"TonyYou make rather a lot of assumptions."-------------Do I? Let's go through them then-------------The statement I made in November has been lifted without any reference to the wider context of the debate in which it was made and twisted, perhaps inadvertently, into a refusal on our part to co-operate with New Labour's democratically elected representatives.----------------It was you that cut and pasted your statement verbatim,how have I twisted it,I remembered it but certainly didn't twist it...You and you alone wrote it.----------------In fact if you are at all familiar with Hounslow and its recent political history, and I'm guessing that you are, you will be aware that in actual fact the reverse is the case - it is New Labour whose stated policy it is not to co-operate with ICG councillors, not the other way around. Remember they even went happily into opposition rather than contemplate revisiting this policy.------------Given the evidence,I respect them for that.------------My comments referred not to democratically elected members, but the whole New Labour culture which has permeated the council's operation at all levels, from the mentality which informs the bureaucracy through to the satellite groups and bogus community groups which combine to form the whole complex infrastructure of our local government. It is this self-serving industry which I and my colleagues are pledged to eradicate, and to replace with structures which are designed to serve the community rather than the regime.--------------Do you have proof that this is the case,or is this how your group perceive it to be,it's all too easy to throw mud.After all I could say that I think the recent allotment of £1.5 million to estate residents (for which you claimed credit) is an attempt to buy votes,I don't, but do you see what I mean?--------------The question of whether Dave Hughes is an official spokesperson for New Labour is a moot point which was addressed in my previous posting. He is a well-known and well-connected member of the New Labour Party in Hounslow. Local New Labour officers have protested on this forum that he is not a spokesperson for the party, but have declined to distance themselves or their party from some of the more absurd comments which he has made, such as the allegation about the Hounslow Homes Management Review being a precursor for the privatisation of our housing stock. It is reasonable to assume that they use Mr. Hughes as a useful idiot, one who can be deployed to spread wild and false rumours about the intentions of the administration which they can later distance themselves from if needs be.-------------Right Phil so it's reasonable for me to assume that as you were very well connected with the National Front,that what you say now is really the National Front speaking by proxy?Once again I don't think this to be the case.-------------It is at best ill-informed, and at worst disingenuous, to suggest that it is the ICG which discourages dialogue with New Labour rather than the other way around.-------------Phil,it was you that wrote that you wanted to eradicate the last vestiges of New Labour...that sort of makes it impossible for them to give you a cuddle doesn't it? I'm sure there have been many other instances prior to that posting were you have made your feelings towards them quite plain,no it is you who are being disingenous.I'm reminded of the schoolboy who pokes the boy in front repeatedly with a ruler,then when he reacts,claims that "He hit me sir".----------- There is no contradiction between opposing a party through the democratic process and recognising and working with its elected members along the way. -----------So where is your problem with New Labour then,it seems they do exactly that?----------- You are stoning the messenger, Tony.-----------Particularly bad choice of words on your behalf methinks.I'm not trying nor ever will try to stone anyone,just trying to make sense of it all.
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