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My, my, you really have been through it, haven't you Fraser?According to your various postings on this forum and on ChiswickW4 you're in a mixed race marriage, with mixed race kids, you're a white Muslim who goes on pilgrimages (yet seems to reserve his main scorn for other Muslims), and you even have an Arab in-law you hates the Labour Party more than he hates the BNP. Not only that, but you know Hindus who vote BNP!Did I read somewhere that you were present at the 7/7 bombings and have high level Intelligence contacts in the Middle East (or perhaps that was my imagination, rather than yours?).You also claim to have taught in the South African townships and fought apartheid (yet agree with Mrs Thatcher that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist); in addition to which you "helped to dig the hole for 5 and 7 year old sisters burnt in their shack (allegedly by a branch of the ANC)".And to top it all, you say you have shrapnel in your hand, partial deafness, 18 inches of scars and treatment for PTSD - all as a result of 20 years' work trying to protect people in conflict zones.Fraser, please don't start telling me about your exploits in World War 1, because I am already humbled. You are right, I am "the bigot who condones political violence" and I will now sincerely reflect on the error of my ways. I admire you tremendously Fraser, your post has given me a thoroughly deserved ticking off, and I will now leave this thread to you and your enlightened colleagues Andy Webb and Colin Murphy.P.S.:- You once stated that "from previous and private correspendonce, I know Mr Atkinson is no racist." I agree with you so much. The fact that he protested bitterly on the EalingW5 forum when police officers were barred from joining the BNP, does not in any way make him a racist.

Robin Taylor ● 5990d

Nice try, Robin. There’s seemingly nothing you won’t invert, subvert and pervert in pursuit of your personal vendettas, nothing so sacred that can’t be smeared. The histrionics and mock indignation fool no-one though, given your repeated smearing, veiled threats and wishing harm to others on these forums. As for a public condemnation of apartheid, I’d have thought going over there to help its victims would’ve been condemnation enough. I also presumed it’d be common knowledge apartheid was evil, brutal, unjust and inhumane – and in no need of trite condemnation from me. This may be news to you, but critiquing one, lesser-known side of an argument is not condoning the other. Critiquing your superficial knowledge and unflagging use of the race card is not condoning apartheid. This would be obvious to most people but apparently not to you – the bigot who condones political violence.What exactly did you do over there in apartheid South Africa, by the way? You criticise me for going out there to help but seemingly didn’t go yourself. If I’m worthy of criticism, you must be worthy of more. ...And I played no part in bringing apartheid to an end – I just went there to try and help people, hence teaching in a township. I was saddened by the injustice, wanted to do something and was lucky enough to have an anti-apartheid campaigner help me out there. What did you do over there again?As for my views on “black kids’ heads being pumped with bullets”, they’re just the same as with any child being shot - the colour, class and context doesn’t matter. This would be obvious to most people, but apparently not to you - the bigot who condones political violence.And no need to take my word for the tactics “some black South Africans engaged in during the apartheid years” – the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s findings did a pretty good job. This would be known to anyone with more than a superficial knowledge of apartheid’s evil, but apparently not to you – the bigot who condones political violence.[Ironic you mentioned “some” black South Africans though. This was the point I was making when you asked “what options were left” for the ANC – hence my singling out the “violent wing of the ANC”, as opposed to the ANC in its totality. It was only a minority of the ANC which practiced violence – a fact apparently unknown to you when seemingly condoning MK’s routine torture, indiscriminate murder and human rights violations.]

Fraser Pearce ● 5990d