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Mogden Residents' Liaison Meeting - proposed site expansion

Just in case the original posting is deleted...Residents who attended the Thames Water Mogden Liaison meeting this week claim it to be a sham with an agenda geared towards Thames Water's own marketing strategy  that left little time for residents to get explanations as to what is going so horribly wrong at the site with the ongoing stench and communications problems.One resident  was astounded by some of the things heard from Thames Water.  For example the proposed massive expansion of the site to increase daily sewage capacity and to conform to EC directives, in order to prevent fines,  is being rushed, with its public display being on show, on week days only, in Isleworth Public Library on 21th, 22nd & 24th May, less than two weeks away.  There was nothing planned for anywhere in Richmond Borough for residents who experience the current ongoing problems from the site. Thames Water maintained  that the site is in Hounslow borough and did not appear to recognise that the odour as well as mosquitoes do not have any respect for  Borough boundaries.Despite all the odour problems recorded by Richmond borough residents in April, the Mogden Communications team had no idea what residents were talking about although odour and mosquito complaints are supposedly being investigated and logged.On the issue of who is receiving, or will receive,  newsletters regarding the current Odour Improvement Programme and mosquito campaign the Mogden Communications Team was vague and didn't appear to know how or to whom the newsletter will be distributed. It would appear there is no communications process in place to effectively deal with matters on which the public should be kept informed.In the meantime MRAG Chairman,  Dr Trevor Whittall, has made it clear that, before any proposals for expansion of Mogden are considered,  residents  want the Odour Improvement Plan finished and evaluated first.  MRAG is not opposed in principle to expansion of capacity to deal with flooding,  as it should reduce the use of storm tanks, but we want a delay on construction until 2009 - not only to ensure the Odour Improvement Programme has worked, but to ensure residents around the plant do not experience undue disruption. Also,  we want assurances the catchment area will not be enlarged and that the remaining storm tanks will be enclosed.Thames Water is currently refusing to divulge how often the Storm Tanks are being used. Until Thames Water changes its stance on transparency and sets itself reasonable targets on odour elimination, expansion of the site is not an option and will be opposed vehemently by residents.Thames Water needs to address its current stance in dealing with issues which affect the communities of Hounslow and Richmond.  Over the last few years residents have seen many staff changes at Thames Water with key personnel resigning, being replaced or transferred. Residents have had to deal with no fewer than four  Managing Directors, four Mogden Operations Managers, five Mogden Catchment Managers, two Environmental directors and an astounding eight communications consultants as communications with the current regime are worse than ever before.Mogden Residents Action Group (MRAG)www.mogden.org.ukFor News and Views on local community issues visit http://www.twickenham-online.co.uk/

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Massive expansion plans for Mogden - have your say!

I've reposted the following for MRAG because I fear their contribution will be deleted as it is not posted under the name of a specified individual, which I believe is contrary to the rules.  Anyway, here it is:Dear Residents,You may possibly be aware that Thames Water intends to submit a planning application shortly to increase works at their Mogden Plant, and they are to give a brief presentation explaining why they intend to do so, if permission is granted, at the next meeting of the Isleworth and Brentford Area Committee on the 17th May to be held  in the Brentford Free Church, Boston Manor Road, Brentford on Thursday, 17 May 2007 at 7:30 pmAs Chair of this committee, I have decided to limit them to speak for just five or 10 minutes maximum so members of the public can then have enough time to ask them the questions they feel matter and, as most residents are now excluded from residents liaison meetings with Thames Water, I hope as many as possible will take this opportunity to do so.Unfortunately, as an MRAG committee member as well as being involved in the legal action against Thames, I have to declare a declaration of interest during this part of the evening and the Vice Chair Jon Hardy will preside over this part of the agenda.Since becoming Chair of this Area Committee, I have always tried to encourage as much participation from the public as possible at our meetings and I sincerely hope that many of you will be able to attend?The meeting starts at 7.30pm on Thursday 17th May and I would expect the Thames Water Presentation to begin at approximately 8.30pm but please feel free to come earlier if you wish as we have many other items on the agenda.Kind RegardsCllr Paul Fisher (Isleworth Ward)Chair Isleworth and Brentford Area Committee MRAG notes:Thames Water is seeking planning permission to increase Mogden capacity from 690 megalitres per day to 1074 megalitres per day.  In 1999 Thames Water completed major expansion of Mogden to increase capacity from 450 ml/d to 810 ml/d to cater for the additional sewage following its closure of Kew STW. However we believe this expansion failed inasmuch as  following completion the Environmental Agency only consented to 690 ml/d. Following the expansion, Thames Water became incapable of controlling odour from the site which resulted in an abatement notice being served which resulted in lengthy legal proceedings whereby Thames Water attempted to defend its right to permit odour to escape its premises as part of its normal operation.In its defence Thames Water asserted that  "although the area is in part residential, it is dominated by the works"In its defence Thames Water argued that there was no requirement for sewage works to have a formal Odour Management Plan.The judge ruled that there existed and continues to exist an odour which amounts in law to a nuisance.The current odour improvement programme will only reduce odour by approximately 50% (as recorded by MP Dr Vince Cable)Only 2 of 8 storm tanks are being covered  although the tanks are almost in constant use.Thames Water will not invest from its own profits to complete the job properly. Thames Water has no plans to cover the remaining 6 Storm Tanks which will remain open.Thames Water will submit that Odour Control for the expansion of the site will remain the same as that currently employed.There is no plan to investigate the use of the latest technology available for odour control.Thames Water has refused to set targets for odour reduction.Thames Water has refused to invite  the MRAG Committee to its Residents Liaison meetingsThames Water has refused to change the date of the next liaison meeting and opted for the date they were aware the Council's Lead Member for Environment and Planning is away.Residents submit that the results of the current  odour improvement program should be evaluated on completion at the end of 2008 before any expansion of the site can be considered?

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A letter from Kabul from the Chaplain

A letter home from the front.I ache too but more from playing the Canadians at ball hockey in the gymover the weekend - I am getting too old!! At the moment I am stuck in Kabul- non-RAF friendly snow.  Apart from that I am fine on the whole though Ihave lowered my expectations of personal achievement here so thefrustrations of the senior chaplain role and herding cats [chaplains] weighsless heavily.  I count as my main achievement so far as getting another 3chaplains for the army brigade that follows - we have been veryunderstaffed. Things are going reasonably well for us out here - our deaths have been 7which is lower than perhaps we expected - we have the repatriation of MaineHollands body this week - he was killed in a mine strike.  IN spite of thesetragedies, the Royal Marines continue to enjoy the job too which isheartening and having spent some time with those returning from Iraqrecently I think that has to do with a sense of purpose.  At least herethere continues to a sense of cooperation, international consensus anddirection.  The job is very hard but achievable, though the Taliban "springoffensive" whatever that may be will be a key time to work through withoutbeing deflected from the reconstruction effort. The main effort in the helmand where we are is to set the conditions forrebuilding the Kajaki dam and hydro electric system which will power a largepart of the country and provide indirectly alternative forms of employmentthan poppy growing.  We have an American man embedded with us ( a very niceand gently spoken person - not very American) he is known as the poppykiller and is to coordinate the eradication programme.  We agree it is awaste of time at this stage since the eradication will probably affect thosewho support the government worst and the Taliban least.  The alternatives topoppy are not great though saffron is being touted  as a possible solution asit is low bulk high value and does not need brilliant transport links.Ultimately i always think controlling supply is a waste of time - its thedemand that needs dealing with. My successor has been out for a recce,  which is something wish i had had.At least i have been able to arrange such things for the army and show themhospitality that was denied me.  One needs to have a view of the country anda chance to catch up with the state of play at all the different locationsbefore embarking on this sort of job. I continue to have a steady flow of people coming forward for baptisms andconfirmations - though getting the bishop out here has proved frustrating somy plan is for a post tour expenses paid trip for everybody to Windsorcastle where the bishop to the forces is Dean and he can do a job lot thereand entertain us for the day.  I think that will be a special occasion foreverybody. The International side of life can be amusing here.  In Kandahar we havequite a mixture - US, Canadian, Dutch, Romanian, a few Jordanians.   TheDutch general in charge of RC south has a hard time.  The Canadian stancehas become understandably defensive and aggressive given the level of theircasualties compared to others.  Some of them seem intent on outflanking theAmericans in the trigger stakes.  Given some time things will settle and Ihave made some good friends with them - particularly with some of the frenchCanadians interestingly.  The international chaplains meeting exposes somewonderful contrasts in US/Canadian humour and world understanding.  TheAmericans want to "sanitise" the church ie remove all religious symbols incase somebody is offended - the Canadian psychiatrist suggested they comeand see him about religious phobia issues.  The need for permanent religioussymbolism was defended most vehemently by the Dutch Humanist "its a churchfor God's sake what do people expect" and he irritates the Americans now bygoing round replacing crosses where he thinks they should be. I continue my cycle of movements between Kabul Kandahar and the Helmand butsadly the air miles card doesnt work here!!  I hope you are well Vic andlook forward to seeing you when its over. I had better end now and go and do the padre's rounds with a free day ididnt expect to have - could go collect the entertainers for the CSE showmmm well see. D

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