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Is this the latest development in the drive for a borough-wide CPZ?

Not a Brentford issue, but those who have followed the saga of the Grove Park CPZ may find this little story interesting.Here in Isleworth we have for many years had our own CPZ in place which operates only on rugby match days.  Because it was designed with a specific purpose in mind – preventing visiting rugby supporters from occupying valuable resident parking space whilst games are in progress – it works rather well, and the CPZ is popular with local residents.However, the funding for the scheme was provided solely by the Rugby Football Union at no cost to the local authority and hence no cost to residents.  Residents had to apply for a parking permit, but there was no charge.That was always the deal, and they were the terms upon which the CPZ was agreed, cross-party, by the then Isleworth & Brentford Area Committee.Last week it was brought to my attention by a local resident (I have a copy of the letter) that the London Borough of Hounslow is now asking for money for a renewal of the parking permit – a scale of charges starting at £60 for one car.  No prior warning, no consultation.  Presumably the reason why no prior discussion with residents was considered necessary was that this was an existing CPZ rather than a new scheme per se.  But the terms of the agreement have been fundamentally altered.This is in Isleworth ward, as well as in neighbouring Hounslow South.  I was wondering whether our lords and masters at Lampton Road, or any of their cheerleaders on this forum, would care to comment?

Phil Andrews ● 4464d49 Comments

Afew months back on this site (I'd actually forgotten about it) someone by the name of John Kerr, who has never posted since, posted several increasingly rude messages about me, focusing upon my previous role at Hounslow, accusing me of professional impotence and such like, even though he'd never met me and despite me providing some very detailed and informative explanations about the intricacies of planning enforcement.In the end, I said he was talking bollocks, because, quite simply, he was.  And all of a sudden this guy tries to take the moral high ground and moans at me about using "improper language" despite for many posts before making various completely unjustified and offensive comments about my professional capabilities.To be clear, I'm all for professionalism.  As my career developed public perception became increasingly important to me.  I'm openly critical of people, including friends of mine, who in my view show poor judgement skills by posting things on social media sites relating to their happiness in their jobs.  Indeed, that's precisely the reason why, if I was still a Council Officer, I wouldn't ever post on these forums and nor would I allow any of my staff to do so - because to be blunt there's always some awkward sod out there who's going to kick up a stink because they are going to claim they couldn't distinguish between someone posting in their capacity as a Council employee and as a member of the public...sad but true.But I think it's very different when two people who are, quite simply, only members of the public like you and I, and are not Council employees or serving Councillors, have a little online tiff with each other, and one of them posts a relatively common swear word well after the watershed.I don't agree about journalists and children reading, it's not like anyone is stood outside a school at 3pm cursing and swearing, and I'm the first person to tell other people to watch their language if I hear bad language in a public place during daylight hours - as my Mrs. says it's a wonder I never get into fights given the fact I'm never afraid to give people a mouthful for swearing in public (I am very much your straight talking Northerner), and only recently gave some idiot a right telling off for urinating within the car park ramp of the development where I live only to receive a comical outburst of physical threats littered with four letter swear words.  But bearing in mind that with the tap of a couple of keys children can watch porn, torture and pretty much anything at any time of day, a sense of perspective is needed.

Adam Beamish ● 4460d

I'm sorry Vanessa but a little humility is called for here on the part of those responsible.  Blaming the recipients or suggesting that those who may have paid don't have any sense is not good enough.You say it was not a mistake, but a blanket letter has been sent out to people who should not have been sent it.  Accepting, as I think we all do, that this was not done deliberately, what else is that but a mistake?It is not enough to say that people who have paid are "entitled" to a refund.  That suggests the onus is on them to claim it, and we all know the hoops that local people will have to jump through to get any kind of action from the London Borough of Hounslow.  I once had to send them a Notice of Court Action to get them to send me £8.50 that they had been ordered several months previously to pay me in costs by the Parking and Traffic Appeals Service.As ward councillor and as Lead Member Ed should be insisting that the Traffic section identifies all those who have been sent these notices and issues them with a correction forthwith.  He should also be insisting that anyone who has paid the Council in response to these erroneous demands is reimbursed immediately, irrespective of whether or not a refund has been requested.Anything less than this amounts to accepting money from residents under false pretences.Additionally this incident has highlighted another issue which has long been a bugbear of mine, and that is this local authority's total inability to ever apologise to anybody, even in cases such as this where they are so clearly in the wrong.It is as though they fear that an apology is an admission of fallibility and thus a threat to the God-like status that they (and they alone) imagine they enjoy.  In fact I honestly don't think I can recall the last time when I heard a senior council officer, or a local politician, or any of their mouthpieces on forums such as this, ever use the "s" word.An ability to apologise when one is wrong is not a weakness, it is a strength.  To lack that ability is to demonstrate insecurity, and a false sense of one's own importance.A little less arrogance and a little more leadership would be a source of some reassurance right now.

Phil Andrews ● 4462d