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Joan Perry · 4/13/2007 11:54:00 AM

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Coley Thermometers

Hi there. My sister, June and myself, Joan from Australia, are doing some research on where our father used to work. The company was called Coley Thermometers based in Brentford. Our father worked there after WWII until he left in 1963. The company was still there in 1972. Unfortunately he has passed away. Does anybody know what has happened to the company.With kind thanks. June and Joan (nee Martin)

Joan Perry ● 6623d126 Comments

Audrey when I look back at the photos posted on this forum, I do wish our mum and dad took us to these interesting places, which there are many. But they chose to take us overseas for holidays. I say to my children now who have children, visit Australia first, you might regret it when you're older and perhaps move away from Australia. Who knows! Do you feel the same? Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6547d

You're welcome Joan! The steam museum is very interesting. We visited it on one of our trips home and my son was particularly interested in everything there. No doubt your Dad did visit that pub, it used to be a friendly place.....way back in the 50's was when I was last in there!!

Audrey Walton ● 6547d

Audrey thank you so much you're a gem. I can now finalise those photos. In one of my 'google' searches I was reading about the steam museum. Very interesting. I wonder if my dad used to drink at that pub? Again, thank you Audrey.

Joan Perry ● 6547d

The tower in the second photo is the steam museum near Kew Bridge. To the left of that is the tower of St. George's Church. The last picture is of the Waterman's Arms pub.

Audrey Walton ● 6547d

Thanks Colin. I can write that on the back. Two more to go. I hate finding photos with nothing on the back. Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6547d

The building close to Kew Bridge to the right of the Tower used to be a BT Training School Joan.

Colin Vaughan ● 6547d

June and I are still sorting Dad's photos out and came across these. Are these taken at Brentford?? Once identified we can label them and file them in the folder. Thank you for any help.Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6548d

Joan,What a brilliant photo! Your brother looks like a right scamp.My sister nearly vomitted when she read the bit about warming the milk before the classroom fireplace...she has hated milk all her life because of those little bottles of warm milk back in the late 1930s at St. Mary's School, Acton Lane, Chiswick, W4.

Ann S. Allridge ● 6557d

Love the the way Trafalgar School opened it's website with the old style ship and the colourful rainbow. Thanks Jim for the link. June and Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6558d

Is that the Headmaster's Austin Somerset(?)parked in the playground Joan? 1955, I was in Malta on an RAF Radar Station then, keeping a watchout for 'Ivan' in his Bear/Bison.

Colin Vaughan ● 6558d

http://www.trafalgar-inf.richmond.sch.uk/default.htm

Jim Lawes ● 6558d

Well,well,well Joan..There you are 10,000 miles away, you scan in a 50 year old picture onto your computer, then jiggle around with it perhaps, upload it onto Photobucket..and then send it into space..and it arrives 10,000 miles away again onto the Forum..for us all to see so clearly.Isn't that magic? Coke in the playground? You don't see those sights today!!By the way your TRAFALGAR Infants and Junior School in Twickenham has a website!! and that above is the opening image!!

Jim Lawes ● 6558d

Our brother Johnny, 2nd from the left looking at the camera. It was taken in 1955 by the local newspaper, they were there to take a photo of the school's PE lesson. Note the coal in the background as this was used to keep the furnace's burning,(so we could warm our bottle of milk before drinking).

Joan Perry ● 6558d

Now she's gonna tell us she bungie-jumped from Tower Bridge..........jays, Joan, I live life to the full but those picture postings ugh! Don't think I haven't tried.

Ann S. Allridge ● 6564d

Sounds like your papers have 'Tabloid Mentality' like some of ours do. Rupert Murdoch probably own the paper concerned.

Colin Vaughan ● 6565d

Yes we are too South to be troubled by these storms. Sydney quite often get these violent storms. This storm has unfortunately taken lives. Did they show much of the storms in the UK? I am so angry at our major newspaper today. Front cover you'd think we would have Australian news, no, who's on the front cover - Paris b..... Hilton crying. Who owns our newspaper!! I wonder. I will be dropping them a line and they'll probably drop my letter in the bin. There was a tiny bit in the corner that said see page 2 for storm pictures. Even that wasn't a good coverage. Sorry about that bit of 'venting'. Thank you for your concern Colin.

Joan Perry ● 6565d

Just diverting a bit Joan, have you been affected by the storms that have hit the East Coast of Austrailia?Or are you a bit too far to the South to be troubled by them.

Colin Vaughan ● 6565d

Ann believe me when I tell you I did not know how to put a Smiley in a forum post. Perseverance and trying to get one up on Hugh's great Smiley's made me determined. So with the help of my daughters and many phone calls, I did it and with the encouragement of all, it became easier. I made mistakes with my first photo in the forum, it was huge! But they treated me with great tolerance and understanding. So Ann You're never too old!! I'm in my mid fifties. C'mon Ann give it a go. Live life to the full.

Joan Perry ● 6566d

"Ann you said you were back. Where have you been?"Joan,Nowhere...I've been 'poorly' to coin a phrase and temporarily lost interest in the computer.All's well that ends well, so I shall be pestering everyone again...now where did I put Hugh's machine gun?????? We can't have newcomers coming in and beating the pants off us oldies (like me) who are too dumb to cop on to this picture posting lark, so - Joan my girl - watch out...I'm on my way!(Kidding, of course, I love your postings, etc., and am just a little jealous of your genius).

Ann S. Allridge ● 6566d

Dead right, Hugh....I am greeeeeen with envy. Give us a loan of that machine gun, I'm off to Oz!!!!!!

Ann S. Allridge ● 6566d

Joan Perry ● 6567d

You taught me well Hugh. I like good competition!!!I like to live dangerously.

Joan Perry ● 6567d

Joan,s getting to GOOD with her animation,s Jim..

Hugh Telford ● 6567d

Congratulations to you Joan.. 100 not out!!It's has been a magical journal for everyone..and many readers too! You've certainly gathered together a formitable group of helpers and correspondents....and a formitable group of smileys too!!

Jim Lawes ● 6568d

Joan Perry ● 6568d

I always find this strange. Monday 11th June we have a public holiday for the Queen's Birthday. Seemingly it is celebrated as a public holiday in a number of Commonwealth countries. The exact date of celebrations varies from country to country, and none of them coincide with the real birthday of the Queen. At least you have big celebrations for Her Majesty. We have a nice extended weekend. I bet if you ask a lot of people what the day off work was for they wouldn't know. But again what's funny, is that each of the states in Australia holds it on different dates! What a strange world we live in.

Joan Perry ● 6568d

Jim's back. Ann thank you for your comments. I so love coming to this forum. This forum does wonders for my health. My ancestry search is incredible. My Mum's heritage is causing some headaches. Our family thought mum was raised in Troon, but appears not. Her family didn't go to live there til 1938, my Mum was 11 years old. I received an email from the Troon connection asking about Mum's sister Eveline, this gentleman went to school with her and was looking for Eveline re a reunion, but sadly I had to email him sad news. Eveline passed away in 2000. But like the Brentford people, Troon people have also been incredible. Not only in Troon, but another gentleman emailed me saying he knew a little about the my Mum's family, only to find out he lives 10 minutes away from me here in Adelaide. He came out from Troon in 1973. So again it's turned out wonderful. My mother was illegitimate so finding out more about her is a problem, now taken up by Val at British Ancestry. We actually don't know now where my Grandma was born, this is where Val hopefully can help. I advise everyone to talk to their parent's, relatives etc to find out anything before it's too late. I'm also researching my husband, Dean's past. We thought his father was one of 11, NO, he's one of 15 children. I found that out by speaking to the curator of the cemetery. There are 4 deceased younger siblings in unmarked graves. Dean's father, Fred is 88 and still has all his marbles (so to speak) so I'm always on the phone to him asking him multiple questions. Everyday my children ask "what's new today". I also keep looking at my house photos that Jim took, and especially the ones at Trafalgar school. June found the photo of Trafalgar school and I am waiting for the 'postie' to come, I haven't heard his motorbike yet. So hopefully I'll be back later with photo/s. I must check back to when I first asked my question on this forum about Coley's - it was 13th April, can you believe it! Did I say that one of Dad's workmates now emails me? Isn't this just great. The Internet has certainly changed my life.So nice to read your posts again Jim. Ann you said you're back, where have you been? Have a nice day,Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6569d

Jim,Peter Rutt's site is excellent; he puts in a lot of work.We have had a bit of fun locating contacts in Brentford, North Dakota, and I finally managed to get some old photos emailed of the original town - talk about Wild West....! The town was founded by a Brentford man who worked on the railroad, but sadly nobody seems to know who he was.As you wrote so truly, we are blessed to live in computer times.

Ann S. Allridge ● 6569d

Hello Joan and all,As this TOPIC and thread approaches the 100 mark, it's amazing that you are still discovering ancestery connections. Where in Scotland did your Granma live?We've still to find some information for you about your father (Mr Martin)playing footabll for Brentford.I'm exchanging messages now with my cousin in Adelaide..thanks to your goodself for hunting him down...and the subject of pictures hasn't been raised yet!..but a Ozzy holiday has!!I'm catching up after a little break! due to work work work.

Jim Lawes ● 6569d

Thanks for the birthday wishes Ann...for that 20th Aprilanniversary of one of the biggest events in 1939!! It's good to see you on the Forums again!I wonder who was the first person or family to settle down in Brentford..all those years ago? And now look what's happened!!Yes Joan's thread and story has been wonderful..and I know that many many visitors to the Forum have enjoyed it. Indeed, I've even had private e-mails on the Topic. I also looked at Peter Rutt's website earlier today..and his activities about old Brentford places and families are just wonderful..and still bring in the crowds. Bless the Lord for the Computer, Websites and Forums!There are still queries to answer for Joan..for example her father played football for Brentford 50 odds years ago..and a picture is sought. Then there are Isleworth questions still to answer.

Jim Lawes ● 6569d

Jim,"Ann is back in town..." who moi?Honestly have to admit I hadn't read the Coley Thermometers thread until I saw Colin's complimentary remarks today...what I have been missing....Wow! The best thread in a long time, and yes I had a little weep along with Joan!Jim very kindly photographed my old home and my parents' home for me some time ago, and I still get a kick out of looking at the pictures (which I printed out) as do my two sisters. He's a gentle giant is our Jim!Jim,Belated happy birthday wishes....I've been on the 'wounded list' for a few months and am inclined to neglect the computer, etc., and as for my garden...least said soonest mended. Fortunately I have a very kind friend who has done wonders out there over the past few weeks...we found one thistle that was 6'7"!!!!!!! The like of it wouldn't dare grow in your garden. Thanks to all for the Coley thread, and - Joan - don't worry about 'taking over', we have too few enjoyable trips down memory lane. You and all our posting pals have just made my day.

Ann S. Allridge ● 6569d

As you might know I'm now researching my Grandma in Scotland. Mmmm, talk about skeletons in the closet. It's turning out to be very interesting. But on the other hand I'm learning a lot. I had a phone call this morning from a Scotch gentleman who lives 10 minutes away from me, who used to know my Aunty and Uncle from Scotland. He lived in the same town. That is incredible.How are you going Jim with your cousin? Any photos for you yet? I was watching Foxtel and they had Changing Rooms on, and they talked about the Canal boat at Isleworth they did. Do you remember that?I'm still around of course and a daily reader of this site. I haven't disappeared I'm 'lurking'.Take care and have a good day.Best regards,Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6573d

Church Schools debate was very interesting. It was certainly a long thread.

Joan Perry ● 6577d

3238 was the long Church Schools thread on the W4 Forum..Joanhttp://nnet-server.com/server/app/forum/ShowMessage.asp?ID=I found some of it a bit heavy reading for my poor brain.Best to forget No 259!Glad that you found Vyborg. We have about three separate threads on that..and no doubt one day it will continue again with Doris keeping us informed along the way with the Romanov story!I believe is was Audrey who introduced us to the sliding cars video..wasn't that alarming to watch?Off to bed now! Bye for now Adelaide!!

Jim Lawes ● 6577d

What a great thread that was to read. A lot of quick witted people. Had quite a laugh. I was surprised to see a Jon Perry post!

Joan Perry ● 6577d

http://nnet-server.com/server/app/forum/ShowMessage.asp?ID=91886Morning Joan..I'll check 259 again..and also I'll look for the Church Schools one.The above Chiswick Forum thread about FISH was amusing..so if you find the time..you'll have a few laughs going through the W4 messages!

Jim Lawes ● 6577d

Good Morning to all. Colin thank you so much for the Google link. I will have a look. Thank you,Joan

Joan Perry ● 6577d

Joan, if you go to www.ruislip.co.uk/lido, it will tell you all about the Lido, the minature railway etc. Swimming is not banned, but the water quality isn't too good.

Colin Vaughan ● 6577d

Joan, it is spelt Ruislip actually, and is more West London than North. Situated on the Central Line beyond Greenford and Northolt. It has a large Lido there, which you could swim in and sail on, but maybe not anymore, I'll Google it and see what I get.

Colin Vaughan ● 6577d

It was quite funny when we moved here from the UK. We arrived in October which is spring, well come December and the HOT weather, we weren't aware of how hot it would get, so we had all the windows wide open and 'roasting' until an Aussie neighbour said that in summer you have to keep the heat out, all windows, curtains and doors to be closed. There we all were sitting in this dark house. It was 40ºC+ that summer. We soon learnt. All we had were small individual fans to keep cool. Now it's a different story, we have two large air-conditioners to keep us cool. Also a gas heater to keep us warm. How do you keep your homes warm, as all your houses are two storey. The majority of houses here are single storey. When we lived there we had open coal fires. Our winters are no where as bad or severe like you have in the UK. Adelaide is pretty well protected. My sister used to live on the South Island of NZ and even she said their winters are freezing. The North of Australia, Northern Territory only have 2 seasons, wet or dry. in 1999, we spent 9 days in Darwin and it was in April. It was hot and humid, the humidity was like 90%. I'm not good with the sticky humid weather. Especially on a tour bus with 40 other hot,sticky bodies. Colin could you tell me is there a town called Ruslip, Ryslip or something like that near you? I came across some paperwork of my dad's but I can't read how it's spelt. Hope to chat soon.Regards, Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6577d

Oh yes I am in England Joan, in Barnet to be exact ex Acton and Ealing resident, but still a Brentford supporter despite all!! It always amuses me to watch the Rugby from New Zealand, as their Winter is yours too. South Island and Invergargill gets an icy blast from the Antarctic, just as we do from the Arctic crowd all wrapped up in anoraks etc It amazes me how many people over here cannot get their heads round the fact that the seasons are reversed North to South. One of my neighbours was convinced that a Holiday in June down there would be OK, such is the total unawareness of some people these days.

Colin Vaughan ● 6577d

I think there's about 3 more days before our winter starts? But today we had everything but snow! The thunder and lightning wasn't too bad. The rain was very heavy. Dean said at work they had hail stones. My daughter who lives near the coast said winds were strong. But we can't complain we really need the rain and lots more. But I do miss the snow.Colin where are you? I have a feeling you're not in England! Sorry if I'm wrong.

Joan Perry ● 6577d

Joan, I read what you said re the weather, and for a moment thought you were refering to the weather we are experiencing here, exactly the same its rained all week-end, and the tempreture is also 13 deg C

Colin Vaughan ● 6577d

Jim I tried that number 259 and this came up.Topic: Use of the discussion forum Forum HomePosted by: Phil JosephDate/Time: 22/06/00 12:58:00..........................................................Do you know the thread number for the 'Church schools'?

Joan Perry ● 6578d

I am going to stay on computer all day too. Weather here is cold 13ºc and raining. I have the heater on and am nice and cosy.I'm checking information again with June re the Brentford Football Club dates. I don't think she has any photos. I'll get back to you soon.

Joan Perry ● 6578d

I've had a blast going through past threads. I came across one thread 'Vyborg' I really enjoyed that one. The snow/ice video of cars sliding all over the place was interesting. I couldn't get over how the cars just couldn't stop. What I'm doing is I put a thread number in and go up one number at a time. It's great. Some very interesting threads and comments.I only go to other sites so I don't keep bothering you, but it's hard not to ask you because your knowledge of the surrounding towns is so extensive. I should just stick with you. Did I mention that one my Dad's friends from Coley's, emails me with pictures and information. It's hard to believe we've come so far in such short a time. All thanks to you.

Joan Perry ● 6578d

Joan:I having trouble getting away from the keyboard today..as it's such a miserable cloudy Bank Holiday afternoon!!Clearing out and sorting the many e-mails in my in tray (350!) ..most I put into folders...I decided to open the Richmond & Twickenham Times newsletter..and then went to the Forum..and saw your request about the Brentford Football players of 1948-1951!!!I'm sure we can help again...because there are photographs of Brentford players in those distant days hanging in the Clubhouse at Griffin Park.I remember Billy Dare and Bill Sperrin, Fred Monk, and Ted Gaskell in goal etc etc and have just checked in my old autograph book to see if "Martin" was in there. But no. Maybe Neil or other Bees supporters can help.Your posting on the Richmond site:"I am researching my father's past and found out that he played for Brentford Football Club somewhere between 1948-1951. My father's name was John Victor Martin. Could you please advise me who I could contact."Fingers crossed..we should be able to get a result on that one. Brentford recently celebrated 100 years of something..and historical records were on display somewhere!

Jim Lawes ● 6578d

Glad it worked for you Joan!One could spend hours on these keyboards typing an assortment of different numbers to find out what message had been posted in times gone by.The ChiswickW4 Forum has been active for 7 years..since the year 2000...and some familiar names appear on the early postings.There was one year 2001 thread I found called "Church Schools" which achieved 210 messages approx..it must have been the 1st 200 thread on these Forums.Try:http://nnet-server.com/server/app/forum/ShowMessage.asp?ID=259

Jim Lawes ● 6578d

Yay!!! It worked for me. Thank you again.

Joan Perry ● 6579d

http:nnet-server.com/server/app/forum/showmessage.asp?ID=Yes, that URL does work..and you can find the message numbers by right clicking and on that menu..going to PAGE INFOthen click on top row FORMSand that will give you a message number..which is a good idea to make a note of for the future.Our Chiswick Forum friend Richard Jennings gave us the above information some months back.The message numbers are for OUR whole group of Forums..and at present the number goes up to 287644.I was surprised to find that message No 100,000 was mine!!No. 150,000 was Matt HamerNo. 240,000 was Gerry TanNo 260,000 was Colin Murphy etc etc So try http:nnet-server.com/server/app/forum/showmessage.asp?ID=100000for starters!!

Jim Lawes ● 6579d

You have been a busy lady Joan..and so welcome home for a good rest!We are in the middle of a Bank Holiday weekend here in TW7 and 8..but sadly the weather has changed drastically..from fab sunshine during the week...to cold, rain and showers now..and lots over overcast skies. :0(So, we don't mind being in flop mode during a bank holiday..but we'd like to see it looking brighter! Indeed the weather this weekend is so gloomy that taking pictures is hardly worthwhile!! You've certainly have had a whirlwind of cyberspace photos to digest..and lots information to think about..we know that it has lifted all your spirits! That's a good idea to compile a scrapbook/memoirs. It certainly has been enjoyable for us to participate in...and helps us all to appreciate the interesting areas we live in...and our own backgrounds.Yes the camera has enabled me to enter some pleasant places and ask lots of questions..but surprisingly so many people have not heard of this website or Forum!! So, we are a cyberspace community of perhaps not many hundreds...but the viewing figures can only grow!It's a pity that when threads fall off the end of page 10...they disappear..unless they can be found on FORUM SEARCH or you have noted down the message number:If you have the number..just add it to the end of this URLhttp:nnet-server.com/server/app/forum/showmessage.asp?ID=that should do it! Try it out...add any number under 270123

Jim Lawes ● 6579d

Hi everyone. I've completed my babysitting duties, kids were great, it was the animals that gave me grief. The Puppy and the baby chickens! The pup is a Blue Heeler and her natural instincts are to 'round up sheep' but she thought baby chickens would be better. She had them going in every direction, me included. So I'm home for a rest.These latest photos of Trafalgar school make me feel like I've just stepped back into the past. The second photo hits home the hardest. I can't believe how old the school is. Elmsleigh Rd houses look better now than 45 years ago. Jim, you must be well known around the area. It's great the way people let you in to take photos. My Aunty Alma is most impressed with you Jim. She thinks you're the greatest. We all do. Not only has Shaw Farm involved Aunty Alma, it has also caught the interest of her own children and grandchildren. It has brought back many good memories for her.Thank you so much from us all.

Joan Perry ● 6579d

Afternoon Jim, June typing now to give my fingers a rest. These photos are unreal, it brings back so many memories. I remember walking through that single gate through to a tuck shop that used to be in Third Cross Road. I can not believe the school is still there. I started there in 1953 in the Infants section. I am taking Joan up to her daughter's place for the weekend so she will catch up with you on Monday 28th.Thanks again for such great photos,Kind regards June and Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6582d

In picture No 2 Joan, I recognise the diamond shaped sign on RMC House (Ready Mixed Concrete).It's 75% changed down that way these days..others will be familiar with Felthams changes too.

Jim Lawes ● 6582d

It seems we might have missed their 100th Birthday celebrations!------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Joan, Recognise the playground wall?---------------------------------------------------------This is a side entrance to both Schools accessed also from Elmsleigh Road...shown below!-----------------------------------------------------------One last look at the School..and then I drove back through Twickenham Heath Road..to sunny Brentford!-----------------------------------------------------------

Jim Lawes ● 6582d

Going through Dad's photos we came across these of Feltham High Street, we think these were sent to him in 1967/68 from an old friend. Does anyone know where this photo was taken in comparison to the new Feltham Centre........................................It looks like the person turned and took this photo looking the other way, are the shops on the left still there?...............................................Are the shops and offices still there, we knew it as 'windy' corner...............................................

Joan Perry ● 6582d

Trafalgar School. We have many fond memories of our time spent in the school. June will have to look for the photo that was taken in that playground. It's wonderful to see the old brickwork.And beautiful Twickenham Green. We as children had many a conker fight there. Gathered many acorns. I'm sure we weren't the only one's that had a good old conker fight. The Church opposite the Green hasn't changed. June and I are going to visit Aunty Alma tomorrow. We have so much more to show her.

Joan Perry ● 6583d

Twickenham is always a pleasant area to visit..and today I found myself in Third Cross Road to visit CPS the car battery supplier and checker. Then across the road to visit the Carton Supplier!First of all a quick look at Twickenham Green..as I believe Joan was asking questions about that open space on the TW3 website. The trees are still there..and the cricket square..which is roped off. They seem to look after the pitch. Anyone remember the radio broadcaster Peter Murray who used to play on this ground? I played there about 6 times over the years..and remember that if anyone scored 0..the scoreboard showed a picture of a duck against your name! How cruel!!---------------------------------------------------------Looking eastwards towards Twickenham town centre. The toilet block in the distance..at the far end of the Green..have for some time now been converted, with extentions, into a flourishing cafe/restaurant. Mothers can take tea whilst their youngsters play on the grass!---------------------------------------------------------The Church opposite the Green. What's missing? The trolleybus wires..long gone!!---------------------------------------------------------Now we turn into Third Cross Road! and soon the School comes into view. Pines the printing factory is no longer there next door..having gone broke and owing people like me ....money!I asked permission..and was able to take some pictures in the Playground!---------------------------------------------------------Joan might recognise the brickwork and design!! It seemed a very friendly and colourful place!---------------------------------------------------------more pictures in the pipeline..on this topic..perhaps tomorrow!

Jim Lawes ● 6583d

Ann is back in town..and I thought that she might like to see what we were all able to do on this thread.It was quite memorable...and touching wasn't it?Joan and all: Please feel free to right click and save any pictures of mine you wish. Pages of text can be printed off.Sometimes websites disappear for ever...such as the Gillette Staff Association website which had all those images of the mighty Gillette Building being contstructed in the 1935s.Did anyone save them?Maybe I need to go to Hounslow Library.

Jim Lawes ● 6600d

As explained on the missing pictures thread, All the images are still in MY PICTURES FILE...and can be republished via the flickr site...if FIM fail!!

Jim Lawes ● 6614d

I have been overwhelmed by your greetings and nice comments. and I much appreciate them all.It was Joan who mentioned the tins baths and yes they really were what many of us used in the old days ..infront of our coal fires..in our little living rooms back in the 40's and 50's. Our parents must have been hardcore to live like that..with those V1s and V2s flying overhead too.In later years we went upmarket and started going to the Public Baths (Slipper baths?) in Belmont Road Chiswick..and no doubt some of our readers used the Baths at Brentford in Clifton Road.Anyway, time to cut the cake!! (don't we have fun on here!)-----------------------------------------------------Victor wondered about the small size of that bath..well that's the one we used. Crikey, I must be a bit bigger than my Dad was..even though he ate at the Chiswick Works canteen!------------------------------------------------------Now, who took that big piece!!------------------------------------------------------Wasn't Joan great sorting out that picture posting technology so quickly...well done Joan.---------------------------------------------------------Friday night I was taken to celebrate at Shepperton in that old Square and then afterwards at Edwinns. I got up so late today that I missed the Whitton St George's Day Parade..so instead want to Feltham!!So we need a google picture of that Adelaide Suburb..or a locality map that we can explore around.Must look at Joan's pictures again.So: reduce your pictures (or someone elses!) to a vertical size.of say 447 ish.Upload to your hosting site.Get the url ending in jpgAdd img src= to the frontAdd > to the backAdd < to the front.. and it should happen.It's like putting on handles on the URL front and backand wow the picture appears.Nigel was clever and added music to his posting..once again using handles and a recorded item. It could only be heard on IE and not MF.So, Joan was born in Fourth Cross Road in 1951, she lived there till she was 9yrs+...then moved to Feltham in 1960+and then went to Australia in mid sixties.

Jim Lawes ● 6615d

Does your sister live in Adelaide, or elsewhere in Australia? I looked through the Canal photos, absolutely brilliant. I even looked at the snow photos. I miss the snow, but not the freezing weather. Thank you, I will remain with this site. Bye for now. Joan

Joan Perry ● 6616d

There's no "allowed" about it Joan, just keep on with it. If people are disinterested they simply won't bother clicking on this topic. Of course a topic can get unwieldy and take forever to navigate through, so sometimes it's best to start afresh if there's something specific you want to explore, but that can be abused too.Picture sizes are best fixed in your photo program before uploading to 'photobucket', but it can be done there too.I'd be surprised if you don't have something like this in Adelaide, one of my sisters lives there too, I'll ask her - but of course it wouldn't be so interesting!Don't forget to look through the canal trip photos as well!

Nigel Moore ● 6616d

Is there a website for Feltham. I would love to view the old stomping grounds there. Regards Joan

Joan Perry ● 6616d

Nigel, I'm so sorry about the picture sizes. I was struggling for a while to post any. With the help of the forum, I mastered it. I'm sorry that i'm taking peoples time up on the forum. I just love coming here to look at what people post. We have nothing in Adelaide like this. It's wonderful. I've been viewing 'Brentford Revisited' photos. Absolutely great photos. Am I allowed to keep posting under this heading Nigel? Regards, Joan

Joan Perry ● 6616d

Wow Joan - that shows a lot of catch-up on posting techniques in very short order!I'm deeply impresssed.Probably the Australian influence of course.

Nigel Moore ● 6616d

This is a special hello from 'Australia Down Under'

Joan Perry ● 6616d

This is another view. This one has Coley Thermometer written on it. Hope you enjoy these pictures. Oh and the picture I posted earlier was a testing one, it was of Mum and June camping in Devon, as we did for many years.

Joan Perry ● 6616d

Coley Thermometer.This is a photo of dad's outside thermometer more than 50 years old. It proudly hangs outside at my brother's house.

Joan Perry ● 6616d

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Joan Perry ● 6616d

Good afternoon Jim. If you're able to could you email me the photos please. I am able to print them from home. I've just printed 56 pages from this Brentford site. I have a folder that I will call Jim and Brentford. You are Brentford! My email address is perrdise@bigpond.com If anyone would like to email me any other information, please feel free to. Jim I have a lot of down days, but your humour cheers me up.Your friend, Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6616d

I think I've calmed down a bit from laughing. I rang my sister June and tried to describe each photo to her. Well that was funny in itself. Now she's laughing so much. June and I are on the next plane over to come scrub your back. We are just lost for words - again. You've made us cry and laugh - again. June remembers the tin bath well. All 3 of us crammed in the bath. Then as we got bigger, we all went separately. Well that was okay for the older ones, but for me being the youngest, I was the last one to get in, and yes I got all the dirty water. No wonder I hated being the youngest. Have a great day. Now I can go get my breakfast. What a lovely 'surprise' to wake up to. I'm certainly awake now. Because June lives far away, I email everything to my daughter, Michelle, who also lives at Tailem Bend, and Michelle rings June to go around there to view and read everything. So your 'Tooshy' is being well observed today.To a wonderful character, we all say thank you for being you.

Joan Perry ● 6616d

I was laughing so much I forgot to say Have a great Birthday. Now who is your wonderful 'housekeeper' in the picture. HAPPY BIRTHDAY JIM.

Joan Perry ● 6616d

Oh Jim you made me laugh so much. You must be one hell of a character!! Just love the photos. What can I say, have a great day to you and your wonderful 'housekeeper'. Now don't let that towel slip!!!I'm still laughing.Regards, Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6616d

Happy Birthday Jim I think our tin bath was a little bigger

Victor Mullins ● 6616d

Happy Birthday Jim I think our tin bath was a little bigger

Victor Mullins ● 6616d

Happy birthday Jim! You are an essence of Isleworth and Brentford, a spirit that has not been encouraged in these modern times, but so essential to remind us of what was once so common and natural. Your are a man or our new unfolding times!

Duncan Walker ● 6616d

A Very Happy Birthday Jim,and many more to come.Hugh.

Hugh Telford ● 6616d

Happy Birthday from Gilly and I.My shout for dinner tonight if you haven’t already been booked up.

Nigel Moore ● 6616d

Happy birthday Mr Lawes, and I think what you have done on this subject is great.

Patrick James-Scott ● 6616d

Many happy returns Jim

Gareth Evans ● 6616d

Happy Birthday Jim!Best wishes from Chiswick.

John Todd ● 6616d

Happy Birthday Jim, bit chilly out there in that bath isn't it. I guess you need a wee dram or two as Gerry would suggest.

Colin Vaughan ● 6616d

Happy Birthday Jim

Jean Gilmore ● 6616d

Many happy returns Jim and what a lovely way to spend it ;-)

Paul Fisher ● 6616d

My housekeepers over the years have always prepared my bath and today it is no different! ;0)-------------------------------------------------"Is it ready yet?""Yes, you silly old sausage!"-------------------------------------------------I'm celebrating my birthday today..so I get extra hot water and a back scrub!!.

Jim Lawes ● 6616d

Oh Nigel, thank you also. It's great to see the photos on there. I love the computer, but little knowledge is as bad as no knowledge in my case. I will try again either later or tomorrow, as it's getting late in the evening. Practice makes perfect!! Those children in the Coley picture might still be around Brentford now. Their ages could range between 56 - 66+ years.

Joan Perry ● 6616d

Thank you so much Paul. I've been struggling for hours.Joan Perry.

Joan Perry ● 6616d

Bother. Obviously typing the tag means it tries to open something not there.Separating out -1st type

Nigel Moore ● 6616d

Bizarre. Try again -

Nigel Moore ● 6616d

Joan, having loaded your photos onto 'photobucket', you need to add tags to the url.In front of the url type They should then appear here successfully!Couldn't double check on Wandsworth, but I'll see if it works here:

Nigel Moore ● 6616d

Here you go Joan,I`m sure Jim can explain how to do it a lot clearer then I can.

Paul Fisher ● 6616d

http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s144/joan5075/th_Coleyparty.jpgWhat am I doing wrong? This is a photo of Coley Thermometers Christmas parties. This would have been around 1956/57 or 1957/58. June and I are the two front children dressed exactly the same. I'm (Joan) the blondie and June has black hair.Is there someone who could tell me what i've done wrong. I'll try again later. Terribly sorry. I'm a novice at this.

Joan Perry ● 6616d

More tears today, but joyous tears. Memories are a wonderful thing. Jim you have done an awesome job taking photos. Our families all love looking at them. I have just got off the phone to my sister. I was explaining these new photos to her and more memories came flooding back. The house on the corner was owned by Miss or Mrs Martin. I used to go there after school until mum finished work at the laundry. Mrs Martin was a very strict lady, demanding my manners. The house was beautiful inside, spotlessly clean.We attended Trafalgar Infant's/Primary School. There wasn't a printing factory there then. June started Trafalgar in 1953, Johnny in 1955 and myself 1956. We can remember the daily bottles of milk, with their silver foil tops. Can you remember that? The milk was so cold or frozen. There were 2 storey houses behind us. We remember a laneway. June can remember them better than me.In the Google picture we can see the new estate where the laundry once used to stand.My daughter Natalie has been trying to help me insert pictures into this post, but to no avail. So she has got me to put them in this way. Hope they work. Sorry for the inconvenience.This is Mr & Mrs Smith. Looking at our house, they lived in the one to the right of us. This was taken in their back garden.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/littledarlings/mrmrssmith.jpgThis a photo of mum holding me (Joan)out the back of 32 Fourth Cross Road. The coal bunker is to the right. The tree is where Johnny speared me with the garden fork in my foot.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/littledarlings/MumholdingJoan.jpgI'll have to try again to insert photos. Then I can put a couple more up. Do you remember having a bath in front of the fire in the old tin bath? Fun days??In the meantime if you Google Earth us, you will see where we live. June and Johnny and one of my daughters live at Tailem Bend. Tailem Bend runs along side the River Murray. The river is main our source of water. Tailem Bend is 1½ hours away from Adelaide, approx 100 kms. Google - 2 Park Terrace, Tailem Bend, South Australia. For me, I live on the outskirts of Adelaide, about 20 mins by car. Google - 44 Edmund Avenue, Paradise, South Australia. I back onto a high school oval. Several parts of Australia are having a severe drought. We in Adelaide have water restrictions. As you zoom into Tailem Bend you will see vast areas of empty land. We do not have water resources to facilitate large townships. Please keep any photos coming. We are loving it. If only Mum and Dad could be here. Now we ask why wasn't this done sooner? I have only had the computer for 6 months and still very much a novice. I hope I haven't bored you all. Best wishes to all you wonderful people. Especially Jim for the photos.Kind regards from June, Johnny and Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6617d

As Sarah suggested, a picture from the Google satellite shows all the houses and buildings surrounding Joan's home.. and place of birth.No 32 appears to be at the end of the text "London". Isn't it amazing what the internet can do for us all..as Colin said.

Jim Lawes ● 6617d

Joan.Your special response earlier today left me with tears too..such were your emotive words! We are enjoying a wonderful exchange of messages with you and your family.Yes this morning's opening forum messages were quite something! I even prayed before I started to eat my porridge!..and that's a new practice for me! Many Forum readers will have been moved by your story..and the fact that you are 10,000 miles away adds to our heartfelt desire to be helpful! Thanks to everyone for contributing. We'll have a google picture for you too...as Sarah suggested.I tend to overdo things a little when posting pictures on these Forums..so tell me when to stop!It's seems that there several missing buildings around No 32. The laundry has gone..and is now a new estate. Were there some cottages at the very end of your back garden?Did you go to School in Third Cross Road..next door to that printing factory "Pines"From your front door you will have seen Trafalgar Road across the way!----------------------------------------------------And you could see down the road towards the Staines Road.----------------------------------------------------Your place of birth looks in very good order....------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------God bless you.

Jim Lawes ● 6617d

I liked the bit when the 657 goes round Shepherds Bush Green to 'With a Song in my Heart', Two way Family Favourites with Jean Medcalf, remember that?Glad you liked it all Joan.

Colin Vaughan ● 6617d

Thank you Colin. Jim has already given me the link for that. My sister and I thoroughly enjoyed reminiscing the trolley bus years. But the music did it. It sounded like the series "On the Buses". Thank you for thinking of us.Kind regards Joan Perry.

Joan Perry ● 6617d

I would also suggest UTube.com. Key into the search box London Trolleybuses and there is about 9 minutes of scenes along the 657/667 route including Kew Bridge, Brentford Isleworth, Busch Corner, acompanied by suitable music of the time.

Colin Vaughan ● 6617d

Jim, is there a Google earth picture which can be posted for Joan?

Sarah Felstead ● 6617d

Thank you so much Colin for the Poem, how true it is. It's still hard to believe that there's such a person like Jim, who would take me under his wings and guide me 'home'. I can never thank him enough, words are few. And Colin it's people like you that pass on such wonderful words in a Poem. Do you know Colin, I've never wanted to go back to England but today i'm wishing I had. Now with this disease and shortened life span I will never get back, but through Jim I did go home today. I am at peace with my childhood. Oh sorry Colin, I'm still being a sook after seeing my 'home'. God Bless.

Joan Perry ● 6617d

Jim is a decent old stick Joan. I understand how you feel, as these Forums have opened up memories for me too. The Internet can be a force for good as well as bad.I wrote a little poem a while ago, about my work before I retired from GPO/BT. Two lines I think apertain to the Internet, just as well as the old Electro Mechanical Network that I helped to modernise.ALL HUMAN LIFE DID ONCE PASS THROUGH THESE WIRESA LIVING ENGINE FILLED BY LIFE'S DESIRES.IN DEAD OF NIGHT IT'S HEART IS PULSING STILL IT SEEMSA SINGLE LONELY CALL PAST THROUGHLOST IN THE DARKNESS LIKE OUR DREAMS.Now such sentiments in modern form can apply to the Internet.What Jim has done is to make another Human being happy, so whilst many bad things happen on the Internet, good also takes its place, as it does in life, well done Jim!

Colin Vaughan ● 6617d

I can't see what I'm typing for tears!! How can I ever thank you, your generosity, your kindness to do this for me, strangers to you. My heart is beating so fast i can't type. You are one awesome gentleman. I was born in that house in 1951. My brother and sister weren't. This is MY house. In the backgarden is where my darling brother put a garden fork through my foot, well I did dare him. I'm stunned. I rang my sister but she's not home. She lives 1½ hours away. It was when I saw the sign Fourth Cross Road, that was me gone. Tears flooding down my face. Then the 'tease' I'm scrolling down, thinking it's been knocked down, then more tears when I saw No.32. Boy has it changed. My sister will have to find a photo of what it looked like back then. My mum worked at Twickenham Model Laundry, but from what I can see it's gone. I so remember the bike shop. I think that's where I used to buy sweets from before it was a bike shop. Also there used to be a tobacco shop further along in a row of houses that was pushed back a little more than the others. Jim I can't thank you enough. How can someone repay the kindness you have displayed. I emailed it through to my 3 daughters and they've all responded emotional for me too. The narrow streets haven't changed. Oh my daughter is going to frame them for me. i'll print them out and she'll frame them. oh Jim this is so exciting. I and my family thank you. Thank you. Deepest regards to a kind man.Your friend, Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6618d

Twickenham is a lovely place...and many of us visit it or pass through often. There are houses and cottages of all types and styles and genarally all pleasing to the eye. Passing through the avenue of shops and stores from the town centre..and then passing Twickenham Green... the Fourth Cross Road soon comes into view!-------------------------------------------------------Lots of cars parked..even at 4pm!-------------------------------------------------------Is it up this far? No, the violet door cottage was once a grocery shop said Brian..the man I met..(and who lives next door to the home we are looking for!)--------------------------------------------------------"Is it back this way?" "Yes just up there on the left..but stop and look at the 1840 plaque first!""--------------------------------------------------------What's that place..established in 1960...ah "that's a motorcycling place...spare parts and all that"...and along here on the left is the home we are looking for!--------------------------------------------------------No 32...they all seem to have new porches and windows.........................................................More tomorrow!!

Jim Lawes ● 6618d

Joan Won't keep you long!

Jim Lawes ● 6619d

Sarah. Thank You so much for the house prices. I can't thank you enough and how grateful my family is. I was straight on the phone to my sister, June, to tell her. We lived at 32 Fourth Cross Road, our dad paid 1,500 pounds in 1950. My mouth dropped when I saw today's prices. I have printed out every bit of information I have received so far and have put it in a folder, that folder is growing everyday.Sarah, again I thank you for your great information.Kind RegardsJoan Perry.

Joan Perry ● 6620d

Jim, I thank you so much. You are so kind to do that for our family. Just on another note. I emailed Coley Thermometers in Glasgow and they responded quickly. I am still going through Peter Rutt's website, it's awesome. I am amazed that so many people have had an input into Coley Thermometers. This has been an incredible journey for us all.Regards Joan Perry.

Joan Perry ● 6620d

Joan - have you seen the house prices?http://www.nethouseprices.com/index.php?con=sold_prices_street_detail&locality=RICHMOND+UPON+THAMES&town=TWICKENHAM&street=FOURTH+CROSS+ROAD&postcode=TW25EL&search_radius=150&cCode=EW&year=&house_style=&house_age=&house_type=&find_postcode=&find_locality=&find_town=&find_street=&eastingToSearch=51470&northingToSearch=17260&pcsaCode=TW2

Sarah Felstead ● 6620d

Joan,Yes I'm more than pleased to take some photos for you. It may be a few days.I'm very pleased that your Coley Thermometers topic has aroused such interest..and that many have responded so helpfully. Don't forget Peter Rutts website!Best wishes to you all. Any Brentford reminiscences?

Jim Lawes ● 6620d

Good afternoon.I have a HUGE request Jim. Do you know a person with a digital camera that would go to my two houses that we once lived at to take a photo of what they look like now. We have never been back to England and will never be able to, especially now I have MND. I do not want you to get yourselves into trouble by doing this. But here are the two addresses.32 Fourth Cross Rd, Twickenham and236 High Street, Feltham.If it's okay then please email the pics to perrdise@bigpond.comSincere thanks and with much gratitude.Joan Perry.

Joan Perry ● 6621d

William thank you so much for the Bryant information. It's been an amazing trip down memory lane for our family. I just wish dad was alive to re-visit this info with us all. Again I thank you William.Sincere thanks. Joan Perry.perrdise@bigpond.com

Joan Perry ● 6621d

coley thermometers, was owned by the bryant family,the sons of the founder, peter and john were the last owners, l think john lives in wokingham now.

William Micheal Read ● 6621d

Wonderful memories Jim, I can almost smell the aroma of the Gasworks as I head up to Griffin Park having alighted from a 657.

Colin Vaughan ● 6622d

Edward,Here is the trolleybus map for the 1950s and 1960's showing the 655: Hamersmith to Half Acre then up to Hanwell657: Shepherds Bush Chiswick, Brentford, Isleworth to Hounslow Heath (Wellington Road)667 Hammersmith, Chiswick, Brentford, Busch Corner, Twickenham to Hampton Court!They were all quiet narrow vehicles... not like today's wide, noisy, roaring horrors..which do much damage to the roads too. Rant, rant..!

Jim Lawes ● 6622d

Here is the present day view across the road..the London Road..to the "Coley site" with the ruins of Brentford Town Station in the background.----------------------------------------------------------And across the road, June and Joan, your father probably popped into the George and Dragon pub for a swift pint for one shilling and sixpence before he wandered home! (Red Barrel may have been the brand!)--------------------------------------------------------The website you mentioned was an interesting one (Build UK??)..but you mustn't leave us ..we are short of correspondents!! We have Neil in Sydney, and Victor in Melbourne..and you must be nearby somewhere!!Best wishes to you both.

Jim Lawes ● 6622d

Thank you for your kind words Edward..as always..and yes don't we have fun on this Forum digging up the old stories and images of Brentford's past.We are all learning something all the time.Joan and June would find Peter Rutt's unique Brentford website..if they have no been there already. You never know Joan and June could find themselves making contact with some of their father's old work colleages at Coleys.Where did the family live one wonders! We may know the road!!Try this URL..it's another "Gateway to Brentford"http://www.brentford.inuk.comEdward: Trolleybus poles in the pipeline!!

Jim Lawes ● 6622d

Jim,Thanks for taking us down memory lane, I am just old enough to remember the trolley bus but I didn't take much notice of them when my Mum & Dad took me to Hammersmith but I do remember the man with the long pole having to unhook the power rods so the bus could go back along it's route or whatever it did. Isn't it funny how seeing Brentford on the screen and looking at the railway bridge by the canal not many people know how big the rail yards were or even that they existed south of the High Street. Keep the history going before it is all forgotten please.

Edward Fitzgerald ● 6622d

Oh My God John. Thank you so much. We can't tell you how moving that was watching the video on uTube. For the 9+ minutes it went for we were screaming with excitement all the time. Our children and grandchildren will have some wonderful memories thanks to you, Nigel (hope he's risen for the day), NFJ Batchelor and Miss Green. We are still in shock. The newspaper article was great information. Could I take up a bit of your time explaining who gave me the initial link. I (Joan) have Motor Neurone Disease and I am a member of the UK site, BuildUK. A member named John (who is a fellow sufferer) lives at Brentford. I posted a question on the 'BuildUK' forum and he responded with the Brentford website. And since then it's just been a rollercoaster. If only you knew how excited us two ladies are. We left England for Australia in 1966. We'll be thinking of you both the next time we put a shrimp on the barbie!!!With thanks.Joan and June.

Joan Perry ● 6622d

The booklet that is providing much of the information on this thread was published by Kent Service Ltd for the local Council. Amongst the acknowledgements for "great" help was Brentford & Chiswick Public Relations Officer NFJ Batchelor and the Borough Librarian Miss F M Green.Here is the 1949 write up about Coleys:

Jim Lawes ● 6622d

Ladies,You will be pleased to hear that I have recovered from last evening's powerful Valpolicella, but I cannot speak for Nigelwho lives far away at Brentford's Canalside. He'll surface later in the day no doubt.Yes that picture of Coley's premises was brought back memories and it appeared in a 1949 Brentford and Chiswick Council publication about local industries. On the right hand side of the scene you can see a part of the old Brentford Town Station..which has long been demolished and the railway line to Brentford Docks uplifted.Have you seen this YouTube film of the local trolleybuses in the 1960's? Your father would have know the background music well..and the sight of the 657 and 667 trolleybuses which would have passed Coley's. Watch out for the scene at 00.41 seconds. This shows a trolleybus going over Brentford Bridge..and then under the Brentford Town Station bridge...all within 200 yards of Coley's.Copy and Paste...(and there is more to follow! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeItlv6Ry-s

Jim Lawes ● 6622d

Wow!!! What a meal,wish we could of been there.We have just had our breakfast and ready to start the day. Sincere thanks for the photos and information, it was great to re-live the memories, it was how we remembered it. We sincerely thank you very much and look forward to any further photos or information.June and Joan from down under.

Joan Perry ● 6623d

NigelYou cheeky blighter! That fish starter was much too much for me to polish off...no wonder I looked depressed at having to face the main course as well!! Normally I'm jolly on Fridays ;0(You Brentfordians eat just far too much...and monster portions at La Rossetta and the Albany Fish and Chip shop are not for the faint hearted!!Good news though ladies..I managed to snatch the booklet back from Nigel...lest he posted the Coley information for you upside down or something!More tomorrow!! Maybe other have information too.

Jim Lawes ● 6623d

Afraid you'll have to wait girls. Jim came around for the book instead of trusting to me to post the page, had a few beers, decided on dinner, didn't let the choices confuse him too much - ate both lots, then decided tomorrow would be soon enough ...

Nigel Moore ● 6623d

Thank you for your quick response Jim. We look forward to seeing the picture.With regards from June and Joan.

Joan Perry ● 6623d

Hi there and welcome to the Forum.Coley's,I believe, was located on the north side of the London Road..near the Brentford Canal Bridge....somewhere near where the Royal Mail delivery office is currently located.We have posted a picture of the factory on this Forum some time back....I'll try and retrieve it. (Nigel, it's in that old booklet I think..can you scan and post it?)

Jim Lawes ● 6623d