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Duhhh wrong thread Paul. I very much doubt that Virk is my friend but its not for me to decide his fate as he has yet to face a panel of his peers unfortunatly in larger democratic parties it takes time to fully expell a memeber as they do have rights to justify their actions and the right to a fair hearing it would be wrong of me to state my feelings untill I have heard the full case that he may wish to put forward, but at the end of the day he is not up in front of me as really I am not that involved in the party politics as I once was, I know this is very hard for you to take in and you really really wish I was the voice of the party, I can see you miss me at the council Ha Ha but I have a life outside of politics which is just as fullfilling and rewarding as I can work with communities with out the politics, my politics are strictly kept seperate from my community work. The expence business of MPs I think every party has some explaining to do, dont forget Paul you and the tories made a big play about expences before the last council election and as soon as you got in you doubled the the rates you are paid..the problem we can all agree on is that no-one or party want to make any descion on what they should be given there have been many attempts from the councill to throw the descion to an outside body or to central goverment because you are damned if you do and damned if you dont. The rule I have used is how the preception of an expence would look like to others is it a justifble expence if not then dont claim, hence I never claimed for petrol for a scooter while at the council I also provided my own wreaths with suitable war poems for remebrance days and gave donations to the local services charities most of what I was given by the council went back into the community projects I support what have you done Paul???There is a real need to get the problem sorted not only for parliament but for councils as well. What are you doing to sort the problem out?This recent expences row is more about politics of opportunism where if you look hard enought you will find the links back to the tories for the leaks, the tories know they can afford to loose the expences and a number of seats if it triggers an election, maybe in reality we are looking at an internal coup by civil servents in order to change the goverment, I sure Andrews will like the thought of this, it will be intresting how the history of these times will be written.Sorry if its not what you are looking for as an answer to your question but I am no longer in the business of sorting the problems and mess you will leave behind when you are finally booted off the council.

Dave Hughes ● 6211d