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LynnThe ICG hasn't withdrawn a candidate.  We are a locally-based community action group and have never traditionally fought general elections.  We simply fielded a candidate in 2005 to test the water and to see what appetite there was for our brand of community politics at a parliamentary level.  The honest answer was not very much.For an independent to win or even to mount a serious challenge at a general election, with the public mind being concentrated on the battle between the big parties for weeks beforehand through endless news bulletins, newspaper features and party political broadcasts, is a very tall order indeed.Martin Bell did it in Tatton, but whether even he would have done so without the Labour and Lib Dem candidates withdrawing is highly debatable.  Dr. Taylor in Kidderminster seems otherwise to be the exception who proves the rule.  Even high-profile minority candidates such as Reginald Keys and Robert Kilroy-Silk did not come close.John Connelly is quite correct when he says that at general elections people vote for who they want to form a government, or at least vote against the party which they don't want to form a government.  We have recognised this as an unfortunate truth, and thus have decided not to field a candidate so as not to split the vote against Ann Keen, whose removal we consider to be an essential prerequisite to restoring honesty, integrity and openness to our local politics.We recognise that certain people will seize on this eagerly as "evidence" of a pro-Conservative ideological bias on our part and, despite the fact that they are wrong, we have no problem with this.  Indeed the fact that there are those who seem to believe that the basic political morality of a candidate should not be considered an issue when we cast our vote, or at least less of an issue than the candidate's party allegiance, in our view simply serves to highlight the extent of the malaise and demonstrates precisely what it is we are up against.

Phil Andrews ● 6595d

JohnShout as much as you like my friend, I'm not in the least bit precious about it (although you can do bold text on here too if you know the code).You have made a good case for not voting Conservative, but also in the most part for not voting Labour either.  The Liberal Democrats might be the answer to some of your issues, but I would guess not all of them.  Is there a party out there which is likely to represent your own views at the next election?I know people vote for political parties at general elections, and that national elections are about national issues.  If I hadn't realised that before the last election I would certainly have cottoned on within minutes of the ballot boxes being opened!Personally speaking I have never yet voted either Conservative or Labour at a general election.  That said I am not a person who cares much for ideology, probably as a result of psychological damage caused whilst spending the best years of my younger life engaging in endless debates, schisms and sometimes even fights about the correct position to take on carp farming in Vanuatu.  Nevertheless I have views on important issues like everybody else.  I was and remain vehemently opposed to the war in Iraq and to US/UK Middle East policy in general, and I accept what you say about the likelihood of a Conservative government continuing to pursue the same policies as Bliar and his government have pursued so enthusiastically.However as well as being a private individual I am also a ward councillor for Isleworth, with constituents, and an Executive member at the London Borough of Hounslow, with a responsibility to hundreds of thousands of local residents.  These are the people who will suffer as a consequence of the Keens' childish, unprincipled and completely unsustainable "now we will, now we won't" policy of co-operation/non co-operation with the local authority.  I sincerely believe that a local level, these people will benefit from having Members of Parliament who are prepared to work with the democratically elected council for the greater good of the whole community, whether those MPs be Conservatives, Lib Dems, Greens, Respect, UKIP or whatever, irrespective of whether they agree or disagree with their views on major national and international issues.I very much doubt whether the outcome of the next general election will be determined by the results in Brentford & Isleworth and Feltham & Heston.  If it is then the government which emerges from it, whatever its complexion, will not last very long in any case and will not be in a position to drive radical change for better or worse.Remember, the ICG is only advising a non-Labour vote in two constituencies, not throughout the country.  We are not specifically advising a Conservative vote or a Liberal Democrat vote, and I doubt very much whether we could.  Our membership is variously made up of traditional Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat, Green and non- voters.  We only advise a non-Labour vote on ethical, not ideological grounds.The continued success of the ICG demonstrates that principles can unite people irrespective of ideological differences.  Dare I suggest that the HIA experience demonstrates the same?  You have found common cause on the council with two former Liberal Democrats as well as with Vanessa, who supported the war in Iraq as passionately as you opposed it.  This doesn't seem to have stopped you from working together, neither should it.There is no logical basis to your reaction to our decision not to contest.  To suggest that this ipso facto makes us Conservatives is irrational and absurd, and frankly undeserving of a man of your intellect.  In the light of our experiences at the hands of the Keens, do you seriously contend that we have some kind of duty to them to split the votes of their opposition and help them back in to office?

Phil Andrews ● 6599d

Phil, in national elections it is the party with the most seats that wins. The MP's do as they are told, and it is unfortunate if the local MP is a poor servant of the constituency. Most people vote for PARTIES not people. Sadly, as the devolved assembly elections proved, this pattern is as strong as ever.National policies are important, and the quality of the local MP in this context is as relevant as the size of his/her backside.Some issues:1) The last Tory government effectively ended cheap social housing by the twin policies of selling off council housing and slashing new build. Hounslow's last units were built, if I remember correctly, back in 1989. Labour has not retrieved the position, but I do not believe the Conservatives at a national level are any more interested in the underclass faced with poor housing.I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR A PARTY COMMITTED TO MASSIVE EXPANSION OF SOCIAL HOUSING2) The Council Tax, which many regard as a fundamental problem today, was brought in by the Tories to replace the disastrous poll tax. Labour has prevaricated on reform, but I see no new ideas from the Tories today.I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR A PARTY COMMITTED TO ENDING THE COUNCIL TAX AND REPLACING IT WITH A FAIRER ALTERNATIVE3) The Health Service was on its knees under the Tories. Labour has spent more but invested poorly. I don't believe the Tories will do any better.I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR A PARTY COMMITTED TO USING HEALTH EXPENDITURE MORE EFFECTIVELY - WITHOUT CUTS4) The Tories introduced policies such as Grant Maintained Schools that caused divisions within the community. Labour's education record may not have lived up to expectations, but the policies have, I believe, been less divisive.I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR A PARTY THAT STATED IT WOULD INTRODUCE A PERIOD OF STABILITY INTO THE EDUCATION SYSTEM5) Iraq was a disaster for Labour. However, I have no doubt we would be there now had the government of the day been Tory.I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR A PARTY COMMITTED TO GETTING OUT OF IRAQ ASAPOther people have their own views and are entitled to vote for a party that they feel most reflects these.Finally, on Heathrow both parties have consistently supported expansion in the national interest. The reality is that the £5000 just wasted on local campaigning might as well have been spent on toilet paper for all the difference it will make to Brown or Cameron. Apologies for SHOUTING!

John Connelly ● 6599d