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There is nothing like a bit of analysis to bring out the glory of a trend and to emphasise high performance. its what sports commentating is built on.We are proud to have the most prolific poster on the TW8 forum. More prolific than anyone else - not even the banned contributors of old. This contribution has pushed the volume and frequency of TW8 posts up enormously.Here's some stats:Of the recent 80 threads, some 12 have been initiated by our most prolific poster.The content rate, per thread, is a whopping 55% - that is, this one contributer added, on average, 55% of the posts onto their own threads.This peaked at contributing 75% of the content of one thread and was never less than adding 33% (one third) of the posts.The peak thread sits (currently) at 155 posts - a decent level not usual seen other than on the W4 forum. Almost unique for TW8. Even if 96 (61%) of these posts where self generated.The best stat is the 'answering your own post' series of posts - currently running at a staggering 8 consecutive posts. That means no-one else added anything to the thread except the thread initiator - for 8 consecutive messages. That is legend like behaviour. Especially when one considers that this was achieved twice on the same thread. That means 10% of posts to this huge thread were covered in two short bursts of posting. Marvellous.Do the editors of the forum offer prizes for effort - coz this is one candidate for that prize. We look forward to the word count analysis and the measures of frequency of exclamation mark and capitalisation - but it'll take a braver man than me do conduct that work.Note: this analysis considered posting frequency only and made no judgement on quality of said posts.

Alan Clark ● 5106d

What on earth is our Judicial system coming to! I do not care that Mr.Murdoch is a billionaire and at the moment in dire straits. What I do care about is that he is 80 years old and was attacked in Parliament(this in itself should never have been able to happen) the old boy could have had a heart attack and yet the cretin who did this was given a 6 week sentence when it should have been 6 month's for assault plus a sentence for raiding Parliament.It was bad enough when the judge condemned him for interrupting the "dignity of Parliament" not for the attack on an elderly man, then yesterday deciding that he(the judge) had not taken into consideration that May-Bowles had pleaded guilty(for God's sake 2 million people saw the idiot do it) and took 2 week's off which left him 4 week's which means that we the taxpayer have payed at least 10 thousand pounds for this buffoon to have free publicity he will be released shortly.Fiona Bruce was attacked by 2 guy's whilst filming the Antiques Road Show, they pushed a foam filled plate into her face(this could have been Acid) were they arrested for the Assault NO!! of course not they were each given 80 pound fines on the spot. What chance do we the ordinary people have if we are attacked, bloody none that's what.Yet if we were to retaliate and hurt the offender we ourselves would end up in Prison.Another disgusting failure within our law we have this bestial excuse for a man who not only raped and murdered Milly Dowling but 2 other young women, taking we the people to court because of his "Human Right's" this piece of *rap was rightly given a beating from another inmate and yet he call's on his "Human Right' to the value of 30000 pounds, how dare he(Bring back the Cat of Nine Tails)Where is Mr Lewis's condemnation of this outrage!!!

Dawn Hardy ● 5116d

WHY oh WHY oh WHY?!?!?! are people so deteremint  to doubt the honorobility of the paper that I only started buying in this last week  just after my Nieces birthday which was lovely as it was held in the park near where they live that is called the guardian. I have now read every single one of the pages’ that is in the Newspaper called the guardian and I have thought this through carefully  and at great great length and consider it to be true. So why??? the H*LL then does some people who I will not name but who know who They are still insist on believing the words’ of the EVIL !!!!! Mudrach corporates’ Empire. All they have is the Word and that is all of that posh eton School attending Cameron and remember what he and his Bottom Buddy Osborne have done in sacking everyone everywhere’s. Last year. I do not think and that is true that we can trust any policitions words’ they are all in it for the publicity and the duck ponds’ moats. They say anything to keep their Noses!!!! in the trough of pigs will that is the television’s studio’s and lining the future career pockets with linings of future career’s. And they spend all our money on video’s and expenses claims that would make your eye water if you saw them which I have not but I can imagine. This is our money not there’s so the policitians should not think that this is fair to claim these expenses which it is not there’s to do under any circumstances.I have now read each and every single Page of each and every guardian that has been published since I have always been buying them since the week before last. The earlier message’s that were sent to this topic on HACKING!!!! have stopped me to make me Think. And I have. Perhap’s its the possibility and chance that I have made assumptions and claim’s not justifiable as well. But NO!!!! this is not the case from reading all the pages and articles. I hope that makes you think???? Well???Well!!!!! now I have also looked at the coverage on the unbiased Sky news web pages I think someone should be asking the BIG questions. Why did the television and satellite news people not have any idea that there was any HACKING!!!! going on. No-one seems to know this or if they do they are not telling which is telling. And this is something I do not understand and perhaps needs someone with specialist technical knowledge’s to state CLEARLY!!!! and CATEGORICALLY!!!! why news on bits of paper can be so more much more detailed and informative that 30 second slots on the television or satellite news reports. This is beyond me as I would have thought the new Technology would be newer. Now I have looked again at my computer and found that my exclamation button is now BROKEN````` and so I am having to use the button next to it. Which just goes to show that one mans bush is worth two in the hand. And even with or without the righteous button of exclamation I am continueing to fight good the fight of fight’s against all that is wrong and not right and disclaim against those who malign the guardian and any paper that comes in that funny size which I like because it is easy to hold open. The pressing freedom will succeed with my help and with it NOT thinking.

Alan Clark ● 5119d

Mr Wood, I said that you had given me pause to think not that you called me a liar, because of this I went over and checked everything that I have written,if I argue a point then I need to know that I have used truthful information and not fabricated!!I am only disgusted at the political motivation behind this scandal because the Tories are being blamed, you are telling me that if Labour were involved and that the same allegations and accusations were being thrown at them,then you believe that I would not be interested. You mention the BBC yes I was critical of them, I was also critical of Joey Jones and Kay Burley(Sky) why? because all TV media and newspapers have a duty to we the public to openly and without bias report a story on information supplied or ferreted out.Injustice and the fight against it does not depend on whom you vote for it is the right and the wrong of what,how and why it is publicized! that is what counts the most in our society. If we are continually pounded from all sides of the media with allegations and nobody questions the fact that these are just allegations. It went on 24/7 without stop in the end we were brainwashed into believing these allegations without doubt. There but for the Grace of God go I.The argument that I have is that these investigations have been on and off for over 10 years, however no one paper or TV media has asked the most important question to the Labour Party as to why? they were not brought to a satisfactory conclusion. Preferential treatment is morally and legally wrong and should be seen not to be happening. The frenzy that went on would seem that these allegations have only just come about,not long term.We still live in a Democracy  it is our right to question. It used to be in our land that you were innocent until proven guilty now you are guilty unless you yourself can prove yourself innocent.It is so very wrong.Incidentally Lord Kinnock made his ridiculous and worrying statement on Radio!When you consider that the relationship between newspapers,police and politicians has been on going for well over a century. I strongly believe that this hue and cry has gotten completely out of hand and is already regretted. Will we ever get the truth and not supposition. I really don't think so 3500 phone numbers in a private investigators record's prove nothing! Why? are there 2 investigations ongoing one for phone hacking and one for corruption(supposedly paying the police for information if this was done then phone hacking is questionable)surely they should be a joint investigation. Anyway Mr Wood, I'll just keep looking at bit's and bob's on the net awaiting the end of recess.The Freedom of the Press is essential to us and must be maintained.

Dawn Hardy ● 5120d

Dawn    I don't recall accusing you of lying,I have and still do accuse you of being obsessively biased to the right.   In the more or less words of the Beatles you "just see what you want to see",the Right can do no wrong and the Left can do no right....waste of a brain...Your thought process is shackled to a Right wing anchor with a short chain.  Real life is a compromise,nobody gets everything correct. At best the World revolves around something called "Fuzzy Logic",(which we all contribute to) in that you can make plans with the best will in the World,but those plans can be thrown out of kilter by some faceless city banker (or anybody else for that matter) either making a mistake or just being greedy.  Personally I'm pleased that the Observer bought phone hacking to the fore,Ed Miliband and Tom Watson? Well it is, under the current system their job to make the Tories look silly, but make no mistake if the boot was on the other foot,I can assure you that Cameron et al would be screaming "Foul!!" aided and abetted by the Right wing press. Surely you can see that?  "They want ALL newspapers shackled as Lord Kinnock so vehemently stated on the radio.Let's not forget they also want David Cameron to stand down!"    I've re-listened to the Kinnock/Humphries piece and couldn't find anywhere that Kinnock used or implied the word shackled,I suspect he's sensible enough to realise that's not going to happen.  As an aside I was amused to see that when something that you agree with on the BBC i.e. Humphries energetic grilling of Kinnoch you are all agog to post about it,and yet probably not a week ago you were accusing the BBC of Left wing bias...that's what I mean about your blue tinted glasses! "For goodness sake for 13 years not one of us could criticize a neighbor or a group or even have an argument across the fence because we had been institutionalized by Labour, we would either have been accused of Racial Discrimination, Harassment also whatever could be thrown at us, do any of us actually want to go back to that time."Tosh!"None of us can afford ANY politician to become so powerful again that is why the Freedom of the Press must be maintained."Ah...well there you're saying the same thing as Kinnock.Does/has freedom of the press ever existed,aren't all papers biased one way or t'other? Personally hacking apart,I think the press should carry on as usual,at the end of the day we'll all buy papers that suit our own bias...wont you?

Tony Wood ● 5120d

Mr Wood,Your remark gave me pause for thought, consequently I took the whole of yesterday and the evening to check the facts that I have written, about the hacking scandal and individuals.Nothing that I have written has been a misrepresentation of the truth or a lie, I have dealt only in facts!!Are you not just a little concerned that this whole scandal has come about by an allegation made by the Guardian also Ed.Milliband,Tony Watson and the rest jumped on the band wagon purely for political motives. They want ALL newspapers shackled as Lord Kinnock so vehemently stated on the radio.Let's not forget they also want David Cameron to stand down!We all know that when Parliament(is back in action what a laugh)from recess that straight away Ed.Miliband is going to ask for the answers to his 50 questions, Mr Cameron should reply that if the whole house and the House of Lords will also answer them then so will they.Another chap from the NOW has been arrested on suspicion, Ms.Smith you can be helpful here, we had a debate on Bail being taken down to 96 hour's before actual criminal charges had to be brought.How can any of these people be on continual bail if the Law has been changed???For goodness sake for 13 years not one of us could criticize a neighbor or a group or even have an argument across the fence because we had been institutionalized by Labour, we would either have been accused of Racial Discrimination, Harassment also whatever could be thrown at us, do any of us actually want to go back to that time. None of us can afford ANY politician to become so powerful again that is why the Freedom of the Press must be maintained.

Dawn Hardy ● 5120d

Could this article be the REAL reason behind Tom Watson's Campaign against the Murdoch's??? FOX NEWS apparently it is very powerful in the States.Glenn BeckWatson has been harshly critical of conservative Fox News host Glenn Beck, saying that Beck's "type of journalism is dangerous and can have wide-ranging negative effects on society. The kind of material broadcast by Glenn Beck is not unique; a number of other 'shock jocks' operate in the States. However, none has displayed intolerance on such a frequent and irresponsible scale as Glenn Beck. It is vital that that kind of 'news' is not made or broadcast in the UK. However, the proposed acquisition of BSkyB by News Corp means that there is an increased threat of its becoming a reality."[24] He also criticized News Corp head Rupert Murdoch for employing Beck and other controversial figures:Tom Watson Quote:- If Glenn Beck were here today I would say to him: "Glenn Beck, you are a bigot. You bring shame to your country, not because you lack balance, but because you are an unthinking buffoon. Rupert Murdoch tolerates you because you are his useful idiot. He uses you to get a foothold in the doors of the powerful. Like his phone-hacking journalists and his pugnacious leader-writers in Australia, you are expendable. Let us hope he disposes of your nasty brand of intolerance sooner rather than later." It is Rupert and James Murdoch who should answer for bigots such as Glenn Beck and phone hackers such as Clive Goodman andGlen Mulcaire. They employ them. They promote them. They are responsible for them. It is time for thinking citizens in the United Kingdom, the United States and Australia to unite against the Murdochs' vicious brand of politics that masquerades as publishing.[24]This in itself appears to give the real reason as to why Tom Watson has taken this battle up since 2009, he does not want Fox News in the British Public Domain, I have never watched it before however I will now.Why? did not Tom Watson have this attitude when Mr Murdoch ruled the roost, after all he himself was in government as well, this last time he resigned June 2009 probably because of the Daily Mail and the Sun writing about the so called Red Rag plot. Surely it was because previously Rupert Murdoch had kept Labour in power most certainly with publicity, there is nothing worse than the converted when it suit's.Remember it was 2009 when Gordon Brown rang Rupert Murdoch to ask him to stop the Sun printing nasty things Jamie James comes to mind and Afghanistan. Obviously Mr Murdoch did not comply hence the breakup of the close relationship between the Brown's & the Murdoch's and dashing in on his white charge was gallant Tom Watson. No!! can this be the same Tom Watson who between 2005-2009 claimed 4800 pounds food allowance on a yearly basis the very most that could be claimed,surely I jest!!!

Dawn Hardy ● 5122d

I actually went out and brought the Guardian yesterday and have since spent time studying the reporting of Mrs Paynes alleged phone hacking. The Guardians headline was appalling to see and if I had not known that this headline was alleged I would have believed it out of hand. It was only as I continued to read that it became quite clear that this story was made up of supposition over the guilt of both Mrs Brooks and the NOW.Little Sarah Payne was 8 years old when she was abducted and brutally murdered by a pedophile in July 2000. Mrs Brooks first met with Mike & Sara Payne after going to there home and they allowed her in, that in effect was the start of Sarah's Law incidentally a petition was signed by one million NOW readers to support the change in the sex offenders law. The paper actually bought Mrs Payne a mobile phone in 2000 and continued to pay the bill, they were in constant contact with her on a daily basis. Why then this dreadful allegation that Rebekha Brooks was involved in her phone being hacked when she or a colleague was speaking with her once or twice on a daily basis.Sara Payne worked along side Rebekha Brooks in getting Sarah's Law passed through Parliament,in fact she was given an MBE in 2009 as a result of her work. Mrs Payne was "understandably upset but also baffled as she didn't even have voicemail on her phone until 2009" After Mrs Payne was told by Police that her personal details had been found in paperwork kept by Glenn Mulcaire, she said "I am verydistressed and upset by the news that my details have been found on Mulcaires list"She added: Notwithstanding the bad apples involved here, my faith remains solidly behind all the good people who have supported me over the last 11 years. I will never lose my faith in them.

Dawn Hardy ● 5123d

Unless (I am generalizing)you have actually been the head of a vast number of staff, you have no understanding of how an office works, on a weekly basis your accounts staff give actual figures of expenditure to you that were or are a part of your monthly budget forecast, unless your expenditure goes over that budget you as head of your department do not actually see every thousand pounds that has been expended.Each department has a manager plus general manager who have levels of sign off, these in turn end the day in the accounts office. At the end of each fiscal year, auditors come in to audit the accounts also the VAT Inspectors. In actuality you are in charge of this department but have no clear knowledge of the complete breakdown of expenditure, purely because you have had no reason to investigate any wrong doing, because your budget has not been over extended.Your Quote:-She was in these roles during the initial police investigation when, strangely, the police managed to find to case.So you are saying that initially she was guilty of wrong doing if that was the case, then why? has she not now been charged only charged with suspicion of, there is no actual proof, the case that you are talking about was Prince William those 2 chaps went to prison. I appreciate that if you are the head of a dept, then the buck stops here.However what I cannot get my head around is the fact that only the NOW are accused of this alleged phone hacking, when we have a BBC TV film of Piers Morgan confessing to this action whilst working for the Daily Mirror, we have allegedly 1200 hacking allegations against the Daily Mail also other newspapers, why?? is it only the NOW in the frame.Again the Guardian is mentioned as sacrosanct this is a dangerous game that is being played, how can an in depth investigation to only one newspaper be taking place at this moment in time, when nobody in office is questioning where they are receiving this information from. Information that has brought about these dreadful allegations, two wrongs do not make a right. Your Quote:-One may view the so called Sarah's Law as a major step forward in child safety, or as backward step in human rightsAs far as I am concerned no Pedophile or Rapist whether the victim be male or female has no such thing that as human rights, far too much concern is given to the beast who actually commits these dreadful acts, and not enough to the victim or victims family. Do you really think that anything like Sarah's Law would have been pushed through Parliament if not for Mrs Brooks and the NOW plus other papers taking the fight up. They are to be commended not vilified.This is why we must not allow Parliament to take The Freedom of the Press away, what was is Lord Kinnock said they were to be shackled, Ed Miliband and Tom Watson are also in agreement that they must be controlled by Parliament and the House of Lords. Heaven help us if it ever comes to pass.Your Quote:-That's what we elect parliament for.Unfortunately only 15% of all our laws are actually passed through our Houses of Parliament, the other 85% comes through Europe!!I listened to the Lord Justice the other morning on how he was to handle this investigation and was quite impressed until he said that he would decide what we the public should  know, that sentence in itself tells me that this will be another inquiry like the Iraq one was, when both the press and public were dismissed from the room because it considered by the powers that it was too secret for the public to know.When you consider that this "quarter"investigation is going to cost we the taxpayers at least 10 Million Pounds, I would hope that nothing will be left out, however as it has already been decided that we will not be told the whole, as far as I am concerned it just looks good politically.Well done to the Telegraph for making public the Expenses Fiasco public, we would never have known otherwise. However they brought the information does this make them crooked?If and I do mean if this investigation was only for the safety and confidentiality of we the people and not a particular political agenda, then Justice would be seen to have been done. Unfortunately for us the outlook does not look good!!  I will fight as hard as I have fought this one to enable our FREEDOM OF THE PRESS TO CONTINUE!!!

Dawn Hardy ● 5124d

Having just returned from a short break in Ireland, I turned the news on to face the most dastardly allegation yet against Rebekha Brooks and bear in mind that these are no more than ALLEGATIONS.Rebekha Brook's is a young woman to be admired,she worked harder than anyone else, MP's, other newspapers,Judges to get Sarah's Law passed through Parliament, a Law that protects young vulnerable children from Pedophiles, a woman who because of her disgust and outrage of what had happened to little Sarah Payne took on the Establishment and won. Whilst campaigning she and Mrs Payne became firm friends, Mrs Brooks supplied her with a phone!!! for goodness sake they used to chat regularly, with a relationship like that why would you need or want to bug a phone when anytime she needed to obtain information, she had it just by speaking with Mrs.Payne on the phone that she had supplied!!! Let's not forget that Mrs Brook's own phone was hacked 6 times by Glenn Muclaire in 2006 she herself reported this to the police. I will not believe this of Rebekha Brook's just because the Conjecture and Allegation's comes from the GUARDIAN, it was said at the Culture & Media Committee that Rupert Murdoch scared everyone so that they did as he said. The Guardian scares me, you know why? because nobody but nobody Police, Politicians other Newspapers TV Media have asked WHERE the GUARDIAN get's it 's information and HOW!!! What was really scary was when Ms.Coffee a member of the Culture Committee said that she would ask!!!!ask!! can you believe it!! the Guardian if they would share the information that they have with the Culture Committee!!! at no time did she say that the Committee would ask where the Guardian got there information from or how!!Ms.Coffee said that they may recall Mrs.Brook's however Mrs Brook's told the Culture Inquisition that once the legalities were completed she would like for them to again invite her so that she could answer questions that had been put to her but could not answer because she was on bail. Convenient that for the Politician's, so drop the Suspicion of Charge and let her tell all and I mean all.Just don't keep trying to destroy her, without any Proof!!This Investigation reminds me of Berlin in the pre-war yearsif you didn't like someone or they had done something to you then all you had to do was tell the authorities, in this case all you have to do is tell the Guardian or do you even have to to do that,I think that they must have a magic wand to get all this information when no other part of the media has. ALLEGATION!It would appear that Sarah Payne's Mum's telephone number was in the diary of Glenn Muclaire, we have to remember that this guy has approx.3500 numbers in this diary, because of this the Police have told Mrs Payne that there is a possibility that she was hacked. NO PROOF!!!Presumably they will continue with this line because of the stress that they have been put under by certain politicians  to obtain results, never mind the truth!!!

Dawn Hardy ● 5125d

No it was not an attack on Tom Watson, it was a possible explanation of why? he showed such animosity toward the Murdoch's at the Culture Meeting. When you are in a position of power such as sitting on that committee you should be seen to have no bias, otherwise it becomes just one sided. Each committee member is allotted 10 minutes in which to question. Mr Watson far exceeded this he had near to 30 minutes!!! in a 2 hour period.As for Keith Vaz his personal questioning of both Sir Paul Stephenson and Mr Yates again exceeded his warrant, especially when you consider his own personal background.Honestly would we the public have known about the investigation's on him and his 1 month suspension from Parliament except for the newspaper's NO!! of course we would not.This is why the Freedom of the Press must be maintained.Both of these gentlemen have reason to resent not just the NOW but the other papers put out by Fleet Street, that in itself should have negated them from any panel.As for Louise Menschs out of all of them, she was the only one who asked pertinent questions. She asked about the Daily Mail who have over 1000 allegations against them.It is kill the NOW and it's owners however these alleged practices cannot just be held accountable by the NOW and not the rest of Fleet Street.No! I am not sticking up for them if the allegations against them are proved to be true, then they do indeed need to be punished. However there is no way that it can be proved unless you being the person hacked can prove that the story that has been run has coincided with your very own personal information that has been intercepted. Do you still have your text messages from 5 years ago,I don't have my text messages from this morning!!!If we are to have a thorough investigation then it must be fairly done and all papers should be put under scrutiny.It is the unfairness, the frenzy and the political agenda that infuriates me.

Dawn Hardy ● 5130d

Yes of course it is important for any politician who meet with any part of the newspaper world both officially and socially should in future be held accountable. A record should be made of what has been discussed.If only to protect themselves.At this particular time though if you were to ask me about a conversation that I had with anyone last year, in all honesty I could not recall, not because I have something to hide but I just do not have that kind of memory and if truthful we none of us do.No.10 should be sacrosanct and whomever visit socially or on business should only enter via the front door unfortunately this practice has been ongoing for eons and the practice should stop as I am sure that it has.It is unfair though that David Cameron has been singled out and the attempted ostracism is for him alone. I do not ask that it go away, silently into the night, however I do insist that this investigation take on board not only the present Prime Minister but also the PM's of the last 13 years to get a complete and comprehensive understanding of the whole issue.I personally will not be used by any politicians to bring down David Cameron.I looked at Ed Milibands political career and was surprised to see that he was actually a Minister at the time of Gordon Brown. What surprised me is the "surprise" that he has shown to us about this scandal, because he himself was on watch at the time!!! MP for Doncaster North, 2005 - presentLeader of the Opposition, 2010 - presentShadow Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change, 2010Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change, 2008 - 2010Minister for the Cabinet Office, 2007 - 2008So let's remember when he continues to bang the drum about this dreadful scandal that he was Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change when the investigation was stopped in 2009, where were his concerns then. It is so very easy to point an accusing finger at David Cameron however the ones that were culpable of continually ignoring it and bringing it to a satisfactory conclusion 2002-2006-2009 were in fact the last 2 Labour Administration's. Jeremy Hunt repeated what David Cameron had said last Wednesday when he answered Parliament 138 times,that he had at no time acted inappropriately with the BSKYB deal let's not forget he was instrumental in the deal being withdrawn by condemning it along with Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg..

Dawn Hardy ● 5131d

Quite frankly if I were David Cameron I would have myself a secretary to take notes on all conversation's for future inquisition's. I'm surprised the poor chap hasn't been questioned about what he and Sam talk about in "private"I like other's want and need this investigation to go into every knook & cranny, but each day we have the likes of Tom Watson picking at it(I am really going to find out what was printed about him not only in the NOW but other newspaper's it must have been bad, because I watched the Culture inquisition of the Murdoch's again last night and the hatred and venom that emanated from Mr Watson's face was personal very personal. What has he done in the past??? Politicians with personal agendas should be most emphatically excluded from sitting on any committee, otherwise we are never ever going to get the whole truth, it will turn into another Iraq Inquiry where the public and the press were excluded because it was considered that whatever they were discussing was not in the public interest.What an out!!. I don't know about you but I want to know about every bit of evidence alleged or true, after all it is our right. However when you have a High Court Judge allowing the likes of Jemmima Khan and Hugh Grant to get into there alleged evidence purely because of possible monetary expectations (payout) whether they have already seen this before or not. It does set a precedent whilst a Criminal Investigation is ongoing and should not have been allowed.

Dawn Hardy ● 5131d

It would appear that the Labour Party have a new spokesman one Ivan Lewis who on TV this morning again mentioned the Dowler Tragedy. Shame on you!!Chris Bryant was also guilty of this.He first became involved with all newspapers intruding on ordinary peoples lives, when a story was printed in his local press about one of his constituents early 2000.He then as usual was critical of Tory & Lib Dem MP's he went on to mention Theresa May,Boris Johnson also Nick Clegg on how little they had done this last few months.He of course forgot to mention the lavish party held at Elisabeth Murdoch's country home attended by Douglas Alexander,Tessa Jowell, David Miliband also Lord Mandalson all Labour Party Member's among many other guest's.  It would appear to be exactly the same as when Labour were in power. They can do it with impunity other's cannot.Again he failed to mention the fact that Labour had had 9 years 2002-6-9 to ensure that this investigation was brought to a satisfactory conclusion.They did absolutely nothing.WHY?I listened to Mr Mark Lewis the Dowler family Solicitor and was very surprised to find that the initial investigation into Milly Dowler's disappearance was actually led by Surrey Police apparently it was handed over in 2006 to the Met. Apparently Mr Lewis said that they also new nothing about the allegations of Milly Dowler's phone being hacked until this July when suggested by the Guardian.Did you notice the Sky news desk's surprise yesterday on being told by the Guardian that Mr.Hoare Ex-NOW Entertainment's Reporter had been found dead. Where does the Guardian get it's information!!!

Dawn Hardy ● 5134d

Sir Paul Stephenson resigns and so he should, here we have the most powerful policeman in the land and he spent 1 month along with his wife at the very expensive Champneys Spa, which would have cost you and I 12000 Pounds, he however got it for FREE!!Any other ordinary policeman doing the same would have been sacked and accused of being on the take.I really don't care that he employed Neil Wallis(Ex-NOW Executive Editor) after all are we to paint all Ex-NOW reporters as unemployable.Sir Paul took great pleasure in mentioning Andy Coulson! payback for his resignation I think so. David Cameron employed Andy Coulson in 2007 who had been cleared not only by the Police also the Select Committee of any wrong doing,then why?? should he not have been employed by David Cameron. The man had been proved innocent by the powers that be!!!Although this investigation is being led by the very capable Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers, it should go to an outside Police Force because otherwise whatever is found it will be suspect in the future for political reasons.I want a full and comprehensive investigation, at the moment we are all led to believe that it has only just come to light,however this has been intermittently going on since 2002, 2006 (Tony Blair)it was again re-opened only to be closed down 2009(Gordon Brown) again it should have been investigated to it's conclusion and was not WHY??? Labour came into power 1997 and were voted out 2010, there is no excuse, up until 2009 Rupert Murdoch supported them in all ways. this is why it was never brought to a satisfactory conclusion.

Dawn Hardy ● 5135d

A spokes person for Rebekha Brooks says that she has been offering to speak to Police since this last January, the Police response that they had no questions to ask,however now they do, how is that it is only now that she has been  been arrested on suspicion.Why??? when we are to have a Judicial Inquiry plus we have  an on going Police Investigation at this moment in time are MP.s so anxious to have Rebakha Brooks plus the Murdoch's attend a Culture Media Select Committee on Tuesday. These people are going to be MP's from Tony Blair & Gordon Brown's time who only have there own agenda. Come on-would you answer questions,knowing full well that there is a Police Investigations plus a Judicial Inquiry to be held in the forth coming year, of course you wouldn't, I certainly would not. Are we really expected to believe that she had arranged her own arrest, are we the public as stupid as Member's of Parliament think we are!!! Commissioner Stephenson has questions to answer that bring the Metropolitan Police yet again into disrepute, so arresting Rebekha Brooks takes the heat off.What we must all remember is that it was only July this year(Right Now) that CERTAIN allegations emerged. NO ACTUAL PROOF THAT THESE ALLEGATION ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE. Therese Coffee MP on the Culture Select Committee yes the same one who said come early for a seat, hopes that Mrs Brooks will attend, is this so that she can say, I have been arrested and am out on bail therefore anything I say in response to your questions may be used against me in the future. Surely making her look as if she is deliberately hiding things, poor girl she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. If this persecution of her continues, I can see women all over the UK starting a Petition for her, because they will start to put themselves in her place. I would certainly sign it, she is to be the Sacrificial Lamb and it is not right!!!

Dawn Hardy ● 5136d

Ed Miliband has most certainly preempted the decision on the investigation to be led by Lord Justice appointed by David Cameron.He is calling for the Restriction of Media Ownership of Rupert Murdoch if he is successful will it stop there of course not, Harriet Harman when asked by Dermot Murnaghan Sky did not go into any details of the proposal.(Incidently well done to Dermot for a comprehensive programme).If Ed Miliband is  successful will it mean the closure of the Sun,Times and the Sunday Times if it does then how many other people will lose their jobs. Revenge!! he tends to forget that in the initial investigation into these ALLEGATIONS!!!305 reporters from 8 different newspapers were supposedly making use of a Private Investigator. It is quite ludicrous that Commercial Espionage was mentioned last evening by Mr.Randall again it is all alleged, 2 Top Daily Mail reporter's were at first accused by the Police of phone hacking and then later in the day were told by the Police that they could have been victims of phone hacking them selves hence Mr Randall's commercial espionage.This suggestion is a curtailment of our Freedom of Speech!!! Parliament is to make a decision shortly, now here is where I think he will live to regret it, because people he and other M.P's also want to have Regulatory Control of Facebook, Twitter as well as the TV Media, we the British Public will not tolerate this kind of Dictatorship, we rely wholeheartedly upon the Media of any sort to keep us up to date with the news also to keep Member's of Parliament on there toes to behave as they should as a paid representative of our society and country.  If this Bill-Law is able to go through Parliament then that means that none of us will be able to publicly criticize any Parliamentarian's action or  misdeed on Facebook,Twitter even on the TW8 Forum for fear of arrest, can Ed Miliband honestly stand up after this and say that it is in the countries interest that he is taking this action!!!

Dawn Hardy ● 5136d

Mr.Waller you are so right:-.What baffles me is in the Dowler situation. How is it that a private eye, on a commission, without any access to the family, got to her phone before the police?Surely, with direct contact, the police should have been into her phone within hours of her being reported missing. And that quite possibly, could have been more fortunate for the victim.What would we be saying if that hacker found a clue and led to her safe recovery?At the time reported, it was not known what had happened to her.But the information was not passed over and that is inexcusable.However has it been irrefutably proven that this allegation is actually true, like you if it is then it is a disgrace but until we the public are actually shown the proof, I will still look upon it as conjecture. If MP's are going to be able to sit on a panel led by Lord Judge Eveleson then I am apprehensive that we the public will never get the whole true story. I watched Rebekha Brooks being interviewed by the select committee in 2002 where she admitted that newspapers do pay police for information this is no surprise, it has been happening all over the world for decades. How would the Watergate Expose have happened if not under cover investigation's, this is what certain political elements in our Parliament want to outlaw.The Freedom of the Press!!! We are a Democracy and not a Dictatorship we cannot allow that to be taken away from us. So much investigative investigation has uncovered so much corruption and much to politicians surprise Rebekha Brooks has been instrumental in bringing it to the Public's notice. This is why she is so hated by John Prescott who is at this moment spieling about the NOW, I mean did we want to know that he was being unfaithful to his wife and humping his secretary cum mistress on and under his desk in Westminster whilst he was supposed to be looking out for our country, we had a right to know that we could not depend upon him!!! I am very much afraid that this Labour led frenzy is more political revenge against the NOW then really wanting to get to the truth after all this alleged scandal did happen between 2002-2006-2009 on Labour's watch.I do wonder what our other newspapers were doing at this time or are Parliament going to start on them next.Watch out you will not be able to spread the news if Labour have there way.

Dawn Hardy ● 5138d

It's the questions NOT being asked that worry me. Clearly the hacking got out of hand and was used in the wrong way for the wrong reasons.But we live in and age where power, money and technology can all be used and abused.How can journalists or publications take on those who have something to hide?Especially if it is in the public interest.If one covers one's tracks with technology, super injunctions and many other means that did not exist 20 years ago. How can one get to the truth.?We have papers and TV documentaries that seem to produce stories that are either non-stories or carefully written fantasies. Cheap journalism with no risks.Then we have solid investigative work (Like the MP's expenses) which only came about because of a disgusted citizen (not a journalist) who 'hacked' into a database which otherwise would have remained secret to all of us.In most of the stories of the NoW hacking, the one thing not mentioned much is that the stories were true. Irrespective of whether they are of interest or not.What baffles me is in the Dowler situation. How is it that a private eye, on a commission, without any access to the family, got to her phone before the police?Surely, with direct contact, the police should have been into her phone within hours of her being reported missing. And that quite possibly, could have been more fortunate for the victim.What would we be saying if that hacker found a clue and led to her safe recovery?At the time reported, it was not known what had happened to her.But the information was not passed over and that is inexcusable.There was a time when crime reporters would work very closely with police, often able to fid out or access things that red tape and procedure would slow the police down. Sometimes down to lack of resources or funding.This often got a result. The paper got it's story, the police got their arrest and the victims got justice.Ronald Biggs is one example.These collaborations did not involve money, more a 'Sweeney' style booze up and a few lunches.  More or less the same as almost any company does business.Press freedom is very valuable and in the last 20 years or so it has been made very difficult for journalists whether on a local paper or the big guns to bring to us the truth and enlighten us. So difficult that I suspect it is why we are now fed so much tittle tattle of the frivolous celebrity nonsense. A creation to enable papers to survive.Changes are needed but not so as to curtail the freedom that just about still allows MP's expenses etc to be revealed.

Anthony Waller ● 5138d

Ed Miliband said yesterday that he was talking for the British Public, well!! I watched Jeremy Paxton on News Night yesterday evening, there were equal Tory,Labour also Lib Dems in the audience this Mr.Miliband is Londoners response to your hysteria!!!Mr Paxton asked Deborah Martinsan "are the public really excised about this" her response:Of course it matters,but lets keep it in perspective, a lot of things matter a lot more to people.I was doing a scoop last week and this wasn't even mentioned, she says that when she prompted them they talked a little about it and then moved on to things that did matter. Like there Jobs,Family Finances, then they are about Murdoch's Family Finances. This is how people make there political decisions in the end,things that effect them it's not so surprising. Mr Paxton then asked about the Police taking money, the consensus was shock. a male response who said that he was more shocked by the failure of the first investigation and the amount of evidence that they had and it was dropped! he went on: again these are allegations and this may be proved in the future on what exactly really happened, Jeremy said but they had the alleged evidence! exactly man responded but we've never had an answer to that.Jeremy did it not surprise you that a very Senior Police Officer who was testifying yesterday upon whose shoulders rest our Security for example from Terrorists attack, does that surprise you.Response Yes it did actually, it's easy to be cynical about it and say the Police is I suppose a microcosm of all sorts of people and sooner or later there's going to be a few bent ones, but I'm more interested in wheedling the ones out so that we can look at the Police Force and try not to lose faith with it entirely and have a blinkered view of it as if they are all corrupt because they are obviously not.Another man thought that when the inquiry first was first set up and recovered all that evidence it was for a certain job and it wasn't set up to protect the public from phone hacking and all the sorts of things that have come out since then.Another response: I think that the general consensus of Politicians is that unfortunately we assume they lie to us and don't tell us the whole truth.I think they have all known about the hacking scandal and have chosen not to tell us or tell us the right way, I think in a sense they are probably being reactive not proactive, there dealing with it now we know about it, rather than dealing with it in so many years and actually hiding it under the carpet,they are just trying to take points off each other.Asked about Nick Clegg one response: That he had not gotten through so many policies that he had promised.Another chap said that it had become a party political squabble.Another women said that we the public had known for a long time about the relationship of Rupert Murdoch's Empire and Politicians.Another woman said that she read the NOW but flicked through the Observer,asked by Mr Paxton did she not feel culpable she repsonded no!! it's like reading a comic and I enjoy it!!  Mr Paxton asked if anyone had had the view changed by what's happened.A woman responded I feel sorry for Cameron in a way, only because he has taken on the mess that was left behind. In the last 14 months he's had to pick up, it was all,here have these funds,do that,do this with all this money.Now we've got this huge debt and instead of thinking about us,us citizens who have to pay taxes and everything, everything is being cut for us.I think someone should look out and start doing it so that we benefit from it. Everything needs to be addressed I feel sorry for Cameron he's come along and it's just a big mess he's having to pick up and then this, what's come out now, this! next week it will be chip paper this wont ever be anything positive, we need to start to think about us!!!Mr.Paxton said so you think that this is insignificant really:her response:Yes I do,to be honest with you I couldn't care less. Mr Miliband These people are Working Class Londoner's as you can see they have there own opinion and when asked are prepared to give it, we will not be used for your political aims.

Dawn Hardy ● 5139d

I did say that I wouldn't watch this debate because now that the bid had been withdrawn it was no longer a necessity.However I had no bloody choice, both BBC and Sky screened it, a freebie political platform at an assassination attempt of David Cameron. Since 2002 this scandal has been on the horizon under the Labour Government it was Labour who were in power for 13 years and did bugger all about it,they could and they should have brought it to a satisfactory conclusion they did not, therefore a typical Labour ploy is to blame someone or something else that being David Cameron. How those bloody idiots and the prize one Ed.Miliband can go on and on about they have done what we the British Public asked them to do is utter rubbish.There are well over 60 million people in the UK did he ask us NO!!!Now give it a rest.!!Will they not understand that they cannot make accusations on the say so of the Guardian, the names that were quoted by Gordon Brown and the rest were supplied by the Guardian.Is there actual PROOF that there phones were hacked, WHY? will they not understand that it is alleged, if the Police had physical evidence then they would have charged people not allowed them out on bail until October.The hysteria that you have caused is shameful and to mention 7/7 and our lost in Afghanistan(what about Iraq)more than shameful because you did it for political aims. This afternoons behavior shows your true endeavor and that is to shut down the British Press, only one MP mentioned other papers and that was only to prove that all newspapers need to be harshly regulated. Take heed!!If Parliament try to take the Freedom of the Press away, they will see and hear such an uproar from the British People that they will notknow which way to turn. However much *ullshite you spout we know that you just want to SILENCE the press. We the people are not stupid you have gone on your sanctimonious way for to long now Ed time to start worrying about our countries needs and not your own political ambitions.

Dawn Hardy ● 5140d

Oh!dear Oh!dear, Tom Watson Labour MP has just been on the BBC TV, he has blamed the Newspaper's, the Police also surprisingly the BBC but he did not accept Labours responsiblility for not following up on the 2006-9 investigations, bearing in mind that Labour were in power at this time and were sponsored by Rupert Murdoch and News Intl, is it not fact that any government in power control our police services.So at the end of the day government can intervene to ensure that a Police Investigation can be brought to a satisfactory conclusion in the Public's interest if it suits there purpose obviously it didn't suit Labours purpose at that particular time..Good for Lord Ashcroft for telling how it is, he has had his bank account illegally looked at, which I suggested a few days back, but of course it is okay purely because he is Lord Ashcroft and for some reason despised by Labour, let's not go into tax evasion, he pays any Income Tax due in this country also in any other country that tax is due. Do any of us really think that Parliament saying that Rupert Murdoch should retract his bid for BSKYB will make a difference,of course not but doesn't it give Ed Miliband surety of being on the front pages of the Newspapers-TV Media that he is trying so hard to take away there FREEDOM of Disclosure, purely as  payback for the Expenses Scandal. We the British Public are not that gullible!!!Freedom of the Press is a part of British life, we need it if only to keep our wayward politicians under control and of course the occasional racy story. Leave well enough alone, because oh! my gosh there are so many many more stories to be printed by one and all of the current newspapers not just News Intl. Really they want to be able to bring in a Law that forbids the News Industry from printing anything detrimental to politicians.

Dawn Hardy ● 5140d

I had the occasion to watch the Marx Brothers today held at the Offices of the Home Affairs Select Committee. Firstly we had the ex-Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair now known as Lord Blair of Boughton(Why? was this man made a Lord when he was knighted in 2003)who Keith Vaz whizzed out double quick however not before Lord Blair stated quite categorically that he was accountable but not responsible for the lack of action taken in 2006 in the Hacking Investigation, he had delegated.Lord Boughton should realize that the meaning of accountable is responsible. Then came Assistant Commissioner Yates who just did not take his responsibility seriously although now with hindsight he should have done, however as far as he was concerned he had done nothing wrong by not pursuing the 2006 fiasco.Next we had Peter Clark this chap was really the only one with an honest excuse and that being he was dealing with Terrorist's. Then Andy Haymen, what can I say this guy is a damn good actor-a laugh a minute, yet again he was sorry for not paying more attention they all appear to have apologized with Mr Vaz's help for the distress caused. Then along came:-Met Police Deputy Commissioner Sue Akers who seems both eager and willing to provide a full investigation she gave fresh evidence of approx 5000 land lines that are among the 11000 page evidence that none of the a fore mentioned had the good grace to look at and act upon. It seemed a complete and utter waste of time. The real reason why this case was well and truly put on the back burner will probably never came to light.News Intl made an announcement that they have proof that they did not probe into Gordon Brown's babies medical records, apparently! a man whose own child suffered with Cystic Fibrosis went into the Sun Office and gave this information because he wanted the disease publicized, he apparently made a statement to a Solicitor today to this effect, the fund raising for this disease doubled that year. I really don't see somebody willingly commit Perjury to protect News Intl, the Guardian can get it wrong!!!

Dawn Hardy ● 5141d

I have just watched a BBC Exclusive interview with Gordon Brown for a few minutes I actually felt sorry for him,his demeanor of a sad man was well received. Then I was absolutely shell shocked by his admission that he only just found out certain information from the GUARDIAN. If he was so outraged at Rebekha Brook's supposed phone call about his young son's illness and so angry at the papers publication of the boy's illness, then WHY? pray did he accept her invitation to her WEDDING 3 week's later. Come on people if someone did the dirty on you would you still be amiable to them, I certainly would not. I looked over Ed.Miliband's interview again yesterday evening, once again a Labour Politician said that information he was given must be true because he got it from the Guardian. Are none of you the little bit worried that so much alleged information has been collected by the Guardian and yet not one Politician or News Media have asked just how they came about this information. I mean if you are doing something wrong do you actually volunteer this to the Guardian, I don't know they seem to be doing exactly the same as they are accusing others paper's of doing and getting away with it, it is very worrying that the Guardian has become so powerful. Going back to Gordon Brown I can also remember Sam & David Cameron being on Front Pages when they tragically lost there son to his lifelong illness.Well!well! Alan Johnson has explained the question that I have repeatedly asked since Monday WHY??? did not Labour whilst in Government when this Hacking Scandal first reared it's ugly head in 2002,carry it through to a satisfactory conclusion, he didn't actually hit upon that or the 2006 investigation, however he tell's us they did not investigate in 2009 because(wait for it) David Cameron had employed Andy Coulson since  when was it? 2007. Alan Johnson's say's that It would have seemed to we the public that Labour were trying to win the election with dirty tricks, for goodness sake we had become so used to there dirty tricks over 13 year that we no longer expected any less. So now we are back to David Cameron being at fault and because Labour were good old boy's this is why they lost the last election.Not because they took the ordinary British people's right's whilst introducing in 1997 a great amendment to the Human Rights Act for Pedophiles and Terrorist's who have entered our country illegally and been allowed to stay.Racism was a none word until we were indoctrinated with it by Labour. Of course not for systematically stealing from we the British Public with there outrageous expense claims or completely shutting down our Economy nearly to Bankruptcy.I mean what do we stupid ignorant, alcoholic British public know, nothing of course only what we are told by the Labour Party. Well unfortunately for you, we have become well educated we do know how to come to conclusion's. It took we the British Public a long time to sit up and take note eventually we did and we voted you out. What's the bet the Times is next for the Chop!!!

Dawn Hardy ● 5141d

I have just sat through a couple of hours of the most complete and utter *ullshite I have ever had the misfortune to be heard from the Labour Opposition. The way they went on and on about where David Cameron was and why he was not there in front of them to be abused, humiliated and condemned for the HACKING Scandal was in itself a disgrace and Mr.Bercow although purportedly a Tory should be voted out of the House as Speaker for his BIAS toward them. Speaker's in the past were there simply to keep order not to curtail a response to a very impertinent question. Mr.Hunt the Culture Minister gave an outstanding performance and hit the nail right on the head when responding to a slur by Ed.Miliband he had the guts to question what the Labour Government had not done about the hacking scandal whilst they were in power, after all if they had allowed the correct investigations this would now be well behind us all and the News of the World would still be circulating. We had Messrs.Kaufman who admitted that Rebekha ? had admitted to a Committee that he was on that they had perhaps the NOW had  paid Police for information, this people was in 2002 with an admission like that WHY?? the hell was it not investigated and brought to a satisfactory conclusion,then Mr.Johnson put his penny worth in after that Jack Straw, trying to blame David Cameron and yet they were all culpable because they were in Government for the whole time, in 2006 they were at the height of there power, however they could not annoy Mr.Murdoch and so only now they are no longer funded by Mr.Murdoch are they calling for the action that should have come in 2002-2006-2009. Gordon has now come forward and says that he was also hacked, if this is the case then he was Prime Minister WHY?? did he not do something??? Let's all remember that David Cameron only won the last election just over one year ago. This scandal has been around since 2002. I am sick to death of hearing that Andy Coulson employed a reporter who had spent 7 years in prison, do you know what will happen now, no ex-prisoner will ever get a second chance at employment and will be a drain on our economy.Well done to Labour you continue to destroy our great country. After the Commons, Sky had an interview with the Shadow Foreign Secretary Douglas Alexander yes the same Douglas that went to a Dinner Party given by Elisabeth Freud nee Murdoch(yes the same Eisabeth who is on the News Intl Board) this kind of action from Cabinet Members and co,that say's that it want's to stop Rupert Murdoch keep strange bedfellows do they not.

Dawn Hardy ● 5142d

I watched Ed Miliband's press call earlier and was pleasantly surprised when one reporter had the temerity to ask him why nothing was done in 2006 and 2009 when Labour was in power,Ed was speechless and tried unsuccessfully to go on about the great work he has done this week in trying to destroy an honorable man namely David Cameron. He went on about the Metropolitan Police however I think that I am correct in thinking that Ken Livingston was the Mayor of London and they were guided by his office.Eventually he went on to say he didn't know why the investigation was halted in 2006 and he thinks that Mr Brown the Former Prime Minister was going to open an investigation in 2009 but didn't and poor old Ed again does not know why??? If these kind of questions are going to be asked to him he is going to have to be trained by Mandy.I have read all of the newspapers this weekend, and I was absolutely shocked especially after Ed Milliband Leader of the Labour Party successful attack strategy this week, to find that David Miliband, the Shadow Foreign Secretary Douglas Alexander, Shadow Cabinet Minister Tessa Jowell and wait for it Lord Mandy Mandelson all attended a Party thrown by Elisabeth Freud now Elisabeth is Rupert Murdoch's Daughter also a Member of the News International Board, it appears that David Cameron is being vilified for his friendship of Rebekha however it is okay for member's of the Shadow Cabinet to go to a dinner party held by a Board Member and Daughter of Rupert Murdoch. Folks would we have known this but for the FREEDOM of the PRESS!!!, come on of course we would not. This is why!!! we cannot allow Parliament to Regulate the Press. How about this hypothetical scenario!! The NOW Scandal on the alleged hacking was just a Scam so that Mr.Murdoch could shut the NOW down without a multitude of very very bad publicity worldwide, yes there is publicity but this man has survived worse, it is also probable that the BSkyB deal will not at this moment in time go through, why? should it, if he waits long enough they will be begging Mr.Murdoch to buy the other 61% he already owns 39%, if we remember the deal originally stalled because Mr.Murdoch thought the shares were too much, earlier on the Market BSkyB shares were running a 700=Seven Pounds on July 6th they were running at 850=Eight Pounds Fifty. BSKYB is owned by stock and share holders who each have a vote to either sell off to a prospective buyer or not, how then can Parliament say NO!!! to this.Don't get me wrong I do not believe in Monopolization by any one person or company. I sincerely think we were all duped so that 200 good reporters and an outstanding newspaper could be shut in the space of one week, without a modicum of the outrage that would have been without Ed Miliband's Band Wagon. I am taking bet's as to Mr.Murdoch supporting the Labour Party within the next 5 year's. We as a Nation cannot allow Parliament to ignore our Laws and intercede on this decision. Has anybody asked the shareholders how they would vote and do they in fact want to sell there shares, perhaps they should?

Dawn Hardy ● 5142d

Thanks to the BBC I know have a knowledge of how the alleged hacking's may have occurred!!!Mobile Phones used to come with a default four digit pin number, customers were expected to change their pin,very few did. Apparently hackers could simply ring a particular number and if the caller did not answer, the hacker could enter the default pin number and access the messages(although how a hacker could possibly find out the default number is beyond me.)There does not appear to be any way to prove that hacking has actually taken place unless the hacker admit's to doing it, it was the politician's and star's private happening's in their lives that when publicized  made them aware that they were being spied upon.This witch hunt for David Cameron's head by Ed Miliband is very wrong, neither the BBC or Sky have asked anyone that they have interviewed this last week as to WHY?? the 2006 investigation was stopped, I mean we know why?? because Labour were being supported by Mr Murdoch,and was up until late 2009.Even though Gordon Brown was PM, Tony Blair was still the man!The Commissioner of Police at that time was given the nod by politicians in charge not to allow this very pertinent investigation to carry on. The Police have been giving Newspaper's nationwide information for well over the last century so what's new. What's new is that Ed Miliband shown the way by Mandy Mandelson realizes just how politically expedient to make all this fuss at this moment in time, let us not forget that poor little Milly Dowler goes back way back to 2006 and before this was in the Labour Administration. I demand to know why? the Politician's did not do there job's in 2002, 2006 again 2009,silly me they were all getting rich off of we Joe Public. I strongly feel that the TV Media have let us down dreadfully they should have and could have been asking these self same question's, their bias should not have shown itself.On TV to day we have had Simon Hughes Lib Dem demanding Mr.Murdoch tell one and all that NO other newspaper was involved in the alleged hacking so now Mr.Murdoch can speak for the Express,The Star,The Daily Mail, The Independent etc etc, grow up!!! Simon Hughes is going to TELL HIS MP's to vote with Labour later this week, now is this not a grand gesture for the Coalition, then Brian Paddick former Metropolitan Deputy Police Commissioner who is at this moment in time suing the Met for not doing there job correctly because it was made public that he was a closet gay, who care's his business not mine.He was around at the time of the 2006 Investigation. However he has jumped on the bandwagon because he want's to become the next Mayor of London for goodness sake, heaven help us if he succeeds. Mr.Livingston also tends to forget that he was Mayor of London also in 2006.I know I have mentioned this before, however it does worry and concern me that the Guardian has such a mound of information that no one know's where it has come from, again question's have not been asked. We cannot have one set of rules for one newspaper and people then a completely different set for the rest. Did you know that on the continent newspaper's cannot comment on any politicians personal or political life it is FORBIDDEN. This is what Ed Miliband and John Prescott and the rest of them are after they want the FREEDOM OF OUR PRESS TAKEN AWAY, this cannot be allowed to happen we live in a democracy and quite frankly without the Freedom of the Press where would we get the gossip from, let's have a little reminiscence of what we would have missed without the press's freedom.Would we have been told about John Prescott buying a street of Corporation houses whilst he was in power, ethically and morally he knew it was wrong, he put them in his sons name.Would we have found out about the Expenses Scam both in Parliament and the House of Lords!!!.Would we know that Tony Blair left government with a property Portfolio of 12.5 Million pounds on a 200k per year salary!!!.Would we have known that Gordon Brown sold off our Gold Reserves!!!.Would we know about the Duck Pond!!!Would we know that the Iraq War need not have happened!!!I could go on and on, the answer will still be a great big NO!!We cannot allow Parliament to Regulate our Press, by all means have a Panel set up completely outside of Politics just don't allow the Politicians to take our Press's Freedom AWAY. They try to run roughshod over us as it is without the newspapers being able to report who, when and how we will be at the Politicians mercy.

Dawn Hardy ● 5142d

I have avidly watched both the BBC and Sky News also Ed Miliband all day and all day long it has been a repetition of attempting to destroy a good man David Cameron. If I were Mr.Cameron I would without doubt hand over the proposed sell off of BSkyB to OFCOM right now, have them make the decision rightly or wrongly, as far as Andy Coulson,Mandy Mandelson was forgiven 4 times and ended up a Lord preferential treatment should not happen in this day and age. It would seem however that if you are a Labourite then it is acceptable!!!Do you know what I would do I would employ a private team to put together a timeline of this phone hacking over the last decade ever since it first came to light,of course names can not be mentioned, legal action might yet be taken. However a good synopsis of events could be shown, we the public really have little knowledge of it except for the dreadful allegation of Milly Dowler's phone having been hacked let's be quite clear on this, these are at this moment in time ALLEGATIONS.Pay both the BBC and Sky to show it. We the public would I assure you watch and listen with great interest as to how under Labour this alleged dreadful practice was allowed to continue. The Express and Daily Star were also raided today, tomorrow it could be the Mail, Telegraph certainly not the Liberal Guardian. You, Sir have done nothing illegal so don't you dare to even contemplate resignation!!! neither I nor the rest of the people in our wonderful country could put up with another 13 years of Labour destruction. Fight by God fight, don't let them win.

Dawn Hardy ● 5144d

Ed Miliband is playing a Political Game, I have been watching him on Sky for the last 13 minutes and have come away feeling sick, this chap tells us that he is looking out for the people and how outraged we are, yes I am appalled at these allegations however they are at this moment in time allegations. WHY??? has it taken him or Prestcot 6 years to make a stand. He is now calling for the Press Complaints Committee to be scrapped and replaced by a new body with investigative powers!!! would this be a committee with MP's, I think not!!! they themselves betrayed our trust with there expenses scam.David Cameron is to hold a news conference at 9.30 a.m. and yet Mr.Miliband is even now standing at Thomas-Reuters given a free political motivated speech.WHY!!! the hell should David Cameron apologize for employing Andy Coulson,should Mr.Cameron and his wife be taken to task being friends with Rebekah Brooks,this is not an overnight friendship it goes back many many years. What makes Ed Miliband think he has the right to choose who the Cameron's can be friends with.Next he will be suggesting that it is all David Camerons fault and that he should resign and Labour should take control of Parliament in your dreams mate. NO!! I am not taking sides I really am not both parties should have been working together years ago to sort out these dreadful allegations, Ed Miliband and Prescott have been on both BBC and Sky practically the whole day and night, what has happened to the rest of the news that we should have been told about. What Ed should remember is that on Wednesday many other newspapers where named after question time, he should be careful it does not come back and bite him on the bum!!! All the media coverage of this scandal and I have yet to see an ordinary every day person asked there opinion, so Ed please don't keep telling us that you are acting for we the outraged citizens we have not been given the opportunity to voice an opinion.And yes many many people are angry about the News of the World closing but do not forget that you had a big hand in that, I can also see the probability of the Sun going, how many redundancies will that amount to. Go do what we pay you to do and play at politics in the house not in front of a TV camera.

Dawn Hardy ● 5145d