whilst a wouldn't disagree with Helen's comments on the general quality of your respective postings I do feel that perhaps you should hold your counsel on some of these discussions. You may personally dislike this person and have good reason for doing so but he has been the subject of some nasty and vindictive abuse on the other site which should have been taken down more quickly. There is an element of kicking a man when he is down here I feel.

Mike Hardacre ● 6692d

Thanks for those supporting words Helen..I'm glad I'm not alone in my thoughts!One's mind wonders to those occasions when SA was posting here under a false name...praising himself and his performances etc etc.  There's an interesting new regulation coming out soon which will make it an offence for businesses,restaurants and others  to post positive and misleading recommendations for themselves and their own services  on the Internet so that an unsuspecting viewers get taken it.  Such similar practices were the perhaps unforgivable habit of you know who. Indeed he was found out and admitted it!Then I recalled that frightening horror video clip that he posted once as a new topic. Most of us were horrified at the shock and such poor taste. He seemed happy to admit that such videos were suitable for his young childrenMy concern is that he shouldn't be appointed Moderator for the TW7 website..I consider him to be unsuitable and that posters anywhere should avoid him ..less they react too harstly and find themselves booted off any Forums in our area.

Jim Lawes ● 6692d

Well I thought the answer to "What's it all about" was ----Alfie! But then decided not to be tempted into sayng it.

Vanessa Smith ● 6693d

... I blame John, myself!:-(  ...  ...  ;-)

Sarah Felstead ● 6693d

Personally I can't be arsed with any of this - it makes Play School look intellectual.

Vanessa Smith ● 6693d

Jim, I must say I much prefer your postings of photos and common sense articles to SA and his insane rantings. Having looked in on the other sites for Isleworth I find they don't hold a candle to this one and the ChiswickW4 site, at least on these two everyone seems more jolly 99% of the time.SA you have a very big chip on your shoulder get some vinegar!!!!!Am I in trouble now should I get a solicitor???

Helen Fogarth ● 6693d

""He states last year about certain people posting to many THREADS on here but then you look on here and it seems like he has taken over the site!""SA: If you look at the last 100 new topics posted on this TW8 Forum..you will be able to count that I am the AUTHOR of only 5 new TOPICS/THREADS.    You have been the author of 7.

Jim Lawes ● 6693d

I've notice that all those recent messages on the TW7 fight/fight/fight thread have now been deleted. http://www.isleworthtw7.ohsohosted.com/viewforum.php?f=In addition, the list of website members ..which covers two pages...shows no sign of "SA" and "S"..his entries having been given the chop...by the Moderator presumably.http://www.isleworthtw7.ohsohosted.com/memberlist.php?mode=joined&order=ASC&start=0ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooI must say that the subject does give me a headache! You too?http://www.isleworthtw7.ohsohosted.com/memberlist.php

Jim Lawes ● 6693d

""Oh yes Jim Past is the past and what i allgd did on Tw4 is in the past and ive not gone under any false names since so get off my back (was u a bully at school?0""Getting someone booted off the W4 site..when they had just returned from Iraq...is not a matter for forgetting. Your poor postings on those occasions set a trap for unwise observers. It's a warning to others to beware of raising your cyberspace temperature which in my view is incompatible with that required in Community activites.How can PC McLean check on previous messages on TW7 when some 95% have been given the chop since that website started...many because of your behaviour.No I wasn't a bully at school..nor when I did my National Service. Remember I've been around and lived in Brentford,Chiswick and Isleworth for over 60 years..and that qualifies me to post messages especially when there is a continued threat to the wellbeing of local Forums. You say "I am NOT lying down and taking this crap no more"Surely that's the response from someone who won't swallow justified criticism easily.Please show my postings to Pc McLean.

Jim Lawes ● 6693d

Ps i am taking these attacks personal now and all coments are being forward to my solicotors Lloyd Brennand.As to the Nasty comments on Tw7 ive now reported them to Pc McLean who ive asked to investigate.I am NOT lying down and taking this crap no more.Oh yes Jim Past is the past and what i allgd did on Tw4 is in the past and ive not gone under any false names since so get off my back (was u a bully at school?0

Simon Anderson ● 6693d

Entertainment_ what you feel someone being attacked and being called a "nonce" is entertainment?

Simon Anderson ● 6693d

JlAt TOP form again attacking Me like usalHe states last year about certain people posting to many threads on here but then you look on here and it seems like he has taken over the site!As to TW7 i deleted my posts and do you think its ok for anyone to be called a Pedo on a website.I get attacked when ive just lost a uncle and Shivon is back in Hospital but Jim you wouldnt care about that would you mate you say i am bad at attacking people well look in the mirror my friend as your just as bad!!What i am sayin now is if someone has something to say about me and cant say it 2 my face then stop being cowards and attacking me on here.

Simon Anderson ● 6693d

JimIt isn't my URL to hand over.  It is George's.  Honestly, I don't own or control everybody and everything which occurs in Isleworth... :o)In the light of today's exchange I think it is unlikely that George is considering handing the domain over to Simon, but things on Ivybridge change so quickly that it is anyone's guess what will happen tomorrow.  One needs a thick skin and a certain immunity to surprise to deal with all this.  Parenting experience can also be an asset.It is a shame because there is at the moment a very real prospect of the various factions within the tenants' movement on Ivybridge coming together as one, but there are also some really pernicious forces out there who are hell-bent on preventing this from happening and they are very adept at winding up some of the people involved.Patience, a cool head and an instinct for keeping an eye on the end game are not abilities which can easily be transmitted.  My advise would be to simply enjoy the entertainment, and not to take the whole thing too seriously.

Phil Andrews ● 6693d

".and whilst it may bring in the crowds of viewers.."... do you really think that this is the case, Jim?  The only reason I peeked in is beause of John C's posting - and it is as bad as buying 'the sun' as a newspaper, to read!  Surely there are other URL's for Isleworth available to leave this one alone to anyone daft enough to want to participate (either by posting or by reading).

Sarah Felstead ● 6693d

Phil,I was most concerned to read during the past few days....that George was planning to shortly handover the TW7 website to SA!!!!Is this so?  The revelent posting has since been deleted..I believe...following George's threat to withdraw the offer and hand the website to NITA personnel instead.As a resident of North Isleworth..but still TW7..I'm appalled by the prospect of the site being in such an individuals hands.The current fisti-cuffs on TW7 is just another in a series of wars over the years..and whilst it may bring in the crowds of viewers...it does little to cheer up TW7 residents who may perhaps prefer the site to be used in a more pleasant way. I suppose it does reveal the type of people that the authorities have to contend with...and highlights those who cause havoc on local Forum websites.About a year ago, SA ventured onto the ChiswickW4 website with a message in the his lingo. A W4 poster challenged SA for the nature of his awful posting.  What happened?SA thought he was being bullied..complained to the W4 moderator accordingly using that "I'm being bullied" words I believe. The Chiswick poster was banned from the W4 Forum..and it was extra sad because he had just returned from a tour of duty in the army from Iraq!!In the meantime, SA was free to continue plastering websites all over the place.My message to all is beware inflaming SA. In my view he's a problem on these Forums.....whatever anyone says.  George has had to delete 100's of TW7 messages over the months..and SA has seemingly made no effort to use a Spellchecker..after being advised to do so. Amazing.Why don't you hand the URL over to The Isleworth Society?There's more to Isleworth than the Summerwood Estate.

Jim Lawes ● 6693d

"Entertainment guaranteed ..."  ...  ??Against my better judgement I had a look - and I wish I hadn't y'know.

Sarah Felstead ● 6693d

Beats me mate, but I think you'll find The Fox is somebody you may have been acquainted with in a former life.  Ever fancied being a councillor in Isleworth?

Phil Andrews ● 6694d