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Oliver on the High Street

If it is desired to continue this debate I thought it best to separate it from the meeting up topic.I didn’t see your comment as rude Oliver, so no apologies needed and a conversation over a beer is always helpful. To continue from the relevant postings:Oliver Damianni:Apologies for rudeness but I would like to come along myself, not least so I can meet up with Nigel who I hold largely responsible for the hold-up of the redevelopment of the high street. I have read his arguments on a number of occasions on this site and must profess that i fail to properly understand his line of reasoning. Maybe a conversation over a beer would help?! Meantime I can't help but wonder whether Nigel feels some responsbility when visiting the High Street and seeing the abject state of the place the lack of investment and the failing businesses. This is all a direct consequence of what seems to me unneccessary delays in a much needed redevelopment. Nigel seems to be Brentford's (annoyingly successful so far) King Kanute, trying to turn back the tide...clearly this can't last for ever, and I would appreciate getting Nigel's take on the situation.Neil Chippendale:Oliver,Please feel free to come along. The main problem with the lack of progress on the Brentford South Side isn't Nigel it's the fact that you have two competing companies who have each purchased large chunks of land and who never seem to talk to each other.Alan Sheerins:The redevelopment has been delayed because until very recently the land was in the hands of more than one developer. I very much admire Nigel and his fight to retain traditional industry and prevent the over-development of Brentford. He is not to blame him for the slow pace of this re-development.Oliver Damianni:incorrect.nigel's endless attempts to whip up petitions and objections would occur (and will remain a feature no doubt) whether there are one or several developers involved. ...........................................Quite frankly, I’d be highly gratified to think I was responsible for holding up the proposal for the High St that was around for a good number of years. It was a deplorable and destructive scheme that could only have made matters worse. However as Neil and Alan have noted, I can’t take that credit.Brentford’s High St is a complicated issue that has been seen as a problem for centuries, and the sad state we see it in today is a direct result of the well-meaning efforts of the post-war predecessors of this Council. As the architect Terry Farrell has commented ruefully, had the High St been left alone in the first place, Brentford Town Centre would now be a more successful, profitable, attractive and sought after destination than any of our neighbours.Perhaps I should clarify that I am not against redevelopment? The drab 1950’s block buildings both north and south could do with demolishing and sympathetic re-building, though how much that would encourage new and healthier businesses and shops I’m not qualified to say. Looking at how slow they have been to take up the new opportunities around the ideally located recent canalside developments, that appears uncertain.As things stand at the moment, as has been the case for years, no businesses are able to invest properly in any of the south High St shops, because their leases are restrictive in temporal terms, owing to the perceived Council need to be able to clear them out when there is something to take their place.Much the same reasoning has contributed to the steady eradication of the businesses behind the High St. They were bought out so that land parcels could be put together for redevelopment, and the smaller premises, if let at all, let on short term leases that make any long term contribution or investment impossible. The dereliction is deliberate, exactly as is the case with Commerce Road.The reason why Neil’s and Alan’s comments on disparate land ownership is pertinent lies with the Council’s desire to see the regeneration take place as a whole, not piecemeal. Because of that they had made it a legal requirement that ownership of the whole be under the one umbrella. For so long as that could never be achieved, planning consent was withheld. You are of course perfectly correct that I would have made my noises regardless of whether there were one or many developers, but that has not affected the situation.In this context it might be helpful to realise that for years there have NOT in fact been any developers concerned. “Brentford Town Centre Ltd” was a loose consortium of foreign investors looking to acquire a sufficient block of holdings, gain planning consent for a scheme, then auction it off piecemeal to “real” developers. The Council didn’t play that game, the consortium couldn’t deliver what the Council demanded, ergo collapse of that little band of speculators and resultant sales of parcels to yet more overseas investors.I believe that the necessary regeneration will stand more chance of gradual success if the Council approve an overall vision, and allow rebuilding incrementally within existing title blocks. It was in great part the wholesale obliterating nature of the “original” scheme that made such development impossible.So far as my own contribution is concerned, Alan has accurately identified that it is an attempt to have any redevelopment be a successful one that contributes positively to existing and traditional industry, retaining and restoring as much as possible of Brentford’s largely lost character, recognising that much of that owes more than a nod to the waterside with its traditional links to the High St, and that for sustainable growth of a living waterfront, supporting businesses must be encouraged to continue and to grow.

Nigel Moore ● 7354d46 Comments ● 7311d

Brentford: What's on this month October: a calendar attempt!!

NEW NOTIFICATION: Add your new event here..at the topoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooTHEN perhaps do a COPY..and PASTE a reply of this second part..(including your own event information in date order) We can correct things as we go along.where necessary.Let's have a go!ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooMon   2nd  Grab those left over plants/ bulbs from Boston Manor Park!!Mon   2nd  Trad Jazz Club  Griffin Park Stripes Bar £5 good wall photos! 8.30/11pmTues  3rd  Jazz at the Brewery TapWed   4th  Meet up with Neil (Brentfordian on hols from OZ) Magpie 8pmThurs 5th  Jazz at the Brewery Tap  8.30pm – 11pmThurs 5th  The Isleworth Society members meeting..so join! 7.30pm Public Hall.Sat   7th FARMERS MARKET relaunched  10am till 2pm (Scotch egg bonanza!!)Sat   7th  Brentford Football v Bristol City (H) 3pmThurs 12th Isleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Planning) 7.30pm Free Church Hall Boston Manor Road.Fri   13th Police meeting  Green School, Busch Corner at 7pm Syon Ward PoliceSat   14th  Farmers MarketThurs 19th   7.30-9.30pm Battle of Brentford talk (St Paul’s Church Hall)Thurs 19th  Osterley Residents meeting..guest speaker Chris Calvi-Freeman (Head of Transport at the Civic Centre..and helpful forum regular) St Mary’s church hall TW7Sat   21st  Farmers marketSat   21st  Brentford Football v Gillingham (H) 3pmFri   27th Debbie's Fund Raising Party at the Copacabana Club, Ferry Quays. £5 tickets from Debbie or £10 on the door. We really ought to go!!   New Venue, new Brentford, and a very good cause,Sat   28th Farmers marketSun   29th  SYON PARK (house?)"Stuart Syon at the time of the 10th Earl of Northumberland" - Demonstrations, re-enactments and children's activities plus guided Garden tours to see the autumn colours.Tues  31st  Full Borough Council meeting. Go along or watch the webcast ..live!!Also: see Waterman’s Art Centre programme.Also: Copocabana Club!Also: Thomas Layton exhibition at Gunnersbury Park MuseumAlso: Kew Steam MuseumAlso: Visit the local Houses, Osterley,Syon,Boston Manor, Chiswick,              Hogarth, Kew Palace.Also: visit the local Libraries..especially the local archives sections!Also: Jazz Tues ,Thursdays and perhaps Sundays too at the BT.oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooSuggestion; Copy and paste the above list when you make your own additions..and this will kept the months events in order ..for easy reference. Let’s experiment!

Jim Lawes ● 7342d26 Comments ● 7312d

Livingstone's new powers -?

The TW8 newslines have noted Hounslow's objection to the new powers the Mayor wants over planning issues. The immediacy of the effects of such can be gauged by the fact that the last two major developments the Council turned down have had their schemes supported by the Mayor, even to voluntary support at Public Inquiries in opposition to the Council.If you have a view, the following message I received this evening may assist you making it heard -12 days to stop the Mayor's power grab Most Londoners are still not aware that the Government's consultation on new planning powers for the Mayor of London ends on the 2nd of November. It is very important that Londoners understand how these proposed changes would affect them and respond to this consultation.In July the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government Ruth Kelly announced that she was giving a raft of new powers to the Mayor over planning, housing and waste management. A Bill to legislate for the changes is expected to be introduced into Parliament in November 2006.Under the proposals the Mayor will become a one-man planning authority able to approve any planning application considered "strategic" regardless of the wishes of local councillors and local communities. He will be able to overrule any council's decision and effectively deprive local communities of their ability to influence what gets built in their neighbourhood.The definition of "strategic" could also be widened, enabling the Mayor to take over planning decisions simply because a local council will not decide a scheme the way the Mayor wants it decided. The Mayor will also be able to force boroughs to change their local development plans to conform with his planning priorities and override local consultations on planning policies.Most people believe that the Mayor already has sufficient powers in being able to direct refusal of a planning application. The 33 London councils have tried and tested consultation processes to involve local residents and businesses in the decision-making process. Local councillors take their quasi-judicial powers seriously and within planning law. Also the Secretary of State has the power to call-in any application of more than local importance. The process of calling-in involves public inquiry which gives local residents a chance to be heard by an inspector. Under the new legislation anyone objecting to the planning application taken over by the Mayor will be denied their right to a fair hearing. Government decision to strip powers away from locally elected London councils and hand them to Mayor Livingstone is an attack on local democracy. These proposals would give the Mayor an unprecedented power and control over day-to-day lives of Londoners. The London Assembly had been given few extra scrutiny powers. Big decisions affecting a local community should be taken within that community, by people accountable to the community. That is the principle of local democracy. There are no checks and balances in giving such powers to a sole individual. Mr Livingstone's track record gives little confidence that he will listen to local residents when it comes to the local dimension of planning matters or that he will be able to separate his strategic interests from being a one-man planning authority. The Mayor has a record of promoting certain types of development, such as tall buildings. This could jeopardise his ability to make objective decisions on specific proposals and could also lead to developers creating designs that they think will please the Mayor. Many Londoners believe that these new powers have given the green light to a high rise London and would mean an explosion in tower blocks and skyscrapers across the capital that local councils would never have permitted. The City of London warned that "UK planning laws and procedures are complicated enough already. To add new layers of complication in central London, with no discernible benefit to London's economy and prosperity, is a real worry." Setting up a new planning bureaucracy at City Hall would also mean Londoners can expect a rise in their council tax bills.The Government has already consulted on these new powers for the Mayor in July. A summary of the responses reveals that  the planning proposals attracted the greatest interest among respondents to the consultation. Most supported no change, or only minimal change, to the current arrangements.Also the survey of a thousand Londoners commissioned by the Association of London Government on behalf of London's 33 local authorities reveals that the majority of the capital's residents disagree with Government plans to give the Mayor of London powers over strategic planning applications in London. These opinions were completely ignored by the Government.Londoners should write to DCLG (Department for Communities and Local Government) raising their objections to policy proposals that will further reduce the power of local communities to shape their own futures.The current consultation asks Londoners for comments on the Government's proposals in three specific areas:1.      Do you agree with the Government's proposals on thresholds for referral of planning applications to the Mayor?2.      Do you consider the policy test provides a clear basis for the Mayor to decide whether he should take over a planning application?3.      Do you agree with the new procedures for handling planning applications in London? You can read this consultation paper online at the DCLG website:www.communities.gov.uk/consultationshttp://www.communities.gov.uk/index.asp?id=1501733 Let's use the 14 days that are left to send a clear message to the Government: No more power to Ken!Please send your response to the Government: The existing thresholds for referral of planning applications to the Mayor are sufficient. The existing policy test for the Mayor to refuse a planning application is sufficient, I strongly object to the Mayor being able to take over decision on a planning application from local authorities. I strongly object to the new procedures for handling planning applications in London. Big decisions affecting a local community should be taken within that community, by people accountable to the community. I do not believe the decisions made by the Mayor on so called 'strategic' applications would be objective. The new procedures would mean local residents would be denied their right to a fair hearing. They would also add a new, costly layer of beaurocracy which would only benefit a small number of big developers to the disadvantage of ordinary Londoners. The Mayor of London should not be given the power to take over strategic planning applications from local authorities.Your feedback should be sent to: gla.review@communities.gsi.gov.ukOr write to:Rt Hon Ruth Kelly MPSecretary of State at the Department for Communities and Local GovernmentEland HouseBressenden PlaceLondon SW1E 5DU

Nigel Moore ● 7320d18 Comments ● 7313d