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Lib Dems' policies don't stand up to scrutiny.

A curious feature of the local Lib Dem candidate's literature and campaign is his avoidance of any mention of the Lib Dems' national policies. He is essentially campaigning as a local Green candidate as if he were running for election to Hounslow Council and not to the House of Commons. But of course he is runing for election to Hounslow Council as well !Now that we know a little more about the Lib Dems' national policies (or lack of them), maybe we can understand why:To paraphrase Harold Macmillan: the Liberal Democrtas have some good policies and some original ones but the trouble is  that the good policies are stolen from the other parties and the original ones are simply barmy or unaffordable.For example, how can the Lib Dems take everyone earning less than £10,000 a year out of the income tax net when the cost of this will be £17 billion and Britain is Broke ? It is a nice idea but unaffordable at the present time.The Lib Dems have advocated an amnesty for over 600,000 illegal immigrants at a time when all parties agree that the country is struggling to cope with the millions of legal immigrants who have come into the country since Labour opened the gates in 1997 ?Why did Nick Clegg say that 80% of immgrants come from the EU when in fact the true figure is nearer 40% ?Lib Dems like Labour voted for the Treaty of Lisbon without honouring their pledges to hold a referendum on such an important issue. The Lib Dems, like Labour, believe in high taxes and high state spending and have no credible plans to cut the deficit. The Lib Dems are long term supporters of Britain joining the euro.This is a very unpopular policy the Lib Dems try to avoid mentioning. If this policy were implemented, Britain would lose control of its monetary policy and ultimately its fiscal and taxation policies and become a mere province of the Federal European Union. If this Lib Dem policy were implemented, it  would make Britain partially responsible for the debts of Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy and all of the euro zone,  make British exports more expensive and cost hundreds of thousands of British jobs. The Lib Dems policies to eliminate bonuses for directors and limit bonuses for emplyees to £2500 would destroy the leading position of the City of London in world banking and finance and cost hundreds of thousands of British jobs. The Lib Dems advocate higher taxes on air travel and air freight. The Lib Dems advocate road pricing which would price poor people off the roads and be unfair on people in rural areas. The hugely expensive CCTV network required for road pricing would threaten civil liberties. The Lib Dems have no experience of Government as there has not been a Liberal Government for nearly one hundred years. The Lib Dems are deeply divided on many policy issues. There are big differences between Left and Right of the Party and between Parliamentary Party and the membership.The Lib Dems lack credible policies on the economy, the national debt, national security, defence, energy, law and order, education and the NHS.   It simply doesn't make sense to vote Lib Dem.The Financial Times has endorsed the Conservatives for the first time since 1987. That makes sense.

David Giles ● 5579d5 Comments

You sound more like a UKIP member. Who was it that fudged the issue of the Lisbon treaty?  That's right it was the Tories.Look, we elect MPs to do this work for us. I don't appreciate politicians spending money they don't have to in order to do the job they were elected to perform on our behalf.  This is why we have elections, this is the point of having democratic mandates. We don't need a referendum on matters like this. The Lisbon treaty made great sense in many ways.  I agree some of it wasn't right and not having an elected president was frankly insane, but in the main this has created a level playing field for all EU27 states and it has done many beneficial things. I undenstand you 'Little Britain' Tories have issues with fairness but that's your problem.You can grouse all you like about Lib Dems not opposing the treaty but what is it to you?  Why should every party oppose it?  People want options. You have the ability and the right to vote for xenophobic parties that misrepresent the EU issue as you like. So why don't you stick to them and vote for them and let those of us that take no issue with vote as we please.  Stop grousing when it's pretty clear that there are many people in this country who are happy to vote for a pro-Eu party.  Get over it.As for your issue about policy stealing.  What rot. I find if an utter arrogance and totally hypocritical for any Tory to lecture Lib Dems on stealing polices for when you look at the Tories' 2010 manifesto and the sections it has blatantly stolen from the 2005 Lib Dem manifesto (PARTICULARLY ON CIVIL LIBERTIES) I could crease laughing. The Lib Dem amnesty on immigration is sensible. Germany did it and it increased tax revenues by close to 3 billion Euros a year.  How is it not logical for such people not to contribute legally and provide some level of understanding of who exactly is here and address the issue of people that have been here long term. How can we set caps on immigrant entry if we don't knwo what and whom we have here?  We don't even have an exit process.  And on the matter of immigration people like you need hauled around various parts of Europe to ask English people what on earth they are doing there. English people have filled the Algarve, the Dordogne and southern Spain and wrecked them all.  You can't have it all your own way. Emmigration, tax havens, second homes, and being non-dom 'when it suits you' appears to be the habit of a lifetime of Tories.  You seem to play victim on the issue of immigration way to easily and it sickens me. You say 'The Lib Dems advocate higher taxes on air travel and air freight,' and the problem with that is what?  Why is this not sensible?  I bet you yourself enjoyed the six days of peace we had in Brentford and here you are grousing."The Lib Dems lack credible policies on the economy, the national debt, national security, defence, energy, law and order, education and the NHS"I guess I must have imagined what the Institute of Fiscal Studies said about Lib Dem economic policy being the most sound of the big three. I guess I also imagined what the OECD said about The Tories tax and expenditure plans being nothing short of economic suicide.I must have been hallucinating also when the military top brass in this country backed the Lib Dem policy on a full CSR on defence spending and laid into the Tories just 10days ago.'The Lib Dems policies to eliminate bonuses for directors and limit bonuses for emplyees to £2500 would destroy the leading position of the City of London in world banking and finance and cost hundreds of thousands of British jobs.'Considering the international move to police banking bonuses and better regulate the industry your comments are void and pointless. I suggest you read more widely than the Daily Mail and the Express to form a narrow world view.

Conal Stewart ● 5577d