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Personally I think ID cards would be a huge waste of taxpayers money.The argument "well if you haven't done anything wrong, you haven't got anything to hide" is often used to justify them, however the problem with this argument is that it can be used to justify almost anything.  I mean, why have ID cards? Why not have everyone chipped like a dog? It would certainly be more secure. "Why not? If you haven't done anything wrong, you haven't got anything to hide. "I also haven't heard any good explanation of what these cards are for other than pandering to the latest tabloid scare stories about illegal immigration or terrorism.France has ID cards and more illegal immigrants than the UK.Would ID cards have defeated terrorism in N Ireland?  The security services knew exactly who the "players" were - catching them with evidence to convict was the problem.ID cards won't replace driving licenses or passports because they aren't intended or designed to do this.  These documents will still exist as valid forms of identity.  ID cards won't replace any other piece of plastic in your pocket - credit cards, supermarket loyalty cards, gym membership card, Oyster card, season ticket... so what are they for?  Credit card fraud? Banks and credit card companies should produce more secure products - not get the taxpayer to pay for this. Benefit fraud?  Why do we need a universal identity card for this?Another thing I've never understood is in countries where it is compulsory to carry ID, is there special dispensation for certain situations?  If the police checked the French rugby team when they were playing in Stade de France, would they find ID cards in all the players' shorts?I think ID cards come from Mr Blunkett's authoritarian tendencies, stoked up by IT companies who can see big fat contracts.

Michael Robinson ● 7443d

Back to the benefit system first. I agree with Vanessa that there are many people in the UK who contribute nothing but exist very nicely on benefits paid for by those of us who do work and contribute.  I have no wish for anyone to be without money no matter who they are or where they come from and I have no wish to see the level of benefits reduced BUT I do feel that those who have contributed regularly and put more into the pot should receive more when they retire.  I understand that this is supposed to be the case in any event as a result of SERPS and all that but as I said previously, those who do not get the higher pension because they have made smaller contributions then receive the benefit credit to make it up and those who have made the higher contributions and receive the higher pensions don't.  Therefore those who have paid the most in do not appear to end up any better off than those who have not (possibly that section of the community who have managed to avoid legal work from the cradle to the grave).  Where is the justice in that.  In any event my query particularly relates to the influx of people as a result of joining the EEC.  What sort of a daft system is this country operating if we are in a position where anyone in the EC can come and work for a short while and then be entitled to the same benefits as someone who has worked and paid in all their life?  The person I was referring to in my earlier posting will never be destitute.  She owns two properties in Poland which were purchased with the money she earned in England whilst not having to contribute to our benefit system.  As far as I am aware (unless there has been a recent change) only Polish nationals are entitled to own property in Poland therefore I could not even go there and buy a home let alone receive benefits which as I said earlier they do not have in any event.  Now back to ID cards.  It's interesting how David Blunkett and other politicians in favour have mentioned in tv interviews that a poll suggests that 80% of the population are in favour of ID cards.  There are only (I think) posting from 7 individuals on this thread but out of those there is 1 in favour, 1 undecided and 5 against.  I think that is a more typical feeling amongst the public than the 80% being bandied about.Interestingly when we had the referendum in 197(?) as to whether we should join the common market the result was 2/1 for across the country.  However I am still waiting to meet someone willing to admit that they voted to join.  I voted no, my father and mother and sisters voted no, my husband voted no as did all his family.  At that time my father in law ran the Inverness Lodge club and every customer in the place reckoned they had voted no.  Do we actually believe the statistics that politicians bandy around and do we believe that votes in this country are never rigged to suit?

Bernadette Paul ● 7451d