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Goodbye Green & pleasant land

“The number of people from overseas living in the UK reached a record high of 6.7 million last year, the Office for National Statistics has said. The ONS said one in 11 people in the UK had been born abroad. Nearly 25% of all births in England and Wales in 2008 were to foreign-born women - another record. The statistics agency also projected that the UK's population would increase by nearly 10 million in the next 25 years”England will soon resemble Singapore with 60% from one ethnic group and the rest made up of newcomers, with Parks and gardens concreted over to make way for high rise blocks of Flats.

Harley Buckner ● 5987d16 Comments

"England will soon resemble Singapore with 60% from one ethnic group and the rest made up of newcomers, with Parks and gardens concreted over to make way for high rise blocks of Flats."This is where I got the idea that you might object to the 40% of 'newcomers' of diverse ethnicities. Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick and you are in support of this proportional balance.

Holly Hodges ● 5981d

Nicely put, Philip.  Not sure if Mr Buckner will understand, though!! ;-)

Manria Kaur ● 5984d

Oh for the green and pleasant land of old when a Englishman could wonder abroad meeting exotic peoples in strange lands whilst marvelling  at the lands wealth and beauty; kill the poor buggers steal their land and call it our own, transfer its wealth and bring it home to blighty. The days when we could ask jolly foreigner to die in their thousands to protect the Crowns land that was once theirs.We need a return to those days so the descendants of the Romans, Saxons, Norsemen  and French can lord it in this land of the Celt and the Pic peoples and a new kingdom shall flourish with its Greek/German/Russian at the helm and we shall again rule the waves.In Irish the name Walsh = Foreigner or Welsh after the emigrants fleeing the invasions of England and coming through the Welsh ports.I know just how you feel Harley :-)

Philip Walsh ● 5984d

http://walkawayblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/if-britain-were-village-of-100-people.html

Phil Andrews ● 5985d

Look... What I'm saying is that building more and more roads and more and more houses without any management of the figures is unsustainable.Our Government (somehow that word seems inappropriate) fails to put a figure on the number of people who can comfortably live in this country.

Harley Buckner ● 5985d

The more roads creates more cars argument goes:- more, better roads means more people are enticed to drive- the journey by car is faster and more pleasant with the new road or by-pass or motorway lane- then, with more traffic, as constriction and queues and traffic jams appear, that route is less attractive so people opt for alternatives (train, don't travel, etc.)Let's try to make this work for more homes.- there are more houses built in the UK- the mix of demand and supply changes so the price of houses drops- people have less positive equity in their house- people feel less wealthy so they stop spending, so the economy slowsEr, that's it.Right, what was the point of the comparison again?

Alan Clark ● 5985d

I don't follow??? I don't object to anyone on ethnic grounds. Why would I?My mother was foreign and I have the dubious claim of sneaking into a country illegally (all be it for a few days) that country being Singapore.What would make me feel better would be if we halted immigration immediately to let things settle down a bit  (that's from all countries so let's not do the race thing) while we have a review of how many people this country can support.There is an argument which says more roads means more cars... the same can be said that more homes means more people. We need to be vary careful on this one.

Harley Buckner ● 5985d

That's so funny! I always think that Brentford looks a bit like Singapore, but I'm thinking of the corridor of highrise office buildings and private flats along the flyover.Harley, I was born and raised 'overseas' but I live in an ordinary terraced house and haven't procreated. I'm not sure if you would object to me on ethnic grounds. I'm pretty sure I'm not exotic enough on my own to instigate any sort of Singapore-style diversity, and I think there are a lot of people like me here. I hope that makes you feel better.

Holly Hodges ● 5985d

All I know about Harley is that he was a Councillor in Feltham, his sky was blue as he was a Tory, but he disagreed with either them or the whole concept of being a Councillor and wandered off - well resigned within a year of being elected.  Only a local Tory could give you the full insight I suspect.

Ruth Cadbury ● 5986d

Tell me about it o_0 I go to some even stranger forums! ;)x

Stephanie Kitsune ● 5987d

You go to some strange parties Steph.  :o)

Phil Andrews ● 5987d

Ok, I've been biting my tongue with this for a few days now but.. Who are you and what colour is the sky on your planet? It's sort of like when you go to a party and some rogue nutter just wanders in off the street on his way home from the nearest pub and starts trying to cook crisps on the barbeque and put marmite on your cat to see what it'll do..Very odd.

Stephanie Kitsune ● 5987d

I can't deny it and applaud your rapier wit Phil.

Harley Buckner ● 5987d

I see no correlation either Phil.

Harley Buckner ● 5987d

"Have I missed some obvious correlation between a person's ethnicity and the amount of space they take up?"That's a very sensitive question for someone like Harley (who, let's face it, takes up quite a lot of space).

Robin Taylor ● 5987d

HarleyHave I missed some obvious correlation between a person's ethnicity and the amount of space they take up?

Phil Andrews ● 5987d