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Wakey ,wakey its a glorious morning!!

The 4.45am aircraft have passed over (don't they get fined for arriving at Heathrow before 5am?)..and the views over the Park are just magic.Its 6am..and already I have seen a half dozen separate groups  in their Nik/Adidas trainers...doing their fast walking early morning exercise.around and in the Park. Their doctors will be most impressed. And you?...snore snore.I'm just off to bed.. But what time do you people get up?  0;)

Jim Lawes ● 7270d5 Comments ● 7266d

Sponsor a replacement street tree scheme?

The Isleworth & Brentford Area Committee were given a presentation on the subject of street trees, last year during which the subject of the sponsored tree replacement scheme was mentioned.  The minutes to the meeting suggest that no details were given to the committee members during the presentation.  I could not find any details in the minutes to inform me of how to find out about this scheme.The question concerning the replacement of street trees is probably a frequent one as the LBH’s street trees are dying and are not being replaced.  People genuinely think that they will be replaced and there are times when they might be happy to contribute to the replacement?If I wanted to sponsor a replacement tree outside my house, how much would it cost?  Is there a choice of trees I can choose from?  Where are the details of how to apply under this scheme?Could the Council not apply for some environmental grant under the lottery to replace trees?  The report to B & I committee underlined the significance of trees including the absorption of noise - planes and roads cause significant noise pollution.  They also absorb air pollution ... need I say any more ... ?In some places trees act as bollards, preventing drivers from driving along the pedestrian footpaths and cracking slabs as they go.  This is turn saves the paving slab replacement men from a wasted job, or more importantly, people unsteady on their pins from tripping over the big dips in the smashed slabs. ... crumbs! Haven't I heard this before ... somewhere?

Sarah Felstead ● 7267d1 Comments ● 7267d

"Free web pages for local groups": FoBM ?

From the front page..on the right hand side..you can open the item on "Free Web Pages for Local groups"Listed there is a website for "Friends of Boston Manor" but if you click  on that link...you finish up on a website in the USA!I have already written to the Editor..probably a week ago....so this a  a further..hopefully helpful...report. Hope I haven't mis-read the matter.

Jim Lawes ● 7278d6 Comments ● 7267d

The Battle of Britain Part 2

http://www.tfa.net/I guess poor tony has been caught between a rock and a hard place?

Anthony Sorbet ● 7269d4 Comments ● 7268d

Brentford & Chiswick Local History Journal

The next issue of the journal is now out. Worth every penny.You can buy a copy from Chiswick Library.

Neil Chippendale ● 7275d7 Comments ● 7268d

Are BA having a sale?

Where is everybody??

Rebecca Hobson ● 7268d1 Comments ● 7268d

South Ealing Road - Tuesday night

Anyone know what was happening last night? The road was blocked off just past Popes Lane, loads of police and I think I saw an ambulance.There were lots of people standing around. The pavement was taped off, looked like maybe an accident of some sort.

Rebecca Hobson ● 7269d0 Comments ● 7269d

THERAPY DAY AT THE LONDON BUDDHIST VIHARA

4TH JUNE        11AM TO 6PMThe following is a list of therapies that you will have an opportunity to try at the London Buddhist Vihara, The Avenue, Chiswick.  As usual, we will be giving 20 minute sessions at a cost of £10 per session.To be fair to all comers on the day I am only taking pre-bookings (with money) for sessions up to 2.30p.m.  Pat Smith – 0788 189 6449.All the therapists are well qualified in their own fields and are giving their time to this annual charitable event.  All funds collected will be donated to the London Buddhist Vihara.THAI YOGA THERAPYCRANIO SACRAL THERAPYHEALINGPRESSURE POINT FACIALREFLEXOLOGYINDIAN HEAD MASSAGEIRIDOLOGYAROMATHERAPYNETWORK SPINAL ANALYSISKINIESOLOGYI look forward to seeing you on Saturday.

Pat Smith ● 7270d4 Comments ● 7269d

Vanessa's Pork Pies

What next can be done about this issue.  Any thoughts?

Conal Stewart ● 7276d54 Comments ● 7269d

A joke for the first day back at work.

Morris walks out into the street and manages to get a taxi just going by. He gets into the taxi, and the cabbie says, "Perfect timing. You're just like Dave." "Who?" "Dave Aronson. There's a guy who did everything right. Like my coming along when you needed a cab. It would have happened like that to Dave." "There are always a few clouds over everybody," says Morris. "Not Dave. He was a terrific athlete. He could have gone on the pro tour in tennis. He could golf with the pros. He sang like an opera baritone and danced like a Broadway star." "He was something, huh?" "He had a memory like a trap. Could remember everybody's birthday. He knew all about wine, which fork to eat with. He could fix anything. Not like me. I change a fuse, and I black out the whole neighborhood." "No wonder you remember him." "Well, I never actually met Dave." "Then how do you know so much about him?" asks Morris. "Because I married his widow."

Paul Fisher ● 7269d0 Comments ● 7269d

London Broncos v Leigh Centurions sunday 3.00

This sunday at Griffin Park sees the Broncos take on bottom placed club Leigh.After last sundays victory over Salford the Broncos will be looking to pick up another vital 2 points and push up the table to safety.The game kicks off at 3.00, tickets priced from £12+ adults,£5+ childs +concessions, info and tickets www.londonbroncos.co.uk , or you can pay at the gate,thanks,Bill.

Bill Drinkwater ● 7275d5 Comments ● 7270d

We didn't turn up...

Sad to say Preston did not give a good account of themselves today nor did they do their season justice. The better team won on the day.We'll just have to go straight up next year and by-pass the play-offs....:0(

Keith Iddon ● 7270d4 Comments ● 7270d

Labour hold Brentford & Isleworth

She's back. Now lets see how many of my emails Anne Keen answers.

Neil Chippendale ● 7295d44 Comments ● 7271d

Article for HM magazine?

Hows about an article on keeping your cool - a survival guide to the hot weather?Before going out today I rang an elderly neighbour, as so many people do, to check she has enough shopping in.  A short walk to the shops for that extra item in this weather, could be very dangerous for her.

Sarah Felstead ● 7273d0 Comments ● 7273d

Renaming of local estate ?

I would like to know who has taken it on themselves to rename the syon estate in brentford the TREES ESTATE.I have live on the syon estate for a number of years and it has always been called the SYON ESTATE since the houses were built.

William Read ● 7539d34 Comments ● 7273d

Proud Preston expects....

Calling all ex-pat Lancastrians,Scotsmen(PNE is ,or rather was,known as the Scottish club)to raise a cheer and a glass to Preston North End on Monday and hope they overcome the Hammers.Preston have had some great Scots players over the years(George Mutch, Bill Shankly, Tommy Docherty,Archie Gemill)and deserve another chance in the top flight.They are founder members of the League,it's first winners,the winners of the first double(didn't lose a match in the league nor let in a goal in the FA cup)and one of only two clubs in the Football League who have the dispensation to never have to wear their away kit if they do not wish .They were granted this honour as they were the first champions.Anyone know who the other club is and why they have the honour too?It would also be great to have 8 sides from Lancashire in the top flight and none from Yorkshire:-)

Keith Iddon ● 7274d11 Comments ● 7273d

Come on Mr Sheerins?

Can we expect an apology from you now your Comrade Mrs Smith has let the cat out of the bag.Your Party could have saved a lot of money in legal fees amd perhaps your even having a whip round now due to these new developments?It could explain your sudden silence on this messageboard!

Paul Fisher ● 7274d3 Comments ● 7273d

Parking Meter charges in Isleworth going up 20%

Normally, outside Barclays Bank on the London Road,Isleworth the parking meters charge 20p for 15 minutes...that's 80p an hour.In a couple of weeks time the charges are to rise to 20p for 12 minutes...thats £1 per hour..a rise of 20%.Does anyone know how much is currently collected per annum in Parking fines...and how much extra money will the Council benefit by?If the Council gain an extra £1million over a year.....oh go to bed Lawsey!

Jim Lawes ● 7274d3 Comments ● 7274d

Is the Borough's Health System a financial shambles?

Is that sensational reporting in the Hounslow Chronicle Today?"The Hounslow Borough's Health System has racked up a multi-million pound debt over the past few years. The system LOCALLY has gone from £4,000,000 in debt in 2002 to £13,000,000 now!"There is a threat..it is claimed.."to divert sick people away from West Mid"Is the service plagued by scams and ...staff and Management failures and incompetance...not just in the Hospitals and GP surgeries...but at the quangos and Area Offices etc.I just cannot believe that some local GP's have been milking the the NHS for huge false expenses....whilst the Area NHS offices have failed badly.... to check whether claims from GP's, suppliers and others are honest and true.I'm told by people in the know...that some GP's (or medical practioners) send in false claims for expenses ..lets say for £20,000... which were not checked...and the GP was amazed to find a cheque in the post for that amount. So, being greedy ..he did it again and again...and our wonderful Public Servant responsible for handling these claims didn't even think it was necessary to verify them. Plain bloody stupid. How can our Council and Government Officers be happy with that state of affairs.Today's Chronicle reports on a Dr Jagdeep Gossain, a Tanzanian born doctor from Osterley who may have overclaimed £500,000 over eight years! UP TO 1998.  HE USED UP ALMOST A THIRD OF OUR LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES BUDGET!!!  Weren't these claims checked etc..I asked  my contact. "No Jim..but they are now"!    Well, only last year there was another GP in Isleworth..Spring Grove Road...who was caught doing similar things.Do these huge outflows of dosh such as thesespass underneath the noses of staff at the Civic Centre?...or in the Police service...etc ?Its OUR lolly being used up and are often kept at a distance if making enquiries.£500,000 overclaimed expenses!!!!...and no-one noticed!!!..Its a joke.I reminds me of the carbon paper scams of years gone by...when invoices for non-ever-delivered carbon paper was sent to all kinds of organisations..and amazingly lots of them coughed up...without checking.Finally..I'm concerned at the seeming rapid growth of "emergency Dental services" in the Hounslow area...and I'm just wondering whether someone ought to be investigating the growth of such services...and what are the additional financial implications for you  and I.

Jim Lawes ● 7274d1 Comments ● 7274d

'Gizza job....'

Anyone else see the wonderfully titled job advertised by the bergers of Hounslow for a 'Nappy Outreach Worker'circa £25,000 p.a of our hard earned money...and they wonder why we laugh at their missives and decisions!The main task of this job is to promote the use of towelling nappies over the use of disposable ones,a practise that recent surveys have shown has little or no environmental benefit.Wouldn't it be cheaper and more practical to give each new mother a couple of dozen nappies and a big box of washing powder and a leaflet explaining the situation to them?

Keith Iddon ● 7276d8 Comments ● 7274d

HM Magazine's Voucher for Kew Gardens  7th June

Is there potentially some confusion about the "free charge" for admission on this Special Night? The voucher on page 6 of the HM Magazine dated 26th May(I suppose you could read it on the Hounslow gov website)..is for the Opening Evening on the 7th June (only) BETWEEN 6.30pm AND 8pm.There may be other opening evenings too.The cut-out voucher is to "Admit one Adult free".  "Accompanied children are admitted free"...as always.There is just a bit of confusing text in the article which says...."The ticket is unlimited,so why not bring the whole family or a group of friends along for a sunset picnic?"Oh dear!

Jim Lawes ● 7276d3 Comments ● 7274d

Property Prices in Brentford

Just read the report on this site about local property prices. I was amazed to find out that only 44 properties changed hands in the last three months. There are so many new buildings and even more to come. Wandering round some of the new developments they appear to be pretty much empty with little sign of people actually living there. Are they all buy-to-let?Despite this every scrap of land that becomes available is having 'luxury' flats built on them - who is going to buy them?

Justin Harris ● 7276d3 Comments ● 7274d

Free computer desk to whoever will come and collect

It's the Krister workstation if you want to check it out on Ikea's website. Height is 75cm, width 88cm and depth 88cm. Free to whoever can come and uplift it.E-mail me through forum and I will get back to you as soon as I can (although I am going to the comedy club tonight so it may be tomorrow before I can respond).

Jamie Yardley ● 7274d0 Comments ● 7274d

Lost car key

This is a long shot but just in case...at the beginning of the week I hired a car which is now parked outside my house in Isleworth. I left the car unlocked for Avis to collect, leaving the key in the glove compartment along with the delivery driver's phone which he'd left in the car by mistake. When Avis came to collect it the key and phone had both disappeared. Bizarrely, 2 days later the car is still there (I expected whoever took the key to come back and nick the car). I now think it could have been a drunken prank and someone now has a key that they don't know what to do with and may just chuck it away on the street or in someone's front garden. If you happen to come across a Peugeot key with an Avis label please can you let me know- many thanks!

Caroline Riddell ● 7274d0 Comments ● 7274d

Lovely blackout blinds and curtains made locally

As the summer approaches I have been getting on with the decorating again. Having just had the bedroom re-decorated, I thought I'd have new blinds and curtains too. A local lady made excellent cream blackout blinds, beautifully fringed and floor length cream curtains with cream silk ribbon down the edges. They look incredibly professional and dress the 2 sash windows in the bedroom perfectly. Very happy to recommend her services. Very reasonable too and lovely to work with.

Ilika Shelley ● 7274d0 Comments ● 7274d

Brentford History Day...on Saturday

Isn't it a pity when dates clash? I would loved to have gone to the "history event" on Saturday amd heard the speakers..and perhaps looked at some of the old photos on view.Sadly I was away on that day..and it was also the Cup Final!Intersting item in a local newspaper the other week ..which reported on a lady who is compliling a Brentford Website  which will list all the occupants of each address along Brentford High Street...from Brentford Bridge to Kew Bridge?... to provide answers to questions like "what retail premises were at 210 Brentford High street over all the years"

Jim Lawes ● 7278d8 Comments ● 7275d

Liverpool win the European Cup

I have just seen one of the best cup finals in history. Well done Liverpool on a fantastic achievement. I can only hope that EUFA come to their senses and allow Liverpool to defend their title.By the way.... COME ON YOU IRONS ON MONDAY!!!!!

Andrew Sibley ● 7275d3 Comments ● 7275d

Who wants to be a Nappy Outreach Worker?

From the Hounslow Council Website NAPPY OUTREACH WORKER£24,114 - £25,6021 Year Fixed TermExternal funding has created an opportunity for anew innovative position of Nappy Outreach Worker aspart of the Recycling Team. You will actively promote anew incentive scheme across the London Boroughs ofHounslow and Richmond upon Thames to encouragegreater use of cloth nappies as an alternative todisposable nappies.We are seeking a person with experience in this areaof work, coupled with excellent networking, projectmanagement and communications skills who cansuccessfully promote the scheme and build networkswith local healthcare professionals.You will have experience of waste minimisationpractises and some knowledge of cloth nappy schemes.Experience of working in partnership with variousstakeholders would be useful.As well as promoting our existing service you willdevelop new promotional material and events toencourage increased participation in the Councilsservices to reduce nappy waste going to landfill.If you feel you can make a real difference in this fastmoving and challenging area of work please send fordetails and feel free to talk to the Head of WasteManagement, Richard Wood on 020 8583 5065 orPrincipal Recycling Officer, Natasha Epstein020 8583 5061.

Paul Fisher ● 7276d8 Comments ● 7275d

Clarification of New Labour propaganda

Alan Sheerins is credited with the following statement, in response to an article titled ‘Husband and wife MPs not ‘value for money’ which appeared in the Brentford & Chiswick Times.  “Her opponents should be pleased that more than £100million has been given by the Labour Government for local housing improvements.” – Alan Sheerins, vice chairman of the Brentford and Isleworth Constituency Labour Party.I hate to disillusion Alan Sheerins or anyone else but I feel that it is important to clarify that the supposed £100 million actually came from taxpayer’s contributions and not from some form of miraculous benevolence funded by New Labour. So thank you Alan Sheerins, Tony B’Liar and everyone else who happens to be part of the New Labour party machine for giving us back a little of what we have paid in over years and years. The article can be viewed at: http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/archive/display.var.563622.0.0.php

Gareth Evans ● 7283d33 Comments ● 7275d

A question for Alan Sheerins

Who has the final say on the content of the election materials you sent out into the public domain?  Is it you or is it Ann?  Does Ann even look at them?  She spends all her time in Covent Garden so I'm just wondering did she even see one of her own election flyers?

Conal Stewart ● 7283d73 Comments ● 7275d

Have the local Labour Paper had an emergency meeting?

And banned members from posting on these messageboards again believing any problems will go away in time?

Paul Fisher ● 7275d0 Comments ● 7275d

Weekly Farmer's Market IS something to boast about.

Aside from the fact that I get sick and tired of making Tesco anymore rich than they need be on a weekly basis, and the fact that its nice to not have to buy everything in plastic wrapped packs, it's great that we have this on our doorstep.  More can be done to make the Farmer's Market part of the fabric of Brentford.  Something to add to the identity of the community.I just hope that Brentford can build on it over time. It might serve to give the High Street a bit of a focus in future if it could ever be moved there.  It would be brilliant if the High Street could be buzzing centre of stalls as well as shops.  I've always thought the square in from of the Magistrates Court lacked a sense of place. 

Conal Stewart ● 7276d9 Comments ● 7275d

New Youth Football Team For Hounslow

A new youth football team has been created in Hounslow, through the efforts of local young people as well workers from the Khat Project, a local anti-drugs organisation working with Somali youth. Hassan Isse of the Khat Project helped the young people to organise a programme of educational activities, alongside Ahmed Awale, coach, and youth worker Guy Smith of the SAFE project. The young people, who train every week in Hounslow, paricipated in daily coaching over the Easter holidays, as well as educational visits from health workers and the local Police Community Safety Unit. This was achived partly through generous funding from Hounslow Youth Service's PAYP programme.The club aims to offer young people not just the opptunity to participate in football, but also diversonary and educational activities aimed at improving life chances and reducing the risk of crime and drug use. Horseed FC which translates literally as "Pioneeers" and is the name of one of Somalia's most famous clubs, intend to enter a league competition in September and to this end, are looking for coaches, helpers, committee members and players for the new season. Anyone who is interested in helping out, or who wants to know more about Horseed FC''s programme can contact Hassan Isse on 07739 97718.

Guy Smith ● 7288d1 Comments ● 7275d

This afternoon road chaos on Great west Road/Lampton

At 3.30pm this afternoon.. the westbound carriageway of the Great West Road is still closed to traffic.... following a crash this morning near the Lampton Junction.Hopefully nobody was injured..or worse.There has been chaos today on surrounding roads with traffic blocking roads in the area to try and make progress. Gresham Road was jammed..so too Spring Grove Road, Thornbury Road, Jersey Road, Alderney Avenue,Lampton Road,  indeed everywhere near there. You may had heard reports from friends about it allI watched cars stuck westbound doing U turns over the central barriers etc..and as I crawled along I was telling motorists that they were driving towards a road block.Thankfully the radio (LBC 97.3FM) kept people posted...but so many people had no idea what was going on.It seems that the Police close roads after some accidents and seemingly take ages to take their measurements etc. I mean the Great West Road has possibly been closed for 5 hours...with such inconvenience to other road users dealing with their business  etc etc.Emergency notice would have been help in lots of places to advise drivers to "turn right at Gillettes" or go south and via A316. But no ..let them, snarl up and suffer!

Jim Lawes ● 7280d3 Comments ● 7275d

Comedy night at comedydockcom

There's another night of comedy at Brentford's newest venue, comedydockcom, on Thursday May 26th. The venue is the Waterside Bar on Brentford Dock - walk towards the Dock from Somerfield and follow the signs...

Paul Allen ● 7277d4 Comments ● 7276d

Cllr Patrick Edwards (Labour) attendance record is poor. Why?

Without wishing to be rude..or disrespectful..could someone explain to me ..and the Forum ...why Cllr Edwards attends so few meetings. How can he keep up to date with matters..and contribute to discussions?The following information is extracted from the Hounslow Council website.Meeting attendance of Councillor Patrick EdwardsTotal expected attendances: 25Present as expected:          9   36%Absent:                         16   64%Apologies received              13   81% of absencesMeeting Summary Meeting AttendanceBorough Council, 21/12/2004 PresentBorough Council, 22/02/2005 PresentBorough Council, 08/03/2005 PresentBorough Council, 24/05/2005 ExpectedBudget and Performance Scrutiny Panel, 07/12/2004 Apologies receivedBudget and Performance Scrutiny Panel, 28/02/2005 PresentBudget and Performance Scrutiny Panel, 14/03/2005 Apologies receivedBudget and Performance Scrutiny Panel, 10/05/2005 Apologies receivedDisability Community Forum, 24/01/2005 PresentDisability Community Forum, 16/03/2005 PresentGunnersbury Park Joint Committee, 10/12/2004 Apologies receivedGunnersbury Park Joint Committee, 18/03/2005 Apologies receivedIsleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Monitoring), 03/02/2005 Apologies receivedIsleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Monitoring), 31/03/2005 Apologies receivedIsleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Monitoring), 12/05/2005 Apologies receivedIsleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Planning), 02/12/2004 Apologies receivedIsleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Planning), 16/12/2004 PresentIsleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Planning), 13/01/2005 Apologies receivedIsleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Planning), 03/03/2005 Apologies receivedIsleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Planning), 14/04/2005 PresentIsleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Planning), 21/04/2005 PresentOverview and Scrutiny Committee, 02/03/2005 AbsentOverview and Scrutiny Committee, 17/03/2005 AbsentOverview and Scrutiny Committee, 18/04/2005 Apologies receivedTenants/Leaseholders Joint Consultative Committee, 17/01/2005 Apologies receivedTenants/Leaseholders Joint Consultative Committee, 29/03/2005 Absent

Jim Lawes ● 7276d2 Comments ● 7276d

Poor attendance at last Isleworth & Brentford Area Meeting?

http://213.210.33.3/mgMeetingAttendance.asp?ID=2328I was just looking up the dates and details of recent meetings..and according to the Civic Centre website a meeting was held on 12th May and only SIX Members attended...and NINE were absent!!  Post-election exhaustion?Notwithstanding ill health and clashing appointments..I wondered how the six were able to conduct their business.  I'm sure attendance records will be hot-gossip at next year's local Council elections.

Jim Lawes ● 7278d2 Comments ● 7276d

Secret address?

Do you have a secret venue hiding away in your head somewhere?I'm looking for a bar that also has some dancing.  If you were arranging a night out for about 15 people around here/Ealing/Chiswick - indeed anywhere in London, and you wanted to go somewhere that was a bar that also had music you could potentially get up and dance to if you fancied it, where would you go?I'm looking for somewhere that will feel quite cool but not so cool that a group of 35 year olds who live in London but don't go clubbing much any more will feel like old fools there!  Thank you! 

Sarah Davies ● 7282d7 Comments ● 7276d

The Informer newspaper...do you receive it?

I gather that the The Informer Newspaper is still live and... well(?) as I've seen a copy at someones premises somewhere...BUT..it hasn't been delivered to my home in North Isleworth for over 2 years. Maybe its because I have that "No junk mail" label on the front door!Do you receive THE INFORMER regularly?Yes, I do now receive the HM Magazine...after the recent outcry about distribution lapses.Never see the Guardian either. Do you?

Jim Lawes ● 7280d7 Comments ● 7276d

Mr and Mrs Keen to attend Police meeting tonight?

http://213.210.33.3/mgMeetingAttendance.asp?ID=2184On Monday evening 7pm for about 2 hours at the Civic Centre, there will be other of those valuable Community meetings with the Police.We've reported on them before. The Hounslow Community Police Consultative Group is almost an unparalleled opportunity to hear the police report on thier local operations and an opportunity to ask questions etc. Regularly there are in depth presentations.There will representatives from all manner of crime related agengies ..and representatives from Residents Groups and others.The Hounslow Council website (see meetings..and follow the leads) has all the details and the Agenda.See the impressive list of expected attendees. Mr and Mrs Keen are listed automatically but........

Jim Lawes ● 7278d7 Comments ● 7276d

Nanny wanted - July 05

Hello We are looking for an experienced nanny, for our newborn girl and 3 year old boy, for 3 days a week from July.  Hours are 8am – 5pm, with mother based at home in Chiswick.  We are offering a competitive rate of pay depending upon your qualifications or experience.  Finally, a Norwegian-speaker would be fantastic but not essential.  Please mail me for further information or with any recommendations.Many thanks.

Account suspended ● 7276d0 Comments ● 7276d

Agenda for Mondays ICSF Meeting.

ISLEWORTH COMMUNITY SAFETY FORUM MEETING AGENDA 23rd May 2005 Public Hall Isleworth @ 7.301. Chairmans intro/ welcomes/apologies for absences.1. Attendance list + circulation list (please add contact details)2. Minutes from last meeting (11th April 2005)3. Matters arising 4. The positioning of the new CCTV units in South Street.5. The recent theft of 3 x local traders vehicles and tools 6. The traffic lights that don't beep in South Street7. The latest update on works to Old Isleworth road system.8. A request for more street lights to the green and in the lower square9. The recent vandalism and breakins in the Lower Square incl The old Blue School and the paper shop.10. The man propositioning children outside Isleworth Town Primary11. The Mill Basin footpath proposition and funding available12. Proposed junction box on Twickenham Road outside Isleworth Town School13. A one-way system on Worton estate14. ASBO recommendation15. Treasurers report16. Chairmans report17. Secretary’s report inc publicity and fundraising issues18. AOB19. Confirmation of next meeting on July 18th. Please note we have a dedicated email address for any correspondence which is icsf2004@yahoo.com and a website you can find at www.icsf.biz

Paul Fisher ● 7281d3 Comments ● 7277d

A very simple question for Mr Sheerins and Ms Malhotra

As you and your colleagues now seem to have a special privilege from the Brentford Chiswick and Isleworth Times to read contributions to the letters page before printing which allows you to respond in the same edition, can I please ask you sincerely to just answer once and for all your opinions on the Keens Covent Garden expenses this week if my letter is published? I would also ask what pressure you put on the paper to be granted this exclusive right as my letter was edited last week when I asked the question as I am sure you are both aware having read it before the before the paper even went to the press?

Paul Fisher ● 7282d8 Comments ● 7277d

Cleaner/Driver wanted

Local property company are looking for a part-time cleaner to work 4 hours a day, 4 or 5 days a week to clean residential property in the London Borough of Ealing.Other duties will include delivering keys and letters.Clean Driving licence essential.Please telephone Caroline or Chris on 020 8742 7858or email chris@argyle.co.uk

Janet Lucy ● 7301d1 Comments ● 7277d

HEALING IN CHISWICK

One of the monks at the London Buddhist Vihara told me that a gentleman called in at the Vihara today hoping to get some healing.The Healing Centre that we are running at the Vihara will take place on the SECOND MONDAY of each month from 11am to 1pm.Our next session will therefore be on Monday 13th June.Look forward to seeing you then.The Blood Donor unit will be at the Vihara this coming Sunday.The following Saturday, 4th June, will be Therapy Day - I will post more details of that next week.Pat

Pat Smith ● 7277d0 Comments ● 7277d

London Broncos next 2 games

Are both at home,sunday 22 may v Salford City Reds,and sunday 29th may v Leigh Centurions,both games kick off at 3pm at Griffin Park Brentford,contact the Broncos for tickets and news on www.londonbroncos.co.uk ,thanks.

Bill Drinkwater ● 7285d5 Comments ● 7278d

Next  year's council election

How do people feel that Anne keen's re-election will affect the way they vote in the future? With the LBH council election on the horizon are you more or less likely to vote Labour because of her victory (or even that of the Labour party nationally)?I'm curious only because where I used to live in Wandsworth, where people appeared to vote very differently in local elections as they did in national elections.  People seem pretty resolute in voting Labour around here when it comes to the council.  The Lib Dems, Tories, and Independents don't get much of chance it seems.I'd stand as a Lib Dem or as an independent myself if I didn't fear that it would be a futile experience given that Brentford is firm Labour terretory.

Conal Stewart ● 7291d90 Comments ● 7278d

No apology from Labour for insulted widow and daughter

The following is reproduced with acknowledgements to the Hounslow Chronicle, in which it appeared yesterday:"Brentford & Isleworth's MP was embroiled in the first political row of her new term this week after it was revealed she sent an Isleworth cancer victim a letter of advice three years after he died."Ann Keen's office has blamed the blunder on an administrative error, saying they were not told that Richard Dyke had lost his battle with illness."Shelley Worth said her mother, Jean, was 'heartbroken' when a letter addressed to her dead father arrived at her mother's Naseby Close home a few weeks ago."The letter, dated April 4, explained that in the run-up to the election the family's case would be handled by one of Mrs. Keen's colleagues."Mrs. Worth and her sister, Frances Morgan, had written a letter on behalf of their dying father in 2002, pleading for the MP to help move him up waiting lists for an operation which would extend his life."Mrs. Keen's office this week insisted replies had been sent to the family and health professionals contacted about the case."But the daughters claim they never received any letters from Mrs. Keen."Mr. Dyke, a former London taxi driver, died aged 70 in July 2002 - months after Mrs. Keen was first approached for help."After receiving the letter last month Ms. Worth fired a furious reply to Mrs. Keen."'The reason my father has not written to you personally is that he has been dead for the past three years,' she wrote."'You can imagine, I'm sure, the sickening amount of distress your letter has caused my elderly mother.'"Speaking to the Chronicle this week, Ms. Worth, of Twickenham Road, Isleworth, said the episode had resulted in much heartache for her mum."'She was absolutely heartbroken when she opened the letter,' she said.  'My sister and I were furious.'"Mrs. Keen's office said the MP had received no formal complaint from the family."Has anybody spotted what is missing from Mrs. Keen's office's self-justifying and dismissive response?That's it - a word - "sorry".  Try it my friends - S-O-R-R-Y - it isn't that difficult!Is it really too much to ask after all the anguish which this poor family has been subjected to?

Phil Andrews ● 7281d4 Comments ● 7278d

What will Ann do with her bumper summer break?

From BBCiLast Updated: Thursday, 19 May, 2005, 11:13 GMT 12:13 UK  MPs' bumper 80-day summer break  MPs will get a longer summer break this year MPs are to have an 80-day summer break from the House of Commons. Commons leader Geoff Hoon said the House will rise on 21 July - and not return until 10 October, after the party conference season. That means the recess begins a week earlier than expected - and does not include the short sitting in September introduced in recent years. Ex-Foreign Office minister Chris Mullin said he was disappointed the Commons was reverting to such a long break. No decision for 2006 He said: "Nothing so much brings us into discredit with our constituents as the idea that we take - which is false in many cases I know - two-and-a-half months off in the summer." The reason given for the two-week September sitting being cancelled is so a new security screen can be fitted in the Commons. Mr Mullin said the shortened break should be reintroduced in 2006 to which Mr Hoon replied just because the recess was extended this year did not mean any decision had been made about the future. MPs facing criticism about the length of time they have off from Parliament point out that in many cases they spend much of recesses carrying out work in their constituencies.

Conal Stewart ● 7282d17 Comments ● 7278d

I'm forever blowing bubbles....

What about that then?

Vanessa Smith ● 7281d9 Comments ● 7279d

Thanks to the Brentford & Chiswick Times for local crime report

I'm supposed to be in a Neighbourhood Watch area..but I didn't hear from them.I'm on the local Police's  Ringmaster phone list...but I didn't hear from them about it either.I read this Brentford Website daily...but its sadly still not up and running with a Police Information page...and so didn't carry the sort of information I and others would have found useful.No, it was the good old Brentford & Chiswick Times ..that most excellent local and historic weekly publication..that I always look forward to receiving. The B&CT  contained a short article about a burglary/burglary attempt by criminals on motor cycles (and wearing crash helmets) ..bashing down front doors..with burglar alarms blaring i...and the Police not responding to desparate phone calls. Just down the road from where I live.  How else would I have known about it?Such information encourages one to "pull ones socks up" and to be extra vigilant.  Maybe there is just so much crime (although crime figures are going down!!!) the the Police Authorities are too busy to keep nuisances like me informed. (I am a bruised Victim of Crime from many incidents).

Jim Lawes ● 7281d4 Comments ● 7280d

Alfa Laval Offices

I see we have an item on agenda for this Thursday's area planning meeting of:"Former Alfa Laval Offices, Great West Road, Brentford - Pre-application presentation"Anyone have idea what this is about?Living behind the building I would be happy to be the one pressing the oversized detonation plunger!Other facts for conspiracy theorists:1.  A Barrett's manager told me some moons ago he wouldn't be suprised if this land became residental.2.  Hounslow council has been ignoring all enforcement actions regarding the building for 6 months.  I assume they have a good reason for doing this.

Steve Peake ● 7321d11 Comments ● 7280d

Yesterday's Fire at  28 The Grove, Isleworth

Hopefully nobody was injured or hurt at the fire at More House, 28 The Grove yesterday afternoon. Smoke could be seen from far away.I not sure whether the "The Lillie Road Centre" building was occupied or not.  It was a sad sight this morning to see this building on the Spring Grove Estate badly damaged and hopefully it is repairable.  It crossed my mind that the site was ideal for redevelopment :0(  

Jim Lawes ● 7281d0 Comments ● 7281d

The BCI Times and Labour.

Has a deal been struck i wonder between the Local Labour Party and the Brentford Chiswick and Isleworth Times newspaper?Over the last few weeks i have noticed reading the letters page that any contribution that mentions Ann Keen in either a good or a bad light has a response in the same edition from one or all of the following Labour stalwarts,Alan Sheerins,Seema Malhotra or the un-named spokesperson for Ann Keen?Why do the Labour Party get this special unique priviledge to review letters sent to the paper allowing them to respond the same week?A more cynical person than me would perhaps feel the paper has been threatened by them in some way to allow this practice?

Paul Fisher ● 7281d6 Comments ● 7281d

Cold Calling Voters

We all know that it was going on during the election campaign I just wonder what Alan has to say on the issue.Well Alan?

Conal Stewart ● 7281d0 Comments ● 7281d

Free courses for teenagers

My teenagers have been attending courses in the summer holidays run through LBH at West Thames College.  I have just dropped off my 15 year old for a web design course running from 10.00am to 4.00om for the whole week.  He went on the same course last year and loved it coming away with his web page ready to up-load (or what ever you do with it...).  The previous year his older brother attended the video editing course and the first aid course which he was able to use a few weeks later when a motorcyclist was hit by a car in front of him.  I think that they have some vacancies? Bookings are through their box office on 0845 456 2840.  I was under the impression that the video editing course had 2 people start this morning so they might let people start tomorrow?  It is worth asking about..

Sarah Felstead ● 7565d5 Comments ● 7281d

belly dancing classes

Do you want to learn belly dancing?Join the classes, every wednesday in chiswick at 7pm.if you are interested, send me an email with your detailsClasses stating next wednesday

Biba Mechdene ● 7308d5 Comments ● 7282d

on 10th july  05 say thanks for freedom fly  your flag with pride

SAY THANKS TO FREEDOM. 10TH JULY 2005The nation will come alive with red white and blue as thousands and thousands of victory THANKS flags are flown by the Royal British Legion to commemorate the end of World War II.Its all part of the Nations Biggest THANK YOU- your chance to express your gratitude to the hundreds of thousands of Service men and women who endured six years of sacrifice to bring us sixty years of freedom.To find out how you can say "THANKS" with your very own Victory Thanks flag, visit WWW.victorythanks.org now and join us in The Nations Biggest Thank You 0845 845 1945Thought some of you might appricate this artical.CheersDebbie

Debbie Dewar ● 7306d10 Comments ● 7282d

BIG THANKS FROM IVYTAG

ON BEHALF OFF IVYTAG AND MYSELF I WOULD LIKE TO A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE WHO DONATED STUFF TO "STARLIGHT CHILDREN WARD" AT WEST MIDDLESEX HOSPITAL.YESTERDAY MYSELF AND COMMITTEE MEMBER MR BURREELL WENT AROUND TO COLLECT STUFF FOR THE WARD INC A PORTABLE TV,TV/VIDEO COMBI,PLAYSTATION AND GAMES,TOYS,BOOKS.ALL THE STAFF ON "STARLIGHT WARD" PASS ON THERE THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO GAVE THE STUFF.IF YOU DO HAVE ANY PORTABLE TV'S OR TOYS ETC YOU WOULD LIKE TO DONATE PLEASE EMAIL ME simonanderson2@blueyonder.co.ukagain thank you so much to all those who gave us stuff alreadysimon andersonvice-chair off ivytag

Simon Anderson ● 7283d1 Comments ● 7282d

BRENTFORD WOMEN'S FORUM

The Mission Hall Community Centre - in Mission Hall, Mission Square -is the venue for this new venture. Are you interested?BRENTFORD WOMEN'S NETWORKMONDAYS 13:15 - 14:45 Mission Hall, Mission SquareTea, coffee, biscuits and chat.Do you want to find out more about these topics? We will have someone on hand to help on the following days.BASIC DIY - MONDAY 9th MAYGENERAL CHAT. MEET OTHERS. DISCUSS FUTURE - MONDAY 16th MAYFIND OUT ABOUT BENEFITS AND HOW TO HANDLE DEBT - MONDAY 23rd MAYNO SESSION IN HALF TERM - MONDAY 30th MAYPARENTING TEENAGERS - MONDAY 6th JUNEFurther session will continue to 27th June. How would you like to use these sessions? Come along and let us know.

Hilary Ellwood ● 7296d6 Comments ● 7282d

A Big "Thank You"

I would like to say a big “thank you” to those 1,118 souls who voted for myself and the Community Group in Brentford & Isleworth yesterday.If I am being honest I must say that I did expect a higher vote, however contesting the general election was very much an experiment and was always going to be a sideshow to what we do best – fighting and winning local elections.  This is why we deliberately made no predictions, and set no targets.When we announced our intervention I expressed the view that Ann Keen’s majority would be too much for either the Conservative or the Liberal Democrat to overcome.  Whilst it would seem I was correct in that view, it must be said that both candidates fought very polished and professional campaigns and did better than I had expected they would – considerably better in the case of Andrew Dakers, the Lib Dem.  As well as demonstrating great professionalism their campaigns were clean, and this is to their credit.  I enjoyed the exchanges which they, John Hunt (Green Party) and I had at the hustings meetings, and the smiles and handshakes which took place between us after the result had finally been announced was in stark contrast to the infantile behaviour of the little plastic gangsters who escorted The Presence into the count at 2.30am in an obviously choreographed demonstration of their innate greatness from which all that was missing was a fanfare of trumpets.  What pillocks they made themselves look, and what a shame the voters could not have been treated to a preview of this hilarious and ludicrous display before being asked to mark their ballot papers.  In retrospect I am glad that my vote did not make the difference between victory and defeat for either of the two main challengers.  The vote for the ICG taught us what many of us had suspected already, that there is a vast gulf between people’s priorities at local and national elections.  Our campaign attempted to bridge that gap, but clearly most voters had different priorities.  We have already accepted this.At the same time the goodwill shown towards us by so many of our “hometown” voters in Isleworth in particular, even those who admitted that they would not support us in a national election, made it clear to us that our support base is stronger than ever.  Other than for a chap who berated me on the eve of the poll for not having put a stop to night flights, we did not encounter one solitary constituent who had been disappointed by our performance as councillors.Also, it has become clear to us that the Royal Mail failed to distribute a significant quantity of our election communications as they are obliged to do and, whilst I doubt whether this had a major effect on our vote overall, we will obviously be taking this up with them.The lessons learned from the campaign will help to fine-tune an already quite awesome campaigning machine in good time for next year’s local elections.  I am looking forward to them already.Many thanks once again to those who supported us yesterday and placed their faith in us.  Now for the real battle…

Phil Andrews ● 7295d33 Comments ● 7283d

Poor Bees

I have to say I felt terribly sorry for the poor wet fans pouring out of Griffin Park last night. I went to the Fire Station with my flatmate and we sat there and watched the poor beggars trudge home in the drizzle.  Some came in, and I'm sure the barman purposely undercharged them which I thought was a nice consolation.On the other hand there was lots of Yorkshire accents completely lost as to how to get out of Brentford just as we were off to the pub, part of me wanted to give them the wrong directions. I resisted.  I imagine they felt the need to leave ASAP.Still I'm quite sure Brentford will make it up the ladder next year.

Conal Stewart ● 7284d0 Comments ● 7284d

NO MORE MARKET ?

  Has the Brentford Farmers Market finally finished ?

Mark Welland ● 7287d7 Comments ● 7284d

Gutted

Have just returned from Griffin Park where, despite an heroic performance, the Bees crashed out to Sheffield Wednesday in the semi-final of the promotion play-offs.Whilst their task was not made any easier by a one-eyed referee and a lineswoman who single-handedly set back the cause of female emancipation by half a century, the team could not in my view have had any complaints about the result.  Wednesday were a very good side who simply took their chances better than Brentford did.Nevertheless I think congratulations are in order to Martin Allen and the team who have exceeded all expectations by getting this far.  Here's hoping they can go one better next season.

Phil Andrews ● 7284d4 Comments ● 7284d

STUFF FOR SALE

9CTGOLD AQUAMARINE AND DIAMOND ENGAGEMENT RING SIZE J UNWANTED GIFT WAS £85 NEW AND NOT EVEN BEEN WORN WILL EXCEPT £50ALSOA BLUE ELECTRIC CHILDS SCOTTER SUITIBLE FOR 10YR UPWARDS I SUPPOSE ITS FOR ADULTS ASWELL AS IVE RODE IT.IT HAS BACK BRAKE LIGHT AND INDICATORS THAT FLASH AND BEEP AND A CAR HORN ALSO A FRONT LIGHT.COMES WITH CHARGER WHICH GOES IN TO ANY HOUSEHOLD SOCKET.ONLY 6MTHS OLD PAID £200 WILL TAKE £100CONTACT ME ON simonanderon2@blueyonder.co.uk

Simon Anderson ● 7285d0 Comments ● 7285d

TV'S WANTED FOR WEST MIDD HOSPITAL

I WONDER IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS OR KNOW OFF ANYBODY WHO HAS SPARE POTABLE TV'S THEY WOULD DONATE TO STARLIGHT CHILDREN'S WARD IN WEST MIDDLESEX HOSPITAL.MANY OFF THE ROOMS UP THERE HAVE NO TV'S AS THEY ONLY HAVE A COUPLE BETWEEN MANY ROOMS.IF YOU HAVE OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO DOESNT NEED OR USE THERE PORTABLE NO LONGER AND WOULD LIKE TO DONATE IT TO THEM PLEASE EMAIL ME AT simonanderson2@blueyonder.co.ukTHANKS 4 YOUR HELP

Simon Anderson ● 7293d7 Comments ● 7285d

Rectory Farm - between A4 & A312 (Parkway)

Does anyone out there know who owns/runs/manages this farm and what is grown/farmed there?I think with UK/EU grant funding CIP/LBH could build a huge polytunnel/greenhouse farm for growing all sorts of local produce year round like they do in Holland.Greenhouses could catch all rainwater runoff for irrigation and maybe some solar panels could be placed strategically in the structures. A couple of wind turbines could also be situated at the northern end of the farm to supply electric power and make it self-sustainable.With an uncertain energy future communities in the UK need to start working to become as self-sustainable as possible. This could be a start?

Paul Davis ● 7288d5 Comments ● 7286d

Anti-Social Behaviour - you think that you have problems!

Sarah (and to the other sufferers of inconsiderate neighbours) You may think that you have problems sitting out in your garden on a sunny Sunday afternoon when you are subjected to noise from weekend builders. Beat this then, if you can. Since Midnight on Friday 6th May 2005 until just before 2.00am on Saturday 7th May 2005, we have had what appears to be a stabbing incident at one address and an imbecile carrying out DIY at another address at Haweswater House, Summerwood Road – aka Ivybridge. Aside from the ear piercing screaming resulting from what appears to the effects of the stabbing incident and the congealed blood which is smeared inside the lift, on carpet tiles, walls and on the 5th floor, we have also had the delights of late night and early morning DIY noise. None of which are conducive to a good nights sleep or to good neighbourliness. I have reported the incidents to Hounslow Homes, Hounslow Council and a councillor so perhaps after several previous complaints relating to both addresses the London Borough of Hounslow and its ALMO organisation, Hounslow Homes, will take action. Here’s to a sincere hope that something will finally be done by the masters at the London Borough of Hounslow and Hounslow Homes to stop further incidents. Failing this, I shall have to call upon the assistance of our recently elected MP, Mrs Ann Keen to ask if the anti-social behaviour legislation introduced by her government can be used to protect those of us who do not run around stabbing each other and those of us who are not into midnight DIY. If I do have to involve Ann Keen it struck me that on past experiences that by the time that she responds, events might take a turn for the worse and instead of looking back at a series of stabbings, we could potentially be reading news of a murder.

Gareth Evans ● 7294d11 Comments ● 7286d

Wade

I love the little pieces of Wade china I trip across occasionally.  If I wanted to start collecting - where would be the best place to go?

Sarah Felstead ● 7288d5 Comments ● 7287d

Popular day nursery forced to relocate from Brentford

Ladybird Lane Day nursery has been operating from St. Faith's Hall in Brentford for 11 years. It is popular and has recently received an outstanding Ofsted report for the quality of care and learning it offers.  You may therefore be surprised to learn that it is being forced out of its premises by the church who have demanded a rent increase of over 100%.  Unsurprisingly, this would make the nursery uneconomically viable and it was faced with closure.  Hopes are high that new premises in Isleworth can be secured, but many parents will not be able commute their children that far and will be forced to find alternative childcare/nursery provision.  Along with the other parents, I am upset and angry that the church is putting possible financial gain above the interests of our local children.

Julia Blades ● 7316d10 Comments ● 7287d

Brentford FC  Re-Arranged Home Game

First the good news... my (our?) beloved Bees have made it through to the play off semi finals, the away leg of which is this Thursday vs Sheffield Wednesday.The less good news for local residents is that the home leg will take place next Monday (16th) at 7:45pm so parking around the ground's very likely to be a nightmare.Apologies in advance to the good people of TW8 for adding to the congestion next Monday, it's too important a game for me to miss I'm afraid.Regards to all...... Colin

Colin Halstead ● 7290d3 Comments ● 7287d

BRENTFORD WOMEN'S FORUM UPDATE

By popular request - five sessions on Basic DIY from 6th June to 4th July. Do you know how to turn off your water, gas and electricity? Can you change the washer on your tap when it is squirting you with water? No? Then you need our Basic DIY sessions here at the Mission Hall - Monday afternoons from 1.15 - 2.45. See you maybe?

Hilary Ellwood ● 7289d3 Comments ● 7288d

British Waterways and Freight

I'm an ex-employee of British Waterways and have a substantial interest in the canals of the south-east.  You might have read in the rags or watched news reports on recent days that British Waterways London has developed  A plan and targets to increase freight traffic on London's network have been established.  On balance this is a good thing, not least because it is the most sustainable option in transporting low-grade high-bulk items such as aggregate, contruction materials, and waste.  Brentford has a number of historic wharves which enjoy some protection although they remain largely underused.  I feel there are opportunities for Brentford to gain some employment out of the initiative.  Brentford has a unique position in London and the nation' canal network and there are several things that should be done to ensure that the stratgic position of Brentford can capitalise on this.Brentford need to me marketed as the gateway to the canal network not least by the Council.The Council needs to move fast to protect what remains of industrial land along the off-side embankment and provide flexibility for the land to be used as a transfer and distribution The old boathouses and wharves on the Thames must be reinstatef for a canal purposes only. The development of housing onthe canal has been good for Brentford but it has to be limited.  Brentford people need to have sufficient access to the canal.  I do not currently feel that there is enough access.

Conal Stewart ● 7289d3 Comments ● 7288d

Simple Question

This is where I sound like an idiot.  How do you check personal messages on the forum.  I can't seem to find it?

Conal Stewart ● 7289d1 Comments ● 7289d

We'll Meet Again

Gerry and Jim,You are probably both too young to have enjoyed this evening's BBC trip down Memory Lane, but I have been wallowing - demolished a bottle of white wine in the process -  so have a headache now along with the red eyes from shedding a few tears.....I hadn't quite realised that I am now part of a fast disappearing generation.Saddest of all, not one member of my family realised the importance to me of today.  

Ann S. Allridge ● 7292d7 Comments ● 7289d

Have a look at the "smiling" faces on the LBH website

http://www.hounslow.gov.uk/

Neil Chippendale ● 7292d3 Comments ● 7290d

Thank you

Wow!  What a result.  10,477 votes cast for the Liberal Democrats, 22.8% of the overall vote -- a 9.3% increase in Brentford & Isleworth Constituency since the 2001 General Election, which is well above regional trends.  Ann Keen lost 12% and with 18,329 votes has a significantly reduced majority. This makes it our best result since 1910!  I'm sorry it has taken me a while to post a message on BrentfordTW8, but I have had a lot of sleep and correspondence to catch up on.  Thank you to all of you that have supported the campaign in the past sixth months.  This is the result of hard work by a brilliant team and a great achievement.  We had the Labour party running very scared.  In the final 48 hours they were putting out spoof Liberal Democrat literature with Baroness Helena Kennedy QC endorsing Ann Keen and telling everyone to vote strategically for the Labour party so as not to let in the Tories.With the margins so much narrower, in the next election if you Vote Liberal Democrat you can be confident of getting a Liberal Democrat representative.  In Hounslow after 36+ years of Labour it is time for change.  Thank you to all of you that gave us your support this time.  In the coming years we will work hard to make the case for our fresh policy ideas and a fair approach for local and national government to many more people.  If you would like to help support our development and get active in the party please do not hesitate to contact me directly on 07788 116159 or by email.Best wishes,Andrew DakersLiberal Democrat Parliamentary Spokesperson for Brentford & Isleworth

Andrew Dakers ● 7290d0 Comments ● 7290d

Childrens Portrait Photography

I have recently set up a new business in the west London area offering a new approach to portraiture.  Unlike most professional photographers I provide customers with the copyright so that you can print and duplicate as much and as often as you like.  After all - they are images of you and your family.  In order to help establish by business and my reputation I am offering readers of this forum an attractive reduction on my standard fees.  For a full introduction to my service please vist my new website at www.tastephotography.com or email me at Steve@tastephotography.com.  Alternatively feel free to call me on 02087499029.There are examples of my work on my website.Kind RegardsSteve

Steve Harding ● 7290d0 Comments ● 7290d

Message in a bottle

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/services/health-social-care/older-people/message.shtmlThis was the best link I could find to explain this.We were given a 'message in a bottle' by the Help the aged in Mother-in-Laws area.  The bottle with contact and medical information is kept in the fridge and a sticker is placed inside the front door.  Yesterday we had to call an ambulance to her house.  The ambulance crew saw the sticker and went straight to the fridge.  Brilliant!... and the ambulance service was absolutely brilliant too!

Sarah Felstead ● 7292d2 Comments ● 7291d

Brentford Football Club Players..of yesteryear..

Here is a photo of Brentford's 1948 team...click around the site and the names of the players should be available.http://11v11.co.uk/page286-58

Jim Lawes ● 7302d2 Comments ● 7292d

Something silly..

The Eurovision Song Contest ... now come on, pick yourselves up from the floor.  Apparently the rest of Europe think that this is a serious contest!Come-on bee-have! From my first memories of the Contest, which we used to watch as a family, I can recall my Mums comments about the voting - x won't vote for y and y will give 12 points to Z.  Expanding the Countries taking part over the years, only appears to have drawn others into the fray.  When Terry Wogan started compering, we fell about laughing because he was saying, very dryly, what she had been saying.  It was then that we realised that everyone else was thinking the same thing – well, on this Island, anyway.There is an article in the Mail TV magazine where Terry Wogan is talking about the contest, and I spent a few minutes today reading it, lost in humorous memories, added to by some extra Wogan quotes.  ‘The Eurovision Song Contest is rubbish’.  ‘It is a piece of huge, grandiose, magnificent rubbish … and I love it’.For years we have tuned in – just for the results!

Sarah Felstead ● 7293d0 Comments ● 7293d

Healing in Chiswick

We are opening a healing centre in the London Buddhist Vihara, The Avenue, Chiswick, commencing this coming Monday, 9th May.  The centre will take place on the second Monday of each month from 11am to 1pm.  All the healers working at the centre are registered members of UK Healers.Anyone is welcome to come in for some healing.  You will not need to make an appointment and, although we will not be making a charge, a donation would be welcome to help with our expenses.Healing is given for any problem, either physical or mental, i.e. stress (and who doesn't have that!)  The healing session takes between 15-20 minutes and you will feel so good after the session.Do call in to see us on Monday.

Pat Smith ● 7295d2 Comments ● 7294d

Historical conservation within the Planning process.

Is there a section of the Council responsible for historical conservation within the planning process?Adini on the Great West Road at Gillette Corner is seeking to develop a part of its site - and the property is edged by a very old wall which would need preserving as a part of the development, so that large lorries do not undermine the foundations for example.  There appears to be no mention of the wall in the report advising the Councillors (bit like the description of the sports ground on Wood Lane where they omitted to tell Councillors it was a part of an old estate!).  Should we take it for granted that measures have been taken to instruct the developers to take great care?  Who is responsible maintenance of the wall?  Does it have a preservation order on it – should it have a preservation order on it?Part of it can be seen at the end of Northumberland Avenue, and it extends along the back of Warkworth gardens up to the Great West Road.  The area was owned by  The Duke of Northumberland and was a part of his estate, so is possibly very old.Should there be a 'historical' reference section at the end of the planning application along with an 'environmental impact' box, too?

Sarah Felstead ● 7302d13 Comments ● 7294d

Ann Keen

I've just got home and found yet another standard letter from Ann Keen addressed to me, obviously through a mail merge facility. I'm not at all keen on Ann Keen, to say the least, so I've responded by adding a comment to Mrs Keen's letter and sent it back to her. Lets hppe that I don't get another one because I don't recall ever asking to join any mailing list organised by Ann Keen or the Labour party.

Gareth Evans ● 7300d19 Comments ● 7295d

Excluded from Poll

Story now being run by the BBCArticle Here

Paul Allen ● 7295d1 Comments ● 7295d

FACTS ABOUT YOUR LABOUR MP

DEAR ALL,I WAS SENT THIS INTERSTING LEAFLET TODAY FROM THE PEOPLE OFF COVENT GARDEN WHIC READ AS THE FOLLOWING;ANN KEEN CLAIMS £18,000 A YEAR FROM TAXPAYERS TO LIVE IN A FLAT IN COVENT GARDEN WHEN BRENTFORD IS JUST 9MILES AWAY FROM WESTMINSTER.ANN KEEN SPOKE ONLY TWICE IN PARLIAMENT LAST YEAR (source; www.theyworkforyou.com)ANN KEEN BACKED TONY BLAIR ON ALL LABOUR UNPOPULAR POLICIES, INCLUDING;. THE WAR ON IRAQ.  STUDENT TUITION FEES.  FOUNDATION HOSPITALSANN KEEN WAS RANKED AS ONE OFF THE WORST PERFORMING MP'S IN LONDON BY THE EVENING STANDARD NEWSPAPERDO YOU REALLY WANT ANN KEEN FOR ANOTHER 5 YEARS?printed and promted by john davies on behalf of alexander northcote, 433 chiswick high rd w4 4au

Simon Anderson ● 7297d10 Comments ● 7295d

A response from Ann Keen about her expenses at last!!

I admit my e-mail to her may have been harsh but i have been waiting six months for a response.Dear Mrs Keen,Are you just plain scared to meet potential voters who may ask why they are subsidising your second home? I just cannot understand why you refuse to return my emails letters and faxes on this subject unless you feel ashamed in some way? Regards Paul FisherAnd her response as follows,Dear Mr Fisher Thank you for your inquiry. The issue of expenses remains is clear. It was aLabour government that called the new legislation which allows transparancy sovoters can see what MP's claim. I fully supported this legilsation and votedaccordingly. I have always operated within the rules of Parliament and will continue to doso. Yours sincerely ANN KEEN So i take it the Covent Garden pad is staying if she gets re-elected!

Paul Fisher ● 7298d5 Comments ● 7295d

FREE SATURDAY CRECHE

FREE SATURDAY CRECHE - FOR FAMILY ART AND CRAFT SESSIONS10:00 - 12:00 Mission Hall, Mission SquareART AND CRAFT SESSIONSBring the family. Come and smarten up and decorate your old (or new) gear. Got a child too young to join in? NO PROBLEM. Let them enjoy themselves in the creche while you work alongside your older ones. Sessions will continue until 2nd July.

Hilary Ellwood ● 7296d0 Comments ● 7296d

Pictures of Isleworth TW7

http://webexhibits.org/vangogh/data/images/Vincent/sketches/0/isleworth.jpgThis is apparently a picture bt Van Gogh of some houses in Isleworth..any ideas where?

Jim Lawes ● 7296d19 Comments ● 7296d

Guess who did not attend tonights Hustings Meeting?

Thats right,Ann Keen who had "prior engagements" and is also unable to attend Wednesdays Hustings at the St Pauls Centre!

Paul Fisher ● 7305d23 Comments ● 7296d

Oh to live in Isleworth ...Bank holiday rendition...

Sat outside enjoying the sun and sounds of the garden.  Builders banging and builders drilling and builders grinding.  We can hear at least three renovations going on as we live in this building site 'what is' Isleworth.

Sarah Felstead ● 7298d5 Comments ● 7296d

Old photos of Isleworth and Brentford....

http://www.photolondon.org.uk/assoc_pages/hounslow.htmThe Isleworth Fire Brigade on show.....a picture hidden away at the Library ..and in cyberspace.Any others?

Jim Lawes ● 7303d9 Comments ● 7296d

Pocahontas and Brentford

Hello, I seek the assistance of forum members regarding a subject I am researching, if you would be so kind.   I am looking for information on the short stay of the Powhatan Indian woman Pocahontas in Brentford in the years 1616-1617.  Specifically, I would very much like to know the particular residence in which she stayed, and the name of her host or landlord, as well as any details of her stay in Brentford shortly before her untimely death on the day she was to sail from London on her return to Virginia.  Attributal sources appreciated.I live in Texas and am unable to visit the local libraries in England.Thanks for your consideration.Tim Hashaw

Timothy W. Hashaw ● 7299d11 Comments ● 7296d

Part-time admin person

Local property company are looking for a part-time admin person to work 12 hours over 2 or 3 days a week to start with.Duties will include taking enquiries over the phone, filing and data entry.There may be the opportunity to get further involved with other aspects of our housing business.Please telephone Caroline or Chris on 020 8742 7858or email chris@argyle.co.uk Posted by Chris Lucy

Janet Lucy ● 7301d2 Comments ● 7297d

Brentford history

Having been born and bought up in Chiswick but lived in Brentford for a number of years I have seen the changes to both areas.  On the Chiswick forum there are lots of memories of past Chiswick but I cannot remember seeing ones from people in Brentford with similar memories.

Barbara Dudley ● 7299d1 Comments ● 7299d

Things for Sale

I've got numerous things for sale and i'm guessing more people look at this forum than would look in the window of my local shop. Here goes...Pentax ME Super Camera Body with Basic Lens, Fully Working, Bought second-hand from reputable camera shop in December, used once. Perfect for students doing GCSE/AS/A Level Photography! £70 (negotiatiable)Red Trampette, For Exercise. Good Condition. £10Blue mini punchbag on stand...Bought from Boots. £10Large Selection of VHS Movies. List Available (E-mail me). Prices vary...(50p-£2 - Dependant on how many bought) All secondhand. Large discount if you will take all of them off of my hands!Call me on 07887 994 024 or e-mail me at laurahitchy@hotmail.com. I live in Isleworth and would appreciate it if you were able to pick items up from my house or locally as i have no mode of transport... and carrying that trampette on public transport could be interesting! Thankyou!

Laura Hitchinson ● 7300d0 Comments ● 7300d

A 2004 Design Award was won by new Brentford Homes

http://www.homedesignawards.com/homebuilder/homebuilder_2004/Category_3/syon_2004.htmThe above http reveals that two of the new homes..recently built on the London Road, Brentford...and with views of Syon Park, Brentford..won prestigeous interior design awards last year.Quite a claim to fame for dear old Brentford ... did the news hit the local press?  Must check to see if the address/location is TW7 or TW8.

Jim Lawes ● 7300d0 Comments ● 7300d

The Lib Dem's plan for a local income tax.... :0(

Perhaps I should read the LibDem leaflet...but will their local Income tax plans mean that EVERYBODY living in the Borough of Hounslow would have to be listed...just like the old Poll Tax?That would be an interesting task for the Civic Centre..who alreadyhave a disagreement with the Government about Hounslow's population figures. (Remember, we received a reduced Government Grant for this year because Mr Raynsford disagreed with Hounslow Council on this matter)Or would the extra tax just be raised on the registered home owner...for Council Tax purposes. That could initiate some interesting avoidance schemes.

Jim Lawes ● 7300d0 Comments ● 7300d

London Broncos V Bradford Bulls  sunday 1st may

This sunday at Griffin Park sees the Broncos take on the Bulls. After early season promise the Broncos are in something of a slump and will be looking for something special against the powerful Bulls. Tickets start at £5 for kids,£12 for adults,info from www.londonbroncos.co.uk ,thanks!

Bill Drinkwater ● 7304d1 Comments ● 7301d

Is Gareth around today?

I have a problem with my home PC again mate which i was hoping you could possibly help me with?I cannot log on at all without getting a message telling me something like BAD PBRNO BOOT DEVICE AVAILABLEuh and i`m afraid thats as far as i can go with it.Please can somebody help???

Paul Fisher ● 7327d16 Comments ● 7302d

Parking near Brentford football ground

The number of matches played at Brentford football ground has increased. Parking for residents is a major problem which the football club and council need to make more provison for. Does anyone else agree?

Helen Rosser ● 7311d17 Comments ● 7302d

Craft & Antique Fairs Locally  ?????

Hi,Are there any Craft/Antiques Fairs locally?I would like to set up a pitch selling old door knobs and window fittings.Thanks,Ian.

Ian Silver ● 7302d0 Comments ● 7302d

List of items for sale

Hi againStill got a few things to sell and a couple more besides.The list follows. If anyone wants pix or just to see stuff drop us an email or give us a call on 02087580722Sony Video recorder/player with remote control. Hardly used.£40.00Dining table and 6 chairs. Beech effect with frosted glass centre panel. Chairs with light cream patterned cushions. Only 5months old. Cost New £1000 £200.00Bookcase from Leksvik range at Ikea. W93cm D32 cm H198cm. Solid wood in antique stain. In excellent condition.£20.005-tier stainless steel steamer. Used once.£5.00Morphy Richards toast and grill with easy clean removable non-stick plates. Used once or twice.£8.00Sony Hi-Fi LBT-A295. Black with 5 Disc and turntable. 2 speakers. Missing play button on Tape Deck B. In excellent condition otherwise.£15.00Platina computer AMD Athlon 2GHz nVidia Geforce2 MMX 64MB Graphics, firewire, 4x USB, TV In/Out with flatscreen monitor and metal desk.£150.00Black ladies briefcase in soft leather with several compartments, With shoulder strap and carry handle.£5.00Full size Stainless Steel Bladed Authentic Replica 'Excalibur' Sword. Hand crafted in Scotland. Only for sale to Over 16s due to legal restrictions.£60.00Encore Electric Guitar (Black), Leather shoulder strap & 34 Watt practice amp with built in Distortion£75.00JMB Foot Spa, boxed, only used once or twice. In excellent condition.£5.00Reebok Gym Ball. Hardly used, in excellent condition. Fully inflated with instructions on different exercises. Does not come with pump.£3.00 Also various DVD's and books for sale. All very cheap....:-)

Jamie Yardley ● 7308d3 Comments ● 7302d

Who the hell cares?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4425075.stmIMO....Euthanasia seems to be the better option under Nu Lab. It only remains for some Labour think tank to come up with the idea of issuing a lethal pill along with a pension book.Still it has to be better than reaching 70 or 80 years of age before getting mugged by the local yobs on going to or coming from the P.O. for your weekly pittance. Or a burglar entering your home and beating you to death for a few shillings.

George Burrell ● 7321d4 Comments ● 7302d

Hotel in Syon Park?

Have the plans for the hotel changed? As I understood the butterfly house is going to move to Gunnersbury Park as a result of the Hotel development. However last Saturday I took the kids to the Aquatic centre where signs are being displayed saying that contrary to recent reports they're not going anywhere. Surely they can's be staying if the hotel is to be built.

Simon Foster ● 7303d0 Comments ● 7303d

The amount of paper which comes out of my printer!

I am constantly horrified by the amount of paper which spews out of the printer when I print something. Today I printed off the information re the Comedy Club and got five pages (3 with a minimal and totally useless and unrequested amount of print on them) where two would have done. Even the comedy page, with some cutting down, could have fitted on one page.To ensure this wasn't a blip - even though it happens all the time in a work situation - I printed off a copy re the City Learning Centre. That story takes half a page. The second page which printed off had only the words Brentford Story Page 2 out of 2 at the top and the website address and the date at the bottom - in other words two lines of print.This is a very good site but isn't there anything that can be done to stop the above? Apart from never printing anything off, can anybody tell me whether this is unavoidable? Thank you.

Anne England ● 7304d1 Comments ● 7304d

Car boot sales soon?

Does anybody know of any car boot sales in the Brentford/Ealing/Chiswick/Hounslow areas on this weekend or soon after?Thank you.

Sarah Davies ● 7304d1 Comments ● 7304d

new hotel in brentford..anyone know where?

InterContinental Hotels Group (IHG), today announces the launch of theStaybridge Suites brand in the UK with the signing of two management and franchise agreements with Stay Investments Ltd and The Splendid Hotel Group. The new build 124 bedroom Staybridge Suites, Brentford, London will open in late 2006 and marks the introduction to the UK market of the first major hotel brand focused on extended stay guests - those who stay for more than five nights. Staybridge Suites will offer one bedroom and studio suites, fully equipped forthe extended stay business traveller, with rooms including a flat screen TV, DVD player and fully equipped kitchen including cooker, fridge/freezer, dishwasher and microwave. Free laundry and a grocery shopping services are also available.

John Davitte ● 7305d3 Comments ● 7304d

Computers for schools

I have a stack of Tesco's computers for schools vouchers. Not having any contact with children in the area, can anyone recommend to me a local (Isleworth/Brentford) school who might be able to make good use of these?

Caroline Riddell ● 7312d9 Comments ● 7305d

Next Thames Clean up, -  ideas wanted!

Please read message below, and email me with any advice and/or ideas you may have, as to what you’d like to do/see done!NigelApologies for my late reply. I'm glad everyone is still keen. Timberland have definitely confirmed their participation in an Earthday event on April 22nd.  They have around 260 staff who will be volunteering on the day and we are planning to use either the whole of or a large portion of this workforce to carry out a river clean up behind Brentford Ait.  As part of this event we are also hoping to offer some additional activities.  The low tide on the 22nd is around 10am so it may not be convenient for all the Timberland employees to get to the site in time.  The options we are currently exploring are graffiti cleaning, habitat raft building and Lucy Griffith at Hounslow Council is looking into various other activities locally. Now, as for a pre-April clean up by the locals, we were thinking of letting Timberland have a good crack at the site and with luck they will break the back of the litter collection.  Then the locals can carry out smaller targeted clean ups to really bring the area up to scratch.  Perhaps some of the locals might want to join in with the event on April 22nd.  Although I recognise that it may not be possible for some people to join in on a Friday. Alternatively, we can have a look at the site together again and identify a bit of the site that especially bothers the locals and tackle that specific spot.  Obviously the last thing I want is for the locals to feel that they are being excluded from involvement by us because we're buddying up to a big corporate group.  Any advice gratefully accepted. Many thanks Chris

Nigel Moore ● 7402d29 Comments ● 7306d

So: which buildings flew the flag of St George today?

As Vanessa reported, Whitton High Street was well flagged out as usualand the market stalls along the pavements were many. St George's Day is certainly celebrated in that very English area...and the residents of Whitton should be well pleased.The most memorable sight for me was the flag flying high above the tower at Heston Church. It looked really splendid.Goddards Superstore in Brentford High Street..on the corner with Boston Manor Road...flew the flag proudly...and several pubs along the High Street had flags at their windows..including the Northumberland Arms..but not the Magpie.In Chiswick, I only saw an antique looking Union Jack flying proudly in front of the Town Hall.And finally..at the almighty fortress of the Borough's Civic Centre, in Lampton Road, Hounslow..the flag could not be seen from the road. Indeed driving into the Car Park area at the front of the buildings one couldn't see the flag at first.  But then..there it was...behind the Car Park Building...on a large grassy mound...a flagpole...and the flag hanging down...almost hidden...no wind to spread the flag of St George pattern. It was a lonesome sight...out of general view.Did I feel any Civic or national pride there? No.But at Heston Church ..yes. And at Chiswick Town Hall ..yes.Any other reports?

Jim Lawes ● 7307d2 Comments ● 7306d

Open Public Election Hustings

Brentford and Isleworth Contituency 27th April 2005 at 7pmSt Pauls Centre,St Pauls Rd,BrentfordInvitations have been issued by the Brentford Chamber of Commerce toPhil Andrews - CommunityAndrew Dakers - Liberal DemocratJohn Hunt - Green PartyAnn Keen - LabourAlexander Northcote - ConservativeAs far as i am aware,all candidates have responded so far with the exception of Ann Keen.The information lists the contact number od the Brentford Chamber of Commerce as 0208 568 8925 and St Pauls Centre as 0208 568 7442.Light refreshments will be made available.

Paul Fisher ● 7307d3 Comments ● 7306d

Hustings meeting Monday 25/04/05

There is a Hustings planned at the Brentford Free Church on Boston Manor Rd on Monday 25/04/05 starting at 7.30pm.All the candidates have been invited so why not ask each of them what is on your mind?

Paul Fisher ● 7306d0 Comments ● 7306d

Confirmed list of nominations for Brentford & Isleworth constituency

Nominations closed today and the confirmed list of candidates for the general election is as follows (in alphabetical order):ANDREWS, Phil (Community)DAKERS, Andrew (Liberal Democrat)HUNT, John (Green)KEEN, Ann (New Labour)NORTHCOTE, Alexander (Conservative)STONEMAN, Michael (National Front)For anybody interested in Feltham & Heston, the candidates there are:ANSTIS, Elizabeth (Green)BOWEN, Mark (Conservative)KEEN, Alan (Labour)KEMP, Graham (National Front)KHALSA, Satnam Kaur (Liberal Democrat)MULLETT, Leon (UKIP)PRACHAR, Warwick (Independent)

Phil Andrews ● 7311d14 Comments ● 7307d

Prospective candidates for election

Why is it that a good percentage of prospective candidates from any party seem to do very little work in the community before being selected to run for office? Then if they loose, just disappear into the woodwork never to be herd of again.Surly its better to pick some one who’s worked in local government or is a serving councillor so they are familiar with the local problems and inner workings of their constituency? 

Paul Allen ● 7310d6 Comments ● 7307d

Official Poll Cards

Well the postman came this morning leaving the gate swinging on its hinges as usual and in the middle of the bills and junk mail were our polling cards for the election.He must have been in a very generous mood today because he gave us three spare ones as well which belong to a family in a neighbouring street.I will of course deliver them to the correct address myself but i wonder how many go astray like this and end up being binned?I hope my experience is a one off but it does make you wonder how this could possibly happen?

Paul Fisher ● 7310d20 Comments ● 7307d

Pinched this from ealingtoday.co.uk

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/newsbeat/election/newsbeatgame/a_election_game.shtmlWhat we really need is some clever clogs to add the photograph of one strange Councillor to the faces!  What fun!

Sarah Felstead ● 7308d1 Comments ● 7307d

Open Public Election Hustings

Brentford and Isleworth Contituency 27th April 2005 at 7pmSt Pauls Centre,St Pauls Rd,BrentfordInvitations have been issued by the Brentford Chamber of Commerce toPhil Andrews - CommunityAndrew Dakers - Liberal DemocratJohn Hunt - Green PartyAnn Keen - LabourAlexander Northcote - ConservativeAs far as i am aware,all candidates have responded so far with the exception of Ann Keen.The information lists the contact number od the Brentford Chamber of Commerce as 0208 568 8925 and St Pauls Centre as 0208 568 7442.Light refreshments will be made available.

Paul Fisher ● 7307d0 Comments ● 7307d

Is there any parties for St Georges Day in Brentford?

Is anyone doing a party or celebrating St Georges Day????? Does anyone know if any of the pubs are definatly doing anything please let me knowCheers hope there will be lots of flag flyingDebbie

Debbie Dewar ● 7312d2 Comments ● 7308d

Ed....Is  there a problem?

Dear Ed, it may be my cranky old pc, but I  think some of the postings are not getting logged properly.....

Keith Iddon ● 7309d4 Comments ● 7308d

The pope is dead; long live the pope

Now we know the result, Cardinal Ratzinger is the new Pope.No changes then:  no women priests, no contraception,  no acceptance of the gay community, etc., etc.Cardinal Ratzinger was the foregone conclusion IMHO - chosen more by the Curia than by the other cardinals.(Back to my dugout!)

Ann S. Allridge ● 7311d11 Comments ● 7309d

England for St. George

St. Georges' Day parade in Whitton High St. Saturday 23 April, also a European Market is being held there. Did anyone see the bit in HM magazine about flying the St. George's cross? Ellar prattling on about the flag as if they Council hadn't had to be dragged kicking and screaming into flying it! Well, it made me laugh anyway.

Vanessa Smith ● 7316d6 Comments ● 7309d

Expandable wedding ring

Mother-in-law has had to have her wedding ring cut off.Because of swelling on her knuckle, a replacement ring which would go over the knuckle will be far too loose on her finger.  There must be lots of people with finger-joint swelling who experience the same.  I remember playing with expandable rings when a child - so where can I buy an adult equivalent?  Any suggestions?

Sarah Felstead ● 7314d7 Comments ● 7310d

Up the Bees : Great news about Griffin Park!

Let's hope that when all the improvements are in place, the supporters will not be priced out of the stadium.

Ann S. Allridge ● 7311d1 Comments ● 7311d

Ladies Powerwalking Group

Hi Ladies,  If you or anyone is interested in Powerwalking, a group of Ladies will be pounding the parks, canals and streets of Hanwell. It was very successful last year with over 80 ladies walking on a regular basis.  By the way it's free......It is starting back on Monday 25 April 2005 7.30pm at Elthorne Park, Boston Manor.For more info please visit the website. http://www.communigate.co.uk/london/ladiespowerwalking/or email: powerwalk@fastermail.comor telephone 07837 544 339 If you can't come why not tell a friend.Happy Walking

Esther Ratchford ● 7311d0 Comments ● 7311d

News item:Cannabis plants found  growing  on Worton Estate?

When I visited a house in Morris Road, on the Worton Road estate, on Monday afternoon, I was told by a friend that the Fire Brigade had been called to a house in the street as smoke was seen coming from it.The Fire Brigade found heaters (galore?) used in Cannabis plant growing and the Police were called....and they have been there for several days..investigating.This drugs business is serious! Any comment? Never tried the stuff myself. Too frightened I'd hallucinate and never be able to escape from the mental state!

Jim Lawes ● 7318d16 Comments ● 7311d

Various pieces of furniture and household goods

I have a load of furniture and household goods for sale as me and the wife will shortly be looking to move further into Brentford into a furnished place. Items include a 2 seater chocolate brown leather sofa, 28" widescreen, flatscreen silver TV, dining table and 6 chairs, wardrobe with matching drawers, coffee table, bookcase, microwave, 5 tier stainless steel steamer, selection of books and DVDs and loads more. For a full list and prices please e-mail jamieyardley@hotmail.com or phone 07865 275777. Am open to offers. Buyer will have to collect as we don't have any transport and I don't think they would let us on the E8 with a sofa!!

Jamie Yardley ● 7317d5 Comments ● 7312d

Who should I vote for?

As a registered overseas voter I dont get all the election communications so here is the chance for the Labour, Tories, Lib-Dems, Greens and Independent parties to post the reasons why I should vote for them.

Neil Chippendale ● 7321d26 Comments ● 7312d

Farmers Market Organisers need an urgent meeting: HELP

In the recent issues of the Hounslow Council HM Magazine, (which is suppose to be distributed to some 80,000 households in the Borough)the Farmers Markets of Chiswick (Dukes Meadows), Fulham Town Hall (!)and Hammersmith Town Hall(!!) are listed in the Whats On Diary section of the magazine.Any mention of the Brentford Market? No!Stallholders made many comments to me today..saying that they were considering whether to turn up again...as attendence was poor today and last time too.  Lack of advertising, no posters on railings in Boston Manor Road...or elsewhere in Brentford in recent weeks could  possibly result in this Community Project stalling. And that would be a great pity.Several stallholders were missing this time..and the remaining ones were despondent. I tried to cheer them up...I did...but some asked me for HELP!! Can I speak to the Organisers.The Farmers Market is a project that needs promotion and support..to help stirr the stagnent porridge of Brentford into a more lively Community activity. Its a joy to meet locals in such a way..and its so easy to make conversation with people you have never met before.When I finished up with a £40 parking ticket on one occasion...I justpaid up..thinking that I had been doing something to help the civic endeavours.Several stallholders mentioned that they liked the NHS Car Park site for the Market. It was spacious. One chap suggested that all the stalls could perhaps be positioned at the back of the Car Park...and allow visitors to bring their cars into the front part of the area.None may stay more than 30 minutes..and it might help trade.Perhaps the £20 fee for having the stall should be waved for the time being. £20 may not sound much...by traders may have to do £75 of business to achieve that sum.Another stallholder thought that a weekly Market would be better...to enable a more regular shopping cycle to be established.Over to the experts...and for others to comment.  Is it the time for crafts to be introduced? Are there regulations stopping local residents having a stall to sell their home made cakes...and cheese straws etc etc. Insurance etc?

Jim Lawes ● 7328d14 Comments ● 7313d

Technical Tip:  Speed up browsing with "Mozilla Firefox" ?

My computer supplier (a local computer internet shop) has updated one or two things on my Computer..but in particular he has installed MOZILLA FIREFOX. I'm new to computers..so I don't know how to describe Mozilla Firefox..but it has certainly speeded up moving from thread to thread on these Forums.  And thats a great bonus.So, its recommended and was downloaded free of charges. Some of you may  have  observations about this piece of software.

Jim Lawes ● 7315d14 Comments ● 7314d

73 year old woman attacked  by Brentford Dock

The story of this poor woman is on the home page but there is no description of her cowardly scumbag assailants.I wonder if it was the same bastards who stabbed that chap on the A4 at Osterley or the gang that attacked that schoolkid at Busch corner?Seems to be a lot of it about lately....

Keith Iddon ● 7328d11 Comments ● 7315d

London Broncos V St Helens sat 16th april

After a slightly disappointing easter period the Broncos will be looking to consolidate their position in the top 6 and confirm their growing reputation as one of the most entertaining sides in Super League against one of the biggest names in the game St Helens. The Saints are packed full of internationals and will be a huge test of London Broncos capabilities. Any info on tickets etc can be found at the official Broncos website www.londonbroncos.co.uk ,p.s.,the game will be shown live on sky sports at 6 oclock,thanks for reading this,Bill.

Bill Drinkwater ● 7324d8 Comments ● 7316d

BRONCOS MATCH REPORT

Leeds 64 London Broncos 6 Flying winger Marcus Bai scorched in for a hat-trick of tries in the final 17 minutes as Super League leaders Leeds roared back to form by routing London.Ryan Bailey and lively half-back Danny McGuire inspired the run-away victory which took the Rhinos two points clear of St Helens at the top.London had little answer to Leeds' slick handling as Tony Smith's men cut loose in what proved to be a one-sided second half.Suspicions that the Rhinos were going through a slump, after a home league defeat against Wakefield and their struggle to knock Warrington out of the Powergen Challenge Cup, were comprehensively answered as they overcame London's challenge.After rattling up 70 points against Hunslet in the Cup, the Broncos were outclassed by the Super League and world club champions.Leeds took just five minutes to open the scoring, the strength of Kiwi Test second row Ali Lauitiiti enabling him to barge over the line with four London players hanging on. Kevin Sinfield's kick from wide out hit the near upright and stayed out.The hosts had some strong tackling to do, with London throwing the ball about with enterprise but try scorer Lauitiiti showed he was just as formidable on the defensive.Leeds survived the pressure and showed their class with slick handling by Richard Mathers and Lauitiiti enabling centre Keith Senior to cross for the Rhinos' third try.Thomas Leuluai was at the hub of London's best moves and the scrum-half wriggled his way over for his side's only try of the first half on the half hour, Paul Sykes adding the goal.But Leeds had the edge in attacking ideas and McGuire's long pass saw Lauitiiti offload the ball intelligently and McGuire was up in support to score.McGuire was the architect for Leeds' fifth try, kicking to the corner where Chev Walker outjumped London winger Jon Wells to gather and touch down in the corner. Sinfield's successful kick took the Leeds captain's career total to 1,000 points as the Rhinos led 26-6 at the break.Then, five minutes into the second half, McGuire went between the posts for his second try after a storming break by Bailey. Sinfield was again successful with the conversion.Scrum-half Rob Burrow left London with no hope of launching a recovery when he darted 20 metres on a solo run for the Rhinos' seventh try. Sinfield added the goal but was off the field when Leeds hit the Broncos with three touchdowns in eight minutes - Mathers (twice), Bai and Keith Senior scoring at will.Liam Botham and Burrow failed with conversion attempts but when Sinfield returned he improved Bai's second try with 10 minutes left to bring up the 60 points for the rampant Rhinos.Winger Bai completed his hat-trick of tries in injury-time with the Broncos a demoralised outfit, and although Sinfield missed the kick there were no complaints.London have some work to do ahead of Saturday's clash with second placed St Helens.

Sally Henfield ● 7320d3 Comments ● 7317d

Prince Charles and Camilla

Both looked very happy, and her outfit was lovely.I hope they have many years of contentment ahead of them; and that the nastiness and cruel comments about Camilla will soon cease.The messages on the gates of Kensington Palace were tasteless in the extreme.

Ann S. Allridge ● 7321d13 Comments ● 7317d

blues pianist needed

urgently needed for one gig but with a welcome future with the band.USD, a teenage threesome (aged 16/17), are looking for a blues pianist to play live and in the studio. We are a serious band who are heading into the studio soon to record our first album. Our influences are wide and varied, but mainly classic rock, blues and funk. We have all our own equipment in terms of P.A., instruments (including a keyboard), lighting etc. and practice weekly.We have a website, www.usdband.com which is still under construction, but should be up to scratch very soon.please contact me via email: sevenseasofrhye37843@hotmail.com if interested. dont be shy! thank you Adam Nako

Adam Nako ● 7320d0 Comments ● 7320d

Computer needs a new home

Well looked after desktop computer, stable, still running Windows 95 small 6.2gb hard drive, 15-inch monitor, keyboard and mouse.Would still be fine for a child at school to run their Sats Software and use as a word processor and to save the family PC. Or maybe a second PC for a community group for newsletters ect as it has a freeware downloaded version of word already loaded.Free to anyone who would like to pick it up from myself, just email me through the forum and I will get back to you as soon as I can, Thanks.

Paul Allen ● 7325d7 Comments ● 7320d

Hounslow Heritage - history talks and coach tours

Knowing Jim's love for local history I thought I'd post this info from Hounslow Heritage...A TASTE OF HISTORY- ILLUSTRATED TALKSThe place Isleworth Public Hall, South Street, IsleworthThe time Doors open 10.30 for 10.45 start – 12.30 p.m. allowing time for a refreshment break and to chatIllustrated Talk Dates:-Friday 6th May 2005 given by Andrea CameronHitler and Us:   A reflective look at the war years in the Borough, from Chamberlain’s return to Heston Airport claiming to have achieved ‘Peace in our Time’, to the first V2 rocket which devastated houses in Chiswick.Friday 20th May 2005 given by Christine DiwellGlimpses of Brentford Chiswick and Isleworth:Highlights of three riverside settlements.   From an Elizabethan timber framed house, to homes forthe poor built in Charles II’s reign, a modern hospital, a ghost or two and homes of painters such as Turner, Hogarth and Van Gogh.There’s a charge of £3 for each talk including refreshments?No need to book simply turn up on the day or days of your choiceArranged by the Hounslow Heritage Guides Associationfor further information call Janet : 020 8560 3718MAGICAL HISTORY TOURSIt is essential to book a seat on the coach in advance  - please use form overleafSee the best of the Borough from the comfort of a coach with knowledgeable heritage guides at your service all the way!Time: 10.15 a.m. for 10.30 prompt departureFrom: Outside Isleworth Public Hall, South Street (estimated return time 1 p.m. approximately)Cost: £6 including refreshmentsoOoCoach Tour l: Friday 13th May 2005Taking in some highlights of Isleworth, Heston, Cranford which, along with other hamlets, formed the Borough of Heston and Isleworth up to 1965.  Refreshments at            Cranford. oOoCoach Tour 2: Friday 27th May 2005A look at Brentford and Chiswick two influential areas which in 1927 combined to form an Urban District Council and are now part of the Borough of Hounslow.Refreshments at Gunnersbury Park.If after booking you are unable to come please adviseJanet McNamara on 020 8560 3718by the Wednesday a.m. prior to the tour at latest.   In this event, while we will make every endeavour to return the payment we will be obliged to retain  £2 to cover administrationProgramme may be subject to variations

Sally Henfield ● 7322d3 Comments ● 7322d

The ICG's general election campaign

For the benefit (?) of those who do not already know me, I will be contesting the forthcoming general election as an independent community candidate in the constituency of Brentford & Isleworth.The Independent Community Group (ICG) website can be viewed at www.communitygroup.org.uk and we have set up a dedicated campaign site at www.voteforphilandrews.org.uk, which is due to be expanded shortly.Out of respect for the not-politicals I do not intend to bombard this forum with policy postings during the next four-and-a-half weeks, however I would be happy to answer any questions about either myself or my campaign from residents in the constituency, either publicly through this forum or privately by e-mail at phil@communitygroup.org.uk.Thank you.

Phil Andrews ● 7326d6 Comments ● 7323d

This may put the wind up Mr.Blair

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/4aea637e-a536-11d9-8616-00000e2511c8.htmlSpain may have started the falling domino game?

Charles Guest ● 7324d5 Comments ● 7324d

"Let me know what you're thinking.." Mrs Keen's Newsletter has arrived...!

After all the flak that Mrs Keen MP, Cllrs Hughes and Alan Sherrins have received on these Forums..and after what has been written about them and the Labour Party in the Local Press, it was with eager anticipation that I picked up the Labour Party leaflet from my doormat yesterday.Wow..its not from the Labour Party..its from Mrs Keen MP herself!"A REPORT TO MY CONSTITUENTS,FEBRUARY 2005"  (and about time too!)Looking through the well designed four page coloured leaflet..with five photos of Mrs Keen and many eye catching headings I thought that it looked impressionable..and would go a long way to keep the largely uninformed,unknowledgable,indifferent electorate happy.* A four page A4 coloured leaflet?  Gosh!    * A GREEN banner..proclaiming "A Report to my Constituents,   Feb 2005 (GREEN? isn't that other peoples' colours?)  (Golly it didn't arrived till April..those wretched distributors?)* A picture of Big Ben!* Mrs Keen with Gordon Brown. (Rude man? Isn't he the miserable MP who never  even said good morning to his chauffeur of over ten years?) * " Investing in our Children"   lots of printed TICKS to convey the positive.* " Make Poverty History" (important overseas matters)* " A new West Middx Hospital campaigned for" (Well if Ealing had a brand new Hospital, and Kingston and Ashford and Chertsey and Charing Cross ...perhaps we got ours late and had to wait!!)* " Extra investment in Education" (always sounds good)* " Tackling Crime etc" (is the lady taking credit for that?)* " The Mogden Sewage Court Case..and Westminster action.Many people in the constituency haven't the faintest idea what has been going on...and are not best placed to either know of underlying happenings..or have any knowledge about what's best for the constituency's future.  Alan Sherring may get a pat on the back for the publication..but those with just a little knowledge of these matters will not be amused. "How does one respond to the contents of that leaflet" you'll be saying. Its trickery. He and his editorial team have written something convincing whether they really believe it or not...or whether its fair reporting or not.The wave of discontent about Mrs Keen's communications with her constituents...her website...her non appearance at debate meetings...her so called surgeries...is alarming ...and it has not been inflamed by me! When I see critical postings by Neil at Brentford, Richard and Lois in Chiswick ..one realises the dissatisfaction is genuinely felt by real people.The back page of the leaflet will raise a smile: "LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING...Your opinions are important to me, if I am to represent you to the best of my ability. Please take a minute to keep me informed"   Isn't that what SHE should have been doing during the past many years TO US?...replying to CORRESPONDENCE and keeping an up to date and non-flowery WEBSITE, attending Community Police Meetings during the boys on bikes issues, and turning up at local Chamber of Commerce debates? Mr Gordon Brown may well be pleased with her services...but there is something that is not quite right. What do you think?The Hounslow Council elections next year will be even more engaging!

Jim Lawes ● 7326d5 Comments ● 7324d

Piano Recital: next Thursday: old Isleworth Church

Pinned to a notice board at Brentford Library on Saturday,an A4 advertisement announced  that a piano recital...with music by Bach, Chopin and Liszt...would be taking place at the old Isleworth Church (All Saints??) near the London Apprentice...next Thursday at 8pm."Wine and a collection box"Then on Monday, at the Griffin Park Jazz Club...an evening of Vintage and Orleans Jazz is on the menu. Leave your knitting at home..and get those feet tapping!Wouldn't it be good to have a comprehensive calendar on this website. Monday to Fridays 11am-2pm home cooked lunches, snacks and drinks, at St Paul's Church, St Paul's Road.!!Oh the joys of Brentford and Isleworth.

Jim Lawes ● 7328d10 Comments ● 7325d

Election Date announced 1st on TW8 .com

Well not really - but in true democratic style on the basis of 1 vote, 1 board member, 1 date what do you think the date of the general election will be ? I go for:June 2nd

John Wood ● 7375d18 Comments ● 7325d

SAFE Project

If there are any teenagers on this forum please check out www.sosafe.org.uk for advice on all health information.

Guy Smith ● 7325d0 Comments ● 7325d

Computer tax set to replace TV licence fee

Check out article HERE

Paul Allen ● 7329d4 Comments ● 7326d

Farmers Market !!  Scotch Eggs sold out..before I arrived!

What a delightful sunny day for the Market..but sadly, the number of Brentford customers were down again...little advertising was apparent, and many STALLHOLDERS wondering if they will come again.Some stallholders were missing today...that Fillet Steak stall for starters. And the future of the Market was the main topic of conversation when I toured around. Suggestions to follow!Nontheless, todays Market was certainly worth the visit.At the entrance, a kindly person offered me a free Cadbury's Chocolate Egg..together with a leaflet about the activities of local Churches in helping the local Community.Then something new..a stall selling hot Austrian sausages! There were three types of these German type furters..with a baguette... Paprika, Smoked, or Cheese.  This stall was run by a firm called "A Taste of Vienna" from Ickenham (07778 393 306) and they just about sold every sausage with any trouble. So, everyone was well fed today!There were some 12 other stalls. Down the left side was the garden veg stall (leeks and all that) ..then the Olives Stall...then a Cheddar Cheese stall from Somerset who had many plates of cubes to sample, and then Hicks the big meat stall. All his stock of 48 scotch eggs had been sold by the time I arrived at 12.15pm..and the boss was amused at all the conversations he'd had with Forum watchers about this famed product.I had to make do with some Pork Pies. I've just one with HP sauce...and the HP sauce was the winner!..the pastry wasn't as pleasant as last time.On the right hand side, a stall selling unusual types of potatoe was trading. He sold me eggs too.No fish stall this time?  A dissapointed regular trader was selling cheeses and Buffalo meat ..(sausages and steaks)...I bought some out of pity for him!!There was an apple juice and cider stall...with sample swigs. Yes please I'll have the presentation pack (I'll give to someone!)Many traders also have stalls at the Chiswick (Dukes Meadows) Market held on Sunday...and apparently there is even a better( busier) market at Barnes.The Ealing Market is held in Leeland Road every week and that was mentioned too.

Jim Lawes ● 7328d3 Comments ● 7326d

The whys and wherefores

http://www.eurolegal.org/index.shtmlWhen you choose an item don't forget to scroll down as some times it's not to obvious, the search engine is very, very, fast.This is a great site check it out.

George Burrell ● 7326d0 Comments ● 7326d

Hughes free area

Phew! Just popped over from W4 to see what was going on and found out - thankfully, that this IS a David Hughes free zone - thank heavens. Still at least the various threads are providing entertainment for quite a few people.

Vanessa Smith ● 7342d34 Comments ● 7327d

Election leaflets

I have just checked through a weeks snail mail and in amongst the pizza and curry house menus, there was our first election leaflet.  I think it is designed to tell me about an Alexander Northcote who is a conservative political person?It tells me that Alexander is a local man, who grew up in Brentford, and went to college on what is now the site of Brunel University.He is married with three children and works in communications.  He advises many top companies, including local employer GlaxoSmthKline.  It then invites me to e-mail the chap NOW.As a 'communication' on behalf of a 'communications advisor' wanting to inspire me to place my valuable cross against his name, it is probably best summed up in that good plain English term of, codswallop.Has anyone else been enthused by this flyer?

Sarah Felstead ● 7332d25 Comments ● 7327d

Syon Estate

Does anyone know when this estate was built. There are still gas pipes for lighting in my house,so I would guess pre-war,but I may well be wrong.Any ideas?

Keith Iddon ● 7328d5 Comments ● 7327d

Wow!!  Ealing Council's "Whats On" webpages.have a look

http://www.ealing.gov.uk/services/communityinformation/clubs+and+societies/music+groups.aspI'm looking for information about the Electonic Organ and Keyboard concerts held regularly at the Eversheds Sports Club ..just up the Hanwell Road from Brentford....and in the course of doing so ..strumbled across the above this Ealing Council website page.What a gem?http://www.ealing.gov.uk/services/communityinformation/clubs+and+societies/music+groups.aspHounslow? Brentford?   So much more could be done on OUR local website. Agreed the local Newspapers have long lists of events..but increasingly website are the sourse of information for many of us.

Jim Lawes ● 7327d1 Comments ● 7327d

The pope has died

One less cleric to poke his nose into politics ....eh Vanessa?

Charles Guest ● 7328d8 Comments ● 7327d

Should the Churches get involved in politics?

Contentious I know - but having read some of the newspaper headlines and articles today just wondered what others thought?

Vanessa Smith ● 7346d42 Comments ● 7327d

Cllr Ewes escapes April Fools Day pranks

because he was out for the day with his mates!!http://www.snowboundpress.com/images/ewes.jpg

Jim Lawes ● 7329d2 Comments ● 7328d

Many local residents will be much saddened by Pope John Paul II's death.

I'm thinking of a very religion Polish girl who works on the counter of a popular bakery in Old Isleworth.She told me some weeks back that she had recently met the Pope..and she had the photograph. She is close to a Polish religious group in Ealing and they are her home from home. I will have difficulty in not shedding a tear when asking her for my sandwiches next week.She, with many other Polish people in our Community, together with other Catholics and non Catholics will be saddened tonight by the news of the death of Pope John Paul. Although he had his critics...he nonetheless conveyed a wonderful presence.. he had an aura of spiritual leadership...and one cannot undervalue his role in enriching the lives of many Eastern Europeans.If he has died...how can any of us escape that final happening. Must put the kettle on again!

Jim Lawes ● 7328d1 Comments ● 7328d

Labour/Hounslow Homes and the great "service charge" rip-off

Some users of the forum may have read the article in this week's Hounslow Chronicle about ludicrously excessive "service charges" levied against householders who have purchased their council homes by Hounslow Council and its satellite organisation Hounslow Homes.Whilst few would disagree that leaseholders and freeholders should pay a fair share towards facilities which they share with neighbouring tenants, the charge has in practice amounted to nothing short of legalised extortion.I have written on this matter to both local newspaper groups this week, and reproduce the text of my letter in full below.  Any comments or observations would be welcome:"Dear Editor "There has been some controversy recently over the issue of grossly excessive service charges which are being levied by Hounslow Council against residents around the borough.  It is one which we in the Community Group have been working to tackle for over a decade. "The 'service charge' has become to all intents and purposes an unofficial tax levied by Hounslow Council against certain members of our community. "In November 2003 Isleworth resident Jan Ayres was awarded costs against Hounslow Homes after I had successfully defended her at Brentford County Court against a claim for charges amounting to £126.  The deeds of her leasehold home required her to pay "any reasonable cost" towards the upkeep of communal areas on the Worton estate on which she lived. "Although Hounslow Homes admitted in court that the work for which she had been invoiced had not been done, its Counsel insisted that she should pay the charge anyway.  The District Judge agreed with me that it was not 'reasonable' to charge a person for work which had not been undertaken, and threw out the claim. "A few years previously another Isleworth resident, Vincent Sharp, was not so fortunate.  In his case the word 'reasonable' had not been inserted into his deeds, and so the court reluctantly held that he was contracted to pay any cost which the then Housing Department should demand of him, whether reasonable or otherwise.  "The District Judge presiding over Mr. Sharp's hearing described the claim against him as 'most unfair'.  In spite of her comments Hounslow Homes has to this day continued to hound Mr. Sharp with completely unjustifiable demands on the grounds that it is able to do so on a legal technicality. "It is disgraceful, but not surprising, that the New Labour leader of Hounslow Council is found to be lining up with the extortionist rather than the victims, in this case residents of the borough whom he and his colleagues are supposedly in office to serve. "Your newspaper would do its readers a great service by trying to ascertain the views of our elusive Member of Parliament on this particular subject. "Yours sincerely "Councillor Phil Andrews -Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for the Community,Brentford & Isleworth constituency."

Phil Andrews ● 7335d29 Comments ● 7328d

Moron of the week

Seen in Whitton High Rd. this a.m. - a young lad with a Python slung casually over his shoulder! I kid you not - now if that isn't someone with a serious lack of grey matter I give up!

Vanessa Smith ● 7328d3 Comments ● 7328d

Phil Andrews looking very dapper!

A very smart looking Phil Andrews on his Election Website lately,have the BBC makeover team been in Isleworth recently? ;-)http://www.webspawner.com/users/communitygroup/index.html

Paul Fisher ● 7342d19 Comments ● 7328d

Farmers Market : quick meet  up afterwards at......

Well, we've been to the Beehive, then The Inverness Club, then the Six Bells, and more recently the Magpie and Crown on the High Street.If anytime is free..and has half-hour spare..how about meeting up at the WEIR Pub...behind the Butts...and the Courthouse...at say 1pm till 1.30pm!I'll be there...hopefully with Mobile 07956 907 354..possibly munching a scotch egg!

Jim Lawes ● 7329d4 Comments ● 7328d

Frivolous but funny

http://nannyknowsbest.blogspot.com/Perhaps not so funny.......eh?

Charles Guest ● 7328d0 Comments ● 7328d

xxFxxAxxRxxMxxExxRxx'SxxxxMxxAxxRxxKxxExxT xx  soon!!

Hush, hush.We don't want to attract those shouting messages again from those 'erberts from where-ever they came from...Brentford presumably.Maybe they had a fair point about the "high prices" at the Farmers' Market etc etc..but other than those rude communications..the two or three people concerned didn't contribute anything else to this Forum..to keep us amused or informed.   Nor have they participated in any discussion...encouraged help with a Brentford Fete or Carnival or even voiced an opinion about a Soul in the City type activity).  Shouldn't they be helping to support Matt, the Webmaster and his civic activities?So: reminder..Farmers Market next Saturday.  Your shopping list ready?  Your recommendations were helpful and interesting. More?

Jim Lawes ● 7332d11 Comments ● 7329d

Bite the bullet  and please mind the gap

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1548190,00.htmlNow that they are out, how on earth does she get false ones. Or is she condemned to eating gruel and porridge until Mr. Blair can strip the assets of our E.U. neighbours to fill the gap?

Charles Guest ● 7331d3 Comments ● 7329d

Just wishing everyone a HAPPY EASTER

Hi every one i would like to wish you all Happy Easter and enjoy all the chocolate and holidays if you have them.all the bestDebbie

Debbie Dewar ● 7340d15 Comments ● 7329d

Has anyone got any good april fools for me to play

Im looking for some good april fools to play any one got any good ones Cheers Debbie

Debbie Dewar ● 7329d0 Comments ● 7329d

decent hairdressers?

today i spent £17 in jeffreys getting my split ends cut and having the sides trimmed in all it was a five min job. My hairwash was longer and still  iwas charged such a price. as a student to me this is a lot of money and was wondering if there was any decently priced hairdressers in the area? i am a male but would not mind anyone cutting it..

vishal dattani ● 7332d3 Comments ● 7330d

Electricity and Gas Suppliers  ... who's cheapest in TW7 and TW8

Has anyone researched this subject lately?Apparently www.uswitch.com is a website that requests all your details...then I discovered an outfit called the Utility Warehouse based in NW10 and wondered if they were the best of all...as they say?As apparently 10% of fuel bills never get paid!!! I gather that direct debit accounts attract the lowest prices.  I spend £800 and more on gas and electricity and these websites suggest I could save maybe 10-15%.Anyone have advice?

Jim Lawes ● 7334d9 Comments ● 7330d

Nettle Soup

www.scalloway.shetland.sch.uk/nettle_soup.htm - 7k - You may blame Jim Lawes for showing me how to Copy and Paste!Admiring the nettles at the bottom of my garden (where the fairies are presently hibernating), I came indoors and looked up a recipe for nettle soup....No, I am not finally cracking up after the recent surfeit of miseries on our forums, I've decided you all need detoxifying and apparently nettle soup is the thing for the job!Well, I have made the soup, but have made it the basis for a chicken casserole, and it tastes fine.The signpost is at the top of this posting, and where the recipe mentions "neep", that's Scottish for turnip or swede.Go on, have a go.  There's one thing for certain - I've lived in Chiswick and Brentford - nettles always grew there in abundance.(No politics/no ranting/and no stinging if you handle the nettles with care!)

Ann S. Allridge ● 7338d5 Comments ● 7330d

Web designer wanted !

I'm looking to improve the website of a Chiswick based buisness, and wondered if anyone could recommend a local company or person?Many thanks!

Nick Jenkins ● 7379d2 Comments ● 7330d

The big day looms!

After 11-12 years together,my partner Shirley and I have at last got round to arranging to get married on the 28th May.As its also a good excuse for a little celebration drink,would anyone be interested in a little TW8 posters drink somewhere in the near future?

Paul Fisher ● 7336d6 Comments ● 7336d

Cane chair repairer

Anyone know where we can get a cane armchair renovated please? Someone local who will collect, repair and return? Thanks.  ;-o

Gerry Tan ● 7340d2 Comments ● 7336d

School Meals : Jamie Oliver's Petition

Enasha de Zoysa on the Putney Forum has asked fellow posters to check out the Feed Me Better site.How about we all sign it?

Ann S. Allridge ● 7336d0 Comments ● 7336d

Guided Walks

There are a variety of guided walks in the centre of London - can anyone recommend any interesting ones I can take a 16 year old who is interested in History, on?While we are about it, what about local ones, are they any good?

Sarah Felstead ● 7339d5 Comments ● 7337d

Strike off

Congratulations to the Government for agreeing to meet with the 5 public sector unions to negotiate on the subject of pension age. No doubt the prospect of 1.5 million public sector workers striking in the run up to a general election helped concentrate minds, but we should be grateful that common sense has prevailed and wish all concerned success in the forthcoming negotiations.

Vanessa Smith ● 7340d3 Comments ● 7337d

tsunami - 3 month remembrance

The Honerable Prime Minister of Sri Lanka, Mr Mahinda Rajapakse will be attending the Remembrance Day service at the London Buddhist Vihara on this coming Saturday, 26th March.26th March is three months from the date of the tsunami.  We are having an evening of remembrance at the Vihara, The Avenue, Chiswick.Starting at 4.30pm there will be an exhibition in the Vihara showing how the tsunami has affected Sri Lanka, what has happened since and how we (that includes many many people, not just members of the Vihara) have helped.At 6.30pm there will be a service of remembrance and we will then invite everyone to light a candle to be put outside the Vihara as a gesture of remembrance.Please do join us at some time during the afternoon/evening.

Pat Smith ● 7338d0 Comments ● 7338d

Upholsterer wanted...

Does anyone know a local upholsterer of repute? An old fella I know has a chair he's had for donkeys and wants it recovered and I said I'd ask you good folk for him..

Keith Iddon ● 7338d0 Comments ● 7338d

Kew Bridge Site :Important Planning Meeting tonight

A top Planning Meeting is being held at the Civic Centre tonight...at 7.30pm ..see the Hounslow Website.There is a very important presentation to do with the developement at KEW BRIDGEMaybe you already know about it.Members of the Community...and interest groups.. who are interested in the fate of this site ought to go along and lend their support...to the protesters. Don't  let the developers get their way!!Councillors on the Committee must be up to their eyeballs studying the papers ...so pop along!  (I only learned of this tonight at a Brentford Forum meet up..and was surprised to find no referrence to it on the Forum.

Jim Lawes ● 7340d3 Comments ● 7339d

Who want's to meet up in March

I will be in Brentford between 14th March to the 29th March.Who would like to meet up for a drink.

Neil Chippendale ● 7401d32 Comments ● 7339d

Testing:    problems posting messages?

Anyone else having problems posting messages?I've just spent 20 minutes typing out a reply to Luke...on the Cllr Phil Andrews topic...then have difficulty posting or submitting my reply.We all sometimes hesitate the option to edit what one has just written.. correcting any misspellings etc..in case the text is totally lost. So,maybe like others ..I avoid doing that. This afternoon the site wouldn't accept "clicking the SUBMIT box"...yet a click on my "BBC News" link brought instant success.

Jim Lawes ● 7340d6 Comments ● 7340d

Broncos win again!

Another try-fest at Griffin Park sunday saw the London Broncos move into 3rd place in the Engage Super League,and they are now the top try scorers in the league as well! Next up this friday at Griffin Park are Hull,and they should provide a stern test for the Broncos as they are one of the fancied sides to make it to the grand final and they boast a raft of top quality international players. Info on the London Broncos can be reached at www.londonbroncos.co.uk and info about fridays game click on this link thanks http://www.londonbroncos.co.uk/toplinks/nextgame.asp Cheers,go the Broncos!

Bill Drinkwater ● 7340d0 Comments ● 7340d

Costcutter !??

....is that the best they can come up with, in front of those " deluxe" waterside appartments???......dont suppose "Dennis" from Eastenders will be popping there!!

Nick Jenkins ● 7351d5 Comments ● 7341d

Views of Brentford....from cyberspace

http://brentford-dock.net/images/Galba-canal-view.JPGThanks to the Brentford Dock website for this shot...you wouldn't perhaps know it was there!

Jim Lawes ● 7342d17 Comments ● 7341d

Catherine Wheel Road Car Wash

I went to this one on Friday (18th)....."...and there it was gone...".Any ideas; did I pick the one bad day; has it closed; which is everybody's current favorite?

David Johnson ● 7343d2 Comments ● 7341d

farmers market

what is it about the farmers market that makes  the people in brentford buy overpriced goods from there. is it the fact they can walk around in their barbour jackets and green wellys and tell everybody how much better the food tastes. rubbish. what its all about is people coming up from the country and giving the townies a good fleecing. i reckon they have a good laugh on their drive home not believing how much they can charge in brentford.if you go to a market out of town the foods  half the price, so who s kidding who here.

Richard John Francis ● 7364d114 Comments ● 7342d

Why is the local drinking water tasting so foul today?

No just today....but quite a few times recently... I've noticed that the drinking water here in Isleworth tastes as though its been given a floride? or chlorine additive.A visitor remarked that the tea I had served them tasted odd. They too had had the same problem in Slough!What's going on?  We gather that local water has been recycled through plumbing and bodily systems some five or six times...but is this additive needed because of.......well I daren't think about it!

Jim Lawes ● 7345d4 Comments ● 7342d

Where would you like to be drinking your Guinness today?

This was the question in a "famous" Guinness consumers competitionback in the 1960's.Participants had to match photos of unusual places with a list of captions...and then for the tie breaker had to answer the above question in a most apt and original way.The names of places all over the world were submitted and then there were to funny places..in heaven etc etc.Over to you... maybe David Giles (Chiswickw4.com) could pick the winner!

Jim Lawes ● 7344d8 Comments ● 7342d

Black smoke - is there a fire?

We could see thick black smoke coming from somewhere towards the brentford lock area from our office window.

Rebecca Hobson ● 7346d6 Comments ● 7345d

Well done Heathrow Custom's doggy:  whopping drugs find.. 

So as the British Airways flight from Nigeria came into Heathrow on Monday morning at 5am...no doubt disturbing the sleep of some local residents...the newly trained dog was at the ready to sniff around the passsengers and suitcases in the Terminal building...perhaps much to the annoyance of some of the passsengers!Sniff, sniff around the suitcases...and suddenly the dog's nose twitches at a first-class passenger's trolley.  The Nigerian businessman was thus stopped in the Green channel...his baggage opened as he couldn't remember where the keys were(!)...and the story is that some 30 kilos of cocaine was found.....apparently worth over £2,000,000 at street value.It was apparently the biggest find for some 5 years. After appearing at Uxbridge Court, the offended will thereafter perhaps appear in sunny Isleworth Crown Court...and then..if found guilty..he will be a yet another addition to the UK's prison population. And presumable if he gets 10 years or more..we'll be paying..you and I!!What is of concern...is that because staff are low in numbers...when Customs officers and others are diverted to all the activities surrounding a CAUGHT passenger....other suspects are perhaps passing the Terminal building unchallenged.  So, a great catch..but more resources needed to catch the others too.Well done doggy!!

Jim Lawes ● 7345d0 Comments ● 7345d

Calling all sports fans!!

Whether your sport is football,cricket,union,league,why not give the London Broncos a go this sunday at Griffin Park as they take on Widnes Vikings in the Super League.After another superb home performance last sunday in defeating the famous Wigan side,the Broncos will be looking to consolidate their place near the top against lowly Widnes this week. Tickets and info at www.londonbroncos.co.uk. or can be brought on the gate,thanks!

Bill Drinkwater ● 7347d3 Comments ● 7346d

Thursday's Isleworth & Brentford Area Committee meeting

Isleworth & Brentford Area Committee meeting Thursday, 3 February 2005 7:00 pm, ***NOTE: 7PM START TIME***, Isleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Monitoring)at the Brentford Free Church Hall, Boston Manor Road.Any support for your local Committee?  Time to get involved?

Jim Lawes ● 7388d13 Comments ● 7347d

Holidays 2005 - suggestions?

Our letterbox is working overtime, with inviting looking holiday brochures flopping on the doormat. We usually go on hols abroad twice a year and we're looking for something a bit different for next year. We like the usual things - beaches, local foods and wine, old buildings, a bit of walking, clean and comfortable accommodation(not necessarily sumptious), meeting other happy holiday makers, but NO caravans, coaches, canvas or cruises! Any ideas, suggestions, recommendations based on personal experience, useful pointers etc please? Thanks.  ;-)  

Gerry Tan ● 7454d41 Comments ● 7347d

The Windmill site sold

The  site of the old windmill pub on the corner of Windmill Rd and Orchard Road has been sold. Does anyone have any information re the buyers ?

Linda Irene Butler ● 7347d0 Comments ● 7347d

PCG meeting, Monday

The Hounslow Community Police Consultative Group (CPCG) is to be given a presentation on firearms by a representative of the Police Special Operations Firearms Unit (SO19) at their next meeting (Monday 14 March 2005).Kath White, of SO19, will focus on the following areas:  · Background on SO19, including its make-up and the selection and training of ARV (armed response vehicle) officers;· The roles of ARVs, SFOs (Senior Firearms Officers) and Firearm Instructors;· The weapons carried on the ARVs;· Less Lethal Options available to the Police;· What justification the Police must have to pull the trigger;· What happens to the officer who has shot a subject; and· Some statistics on firearms calls within the Metropolitan area and specifically in Hounslow.The presentation will include examples of the weapons carried on the ARVs and a collection of imitation firearms.  A live demonstration will also be provided on the deployment of a taser.In addition to the main presentation, the meeting will have its regular presentations and Question and Answer session with senior Police representatives. The CPCG meetings are open to the public, and people are encouraged to use it as a forum to question senior Police personnel, including the Hounslow Police Borough Commander, Dr Ali Dizaei.The next CPCG meeting is on Monday 14 March in Committee Rooms 1&2 at Hounslow Civic Centre, Lampton Road, Hounslow.  The meeting starts at 7pm and will run for approximately 2 hours.

Sally Henfield ● 7352d1 Comments ● 7348d

A CURE FOR DIABETES,?

Interesting article reveals that a man has been cured of ,class one diabetes . simple introduction of a cell being inserted into his body has it that he is now free of needing insulin injections. I wonder how long it will now take to cure the rest of the population that suffer from this unpleasant disorder ?

Charles Ingram ● 7349d3 Comments ● 7348d

Dave  Allen R.I.P.

Just heard on the 6 o'clock news that Dave Allen the Irish comedian has died. We shall miss his wonderful sense of the ridiculous and most of all in this age of the politically correct his merciless mickey taking about all religions. Whatever God he followed I hope he too finds him.

Vanessa Smith ● 7350d4 Comments ● 7349d

Rat

I am looking for someone in the area who has a pet rat. I am a reporter for the Brentford Chiswick & Isleworth Times and recently wrote an article about rats in Chiswick House Grounds. I would like to speak to someone who has a pet rat so that I can give a balanced follow-on article.Any suggestions?Estelle Marais

Estelle Marais ● 7352d7 Comments ● 7349d

"Councillor admits post vote scam"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/4305255.stmThe relevance of the above to users of this forum can be seen from recent articles in the local newspapers, most notably "Electoral roll fiddling fears" (Hounslow Chronicle, 17th February 2005).In this article in was revealed that in one home alone in Feltham nine adults were registered to vote, but further investigation by the newspaper showed that at least three of those registered were not actually resident at the property.The problem in this case was that those responsible for electoral registration at Hounslow are not given the resources to undertake proper checks, leaving the system wide-open to abuse.The combination of an under-resourced electoral department, the trend towards more postal voting and more unscrupulous campaigning in certain quarters must ring alarms bells with those of us who value probity and standards in local political life.Could I please ask anybody who between now and the forthcoming general election thinks they may have witnessed improper practice of any kind to contact us at icg@communitygroup.org.uk with all the relevant details.  Anonymity will be preserved where requested.Thank you.

Phil Andrews ● 7361d5 Comments ● 7352d

London Broncos V Wigan Warriors sat 12th march

Lets hope the Broncos can put their off-field problems behind them as they take on the biggest name in rugby league.The game kicks off at 6 oclock,info from www.londonbroncos.co.uk ,the game will be live on sky sports for anyone who cant make the game or perhaps hasnt had the chance before to watch a game of Rugby League and would like a taste of what to expect.

Bill Drinkwater ● 7357d1 Comments ● 7353d

Antique door & window hardware

Hi all,Just a note to let Brentford know that I am local & selling antique door and window fittings suitable for renovation projects. My web address is:     www.vintagehardware.co.ukThanks, and a great 2005 to all.

Ian Silver ● 7361d3 Comments ● 7353d

Appeal for information on two girls involved in robbery

We are keen two identify two girls in their mid teens who committed a robbery in Half Acre, Brentford, last month  One girl was white, with blonde shoulder length hair, wearing silver hoop earrings & a white puffa jacketThe other suspect was a light skinned black girl, with a pierced nose and several earrings who had her hair gelled back in a bun with curls down the frontIf you have any ideas as to the identity of the suspects, we would like to hear from you.  Please call Hounslow Borough Police Ringmaster Office (anonymously if you wish) on 8247 6443

Brentford Police ● 7354d2 Comments ● 7353d

Charity Fund Raiser - correction

Sorry everyone, mea culpa. I got the date wrong.  My previous post should have read:-As a way of thanking the Neonatal team at LRI for their herculean effort to save the life of Kimberley Clements (born 14th February, survived only 18 hours) a charity night has been organised in the Brewery Tap, Catherine Wheel Road on Wednesday 16th March.  All are invited to join in to raise some much needed funds that will assist in providing help to other poorly babies. Thanks to Brian and Sandra for their support.Hope this doesn't cause any problem.

Alan Cudmore ● 7356d1 Comments ● 7353d

Tonights evening entertainment

Anyone else venturing to the Civic Centre this evening to see how much our Council Tax will rise?

Paul Fisher ● 7354d11 Comments ● 7353d

Opticians

Recommendations for opticians - puh-leese?

Sarah Felstead ● 7354d4 Comments ● 7353d

Election reminder

If the general election takes place, as expected, this May, you have until 4.50pm on Friday, 11th March 2005 to register to vote, if you haven't done so already. If you are not registered, or if you have any doubts, please contact the LBH Electoral Registration Officer on 020 8583 2095 or 020 8583 2137 before that date to make sure your details are entered.

Paul Fisher ● 7355d0 Comments ● 7355d

Are we wasting our time....trying to get to pig to sing?

I like those lines that have a meaning ...and better describe what one is trying to say.Such as:1) "It's like playing table tennis against a blanket". Should you just give up?2) "We're trying to get the pig to sing. All he does is grunt grunt grunt. The pig won't co-operate. We're wasting a lot of time,money and energy....AND worst of all....the pig gets annoyed"!Do you know of other clever apt or amusing lines..that enable one to overcome the obstacles of life.

Jim Lawes ● 7355d1 Comments ● 7355d

Old age puff

A new beauty term?Perusing the washing powder isle of Chiswick Sainsbury’s I was hemmed in by three elderly ladies (just short of their 90's by all accounts).  I wasn't in a hurry and had to actually check out what the offer on the packet actually meant, so I half heard the conversation as I read the packets.  The Ladies had gone through their hello's; where they all lived now; and why they had bumped into each other in Sainsbury’s, having come over from Isleworth ... the answer being there is only one bus to Chiswick Sainsbury’s and it takes 2 buses to their old shopping venue.  They then moved on to skin care and how old they were and how lovely their skins were.  Younger girls (I took it they meant girls in the 40's/50's/60's) were all splashing on all this moisturising cream, and they didn't put anything other than water on their faces.  Occasionally they dipped into the cold cream jar, but they were very pleased at how their skins looked, how young they looked and how none of them had gone down with old age puff...

Sarah Felstead ● 7358d5 Comments ● 7355d

Local Dump

Does anyone know of a local rubbish dump in the Brenford/Isleworth area? We are moving house and have a few items to discard.

Kristine Young ● 7361d10 Comments ● 7358d

Red-faced Labour Bigwigs forced to fly Flag from Civic Centre

According to Hounslow Chronicle 110 responded to on-line questionnaire on flying St George's flag unanimous in support. Labour leader has given in to pressure.Common sense 1 Stupidity 0

John Connelly ● 7358d5 Comments ● 7358d

"By George -Should Hounslow fly the flag?"

The LB of Hounslow's web site  has a section  called "Have your say".The current topic on there is entitled " By George.....(as above)"So tell the Council what you think!

Corinna Smart ● 7365d29 Comments ● 7358d

HOUNSLOWVIANS WILL FLY THE FLAG IN THIER THOUSANDS.

The strongest message we could possibly get to the few who decided not to fly our flag on the civic centre is a show of solidarity in WEST LONDON, WITH THOUSANDS  of ST George, flags flying from all sources.

Charles Ingram ● 7361d17 Comments ● 7359d

Brentford Hotels

I am researching hotels for a wedding in Kew Gardens. I know that a couple of hotels have opened recently on the stretch between Kew Bridge and the Watermans. Does anyone know what they are called, so that I can find out prices?

Gina Thomas ● 7362d6 Comments ● 7359d

Charity Fund Raiser

As a way of thanking the Neonatal team at LRI for their herculean effort to save the life of Kimberley Clements (born 14th February, survived only 18 hours) a charity night has been organised in the Brewery Tap, Catherine Wheel Road on Wednesday 9th March.  All are invited to join in to raise some much needed funds that will assist in providing help to other poorly babies. Thanks to Brian and Sandra for their support.

Alan Cudmore ● 7360d6 Comments ● 7359d

Bees v Saints

Half-time and the mighty Bees are dominating Southampton. 1-1 though.

Neil Chippendale ● 7360d3 Comments ● 7360d

London's Air Ambulance

In kingston, today, we saw the crew from London’s air ambulance service scrabbling around waving buckets, asking people for pennies to help them keep the service going.What on earth?

Sarah Felstead ● 7362d4 Comments ● 7360d

3rd March issue HM Magazine should arrive soon?

The 3rd March issue came through my letterbox this morning...with an image HM's 1st birthday cake and candle on the front page.The Magazine arrived on its own...and without any other advertising material.  So,it seems that the recent complaints about non delivery of many many magazines have had some impact.

Jim Lawes ● 7360d8 Comments ● 7360d

Disgrace of smashing up our local ealing road shop

The sweet shop on ealing road was smashed up after the football match today with both sets of fans fighting in the shop taking stock food and drinks and smashing all the windows which fighten the staff and onwer terribley my family went to help them clean up the devastation its a disgrace when you cant enjoy the football match in peace without small groups intimidating the other and fighting in the street like that esp when children are around.

Debbie Dewar ● 7363d11 Comments ● 7361d

We should all fly the ST GEORGES FLAG

Theres no doubt about it we are in england so we should all celebrate st georges day my family celebrate many things we always fly our england flags for all the reason that we are british as the saying goes as in rome do as the romans do!! Everyone should celebrate everything any excuse for a good knees up!!!! Look at all those great old songs great for St georges day Knees up mother brown, my old mans a dustmans, doing the lambeth walk, Its along way to tipperairy,just to name a few. Is there any pubs in brentford celebrating St Georges Day ?? please let me know i could do with a good knees up.Debbie

Debbie Dewar ● 7363d1 Comments ● 7361d

farmers  market

the original point i was trying to make was i think the marketis overpriced.contrary to what some of you may be thinking,this is not a conspiracy to try to stop the market, but  to make it more affordable for everybody in brentford instead of the lardy dah few.this is only my opinion.              i own a barbour as well.

Richard John Francis ● 7362d2 Comments ● 7361d

Twickenham Road closed tonight: Chemical spill near Hosp

Traffic driving from Busch Corner down the Twickenham Road this evening has been diverted away from the entrance area of West Middx hospital and diverted up Amhurst Gardens..back to the London Road.On the other side of the Hospital...267 buses had been diverted up Worton Road..and Bridge Road.Apparently the Chemical spill incident was reported in Ceefax. Police redirecting traffic.News at it happens!!

Jim Lawes ● 7363d3 Comments ● 7361d

BRONCOS' VICTORY

Good game eh? Even braving the cold was worth it for that scoreline.

Sally Henfield ● 7362d0 Comments ● 7362d

MOHICAN RECORDS LOOKING FOR LOCAL TALENT

Mohican Records are looking for looking local bands to play gigs and join an internet download partnership as well as getting web space to promote your band our aims are -OUR AIMS ARETo sell and create our own records Find and provide a music venue in West London for unsigned  bands The aim is to be a cooperative with no hassle contracts To allow bands to move on to better things if they so desire To help provide a web page for bands and a web presance, this is lot of work for a new band and we will provide that support The use of freebie tasters and album sales from this site A contract for a profit share dependent on the type of album sale and to endorse sub-licences to our distribution partners. To provide industry complient products ie Bar-coding To be memebers of industry trade bodies ie BPI AIM PRS MCPS and any other such body that promotes the interests of our artists Mohican Records will create a fund pool to which from Mohican Records will add from ovearall net proffit  add 1% to this pool, the pool will be divided between all artists we hope to build this pool into a fund from which artists can draw to help with projects. Mohican Records is a Ltd Company and does need to make money and balance the books to keep in Buisness. we expect artists to plug us as we plug you. Artists who go on to bigger things need to remeber to help others as they  where in same boat as you once. Please make a donation to the Artists fund pool. Mohican Records is registerd with Companies House Com/No 5115433. We will provide our Artists statements of acounts and a year end vision of where we hope to go in the next year. The Record Industry is not easy to get into and for new artists has many pitfalls not making the right decisions and giving your assets away to the wrong people can harm your career. Mohican Records was set up to help you get on the right track and give you a better understanding of how the industry works, we can provide many leaflets to help you understand the industry. Mohican Records will be opening an independent Record and Book shop in West London the name of the Shop is SHOP MOHICAN. the retail outlet will be a place to surf the net buy books and music enjoy a good cup of coffee meet friends a cool place to go, this will form the core part of our business. which allows and supports our ambitions. WE AIM TO WORK WITH THESE DOWNLOAD PLATFORMS - The contracts are still being finalized and a fuller list will become available-7 DigitalATS DigitalDigidiscoIMO DownloadKarma DownloadsMusic ChoiceMusicNetNapsterO2Playlouder MSPSony ConnectSony StreamManTunetribeVMSYahoo LaunchcastYeahronimo we will also sell CDS from the the site. We have our own PA sys and Light sys plus a digital studio to remaster and encode tracks with and cd prodution unit.CONTACT US AT  WWW.MOHICANRECORDS.CO.UK or email davemohican@mohicanrecords.co.uk

David Hughes ● 7370d8 Comments ● 7362d

The New Lampton Conference Centre will be costing ???

Do you remember the publicity last year about plans for a new banqueting hall etc etc to be built next door to the Civic Centre..at no cost to us..(I recall) as the money ..£2,000,000.... was coming from the Key Site One developers.There was that strange claim that larger facilities were needed in the locality to host extra large family weddings and the like.Today,the Hounslow Civic Centre website states that the plans have proceeded successfully through another planning process. There is a photo of Mr and Mrs Keen ..with Cllr Ellars and a model of the new plan.  However the text states that the cost of the Centre will now only be  "more than half met" by the developers!! So can we really afford it if the Community Charge also needs to up by 9%+ to cover next years budget...notwithstanding this extension to the Civic Centre.

Jim Lawes ● 7367d6 Comments ● 7363d

Brentford 3-3 Sheff Wed

Brentford 3-3 Sheff Wed

Paul Allen ● 7363d1 Comments ● 7363d

HM Magazine  (Thurs 17th February issue) received?

Cllr Corinna Smart has asked for information from those in the Borough who have no received their PAID FOR HM magazine.There seems to be a distribution "black hole"??  It's fortnightly except Xmas and January. I didn't get 5 consecutive issues..e-mailed Editor and received back issues...then 3rd Feb issue..but nothing since.So: Thursday 17th Feb issue. RECEIVED YOURS?  Gareth hasn't..nor me.The issues index (below) has been uplifted from the Hounslow Civic Centre website.NEWS  Work on Hounslow’s town centre development progresses  GSK mentors boost local learning  Regeneration sprouts in Chiswick  Residents recycle more than ever  New scheme provides handy help at home  It’s a good life on Snakey Lane  Hounslow beats London in beating crime  Free garden waste sacks on offer  Asian women’s group raises £2000  Win a bike!FEATURES  Share the love this Valentine’s  New police chief commands success  Send rats packing  Found in translation  You’re never too old to fall in love  Free smoke alarms save lives  It’s time to apply for primary school places  Council prosecutes benefits cheat  News from Isleworth & Brentford Area CommitteeWork on Hounslow’s town centre development progresses

Jim Lawes ● 7370d13 Comments ● 7364d

Transport and history buffs: This weekend's Acton Town show

Flicking through this week's edition of Whats On magazine..page 24..there is a model of the Edwardian (1901-1910)road scene at Kew Bridge.It shows the fountain in place,the Express Pub,the Water Tower, the adjacent houses and shops...and more importantly for transport anoraks(!)..the tramlines and trams and horse-drawn buses. What a gem.The interesting London Transport Museum Acton depot ..located across the road from Acton Town Station...opens only at certain times. This weekend it is open 11am till 5pm and there is an entrance fee.There are exhibits galore..model railways and trams galore, running miniture railways..and of course the regular display of London Transport historical underground rolling stock.We are spoilt in this region of the world...so much to see and do...and the Kew Steam Museum has live action and its birthday celebration the following weekend. Thank you Whats On magazine.

Jim Lawes ● 7364d0 Comments ● 7364d

Last night's full Borough Council meeting:a  Variety performance!!     

Imagine you decided to go out to the theatre..and when you entered the auditorium..you realised that there were only TWO/THREE of you in the audience!!!   The show carries on in front/below you..and you just get the feeling its all for YOU!!So arriving at the Civic Centre last night, I was directed to a staircase which ascended to the Public Gallery of the circular Chamber. I was high up in the "gods" and it was like looking down on a bullring..as the drama unfolded below.At an adjoining seat was the Chief Executive of a Midland Council who was inspecting and checking the audio system as his Council wished to follow suit. We chatted..then Mr Alan Sherring the Labour Party Vice-Chairman joined us.We all stood up as the Mayor (the non smiling Mayor) entered the Chamber..preceeded by an attendant wearing white gloves and carrying the Mace..and followed by the Deputy Mayor.On one side of the circle below sat eleven Conservative Councillors (in the 3 o'clock position)..the Mayor and Hounslow's Chief Executive sat at noon...the Liberals,and Community Group sat at the 9 o'clock position...and beneath us sat all the labour Councillors including Cllr Hughes!!  The sound system was excellent..if the speaker spoke properly!The sight of so many celebrity Councillors ;0)  and the anticipation of some great speeches was more that one could have wished for.Cllr Oulds didn't wave ;0)  but I could see him..and he was in lively form.As the almost inaudible Mayor opened proceedings, some Petitions were called out and interupted progress...including one containing 800 signatures from Feltham North (Cllr Mark Bowen) to do with the St Georges Flag flying denial. An definitive statement was demanded.Early hiccups for the Mayor (Chairman)were linked to members having difficulty understanding his seemingly abrupt style, and pronounciations. Cllr McGregor was most indignant at having his name incorrectly said.  However things got better.There were three main items on the agenda...the planned increase in Council House rents...percentage wise to be higher in W4...much to the accompaniment of Conservative howls. The proposals were supported with some 160 pages of A4 statistics and analysis..and complaints that Councillors had only had 24 hours or so to digest it all.Very intersting was the lengthy matter of new Technology..the ICT strategy...part of a wide ranging 3 part scheme to improve communications with residents and all.  A very comprehensive report had been prepared by Cllr  Amritpal Mann..and his efforts and that of the Scrutiny Committee were hailed by all sides of the Chamber. That was a notable happening.It seems that the Council's computer back up schemes were less than adequate..and measures to resolve this risky area were put in hand.Some great speeches and words from Cllr Adrian Lee and Cllr Bowen, Cllr Lynch and Peter Thompson  and Cllr Oulds...from John Connelly (several times) and the Lib Dem Councillors Hills, Howliston, Morgan-Watts.  It was a pleasure to listen to their delivery. Others spoke well too.   Brentford and Isleworth Councillors were quiet tonight.The discussion on the rent increases is worth seeing and listening too on the webcam video at Hounslow gov website.Soon we were on our feet again..the Mayor and his procession leaving the Chamber.  Then the excitment of meeting and being introduced to the Mayor in the foyer. He was charming..called me Jim! after all my forum criticism of his performances...we shook hands ..and then he joked about his "non-smiling" image.He broke into a big grin..acted like a comedian..and cleared the air!!  So, another evening out....wandering around this interesting Borough ..behind the scenes..and tomorrow its Chiswick. What questions will they be asking the Leader of the Council?

Jim Lawes ● 7367d9 Comments ● 7364d

Has anybody never supported Brentford/Football team

PeopleI myself have never supported 'football' etc but is there any other forms of entertainment in the Brentford/Chiswick area??

Kevin Farnan ● 7365d2 Comments ● 7364d

deli ready meals?

Anybody know of a local deli (Hounslow borough only) that makes its own healthy 'ready meals'?

Sally Henfield ● 7366d3 Comments ● 7365d

London Broncos V Wakefield Trinity sunday 27th feb

This should be a cracker.Wakefield will be on fire after beating 2 of the big guns,Bradford Bulls and Wigan in their first 2 games.The Broncos will be looking to make amends for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory at the Willows last friday night against Salford.Kick-off is at 3 o clock sunday 27th feb,visit WWW.LONDONBRONCOS.CO.UK for all info,thanks,Bill.

Bill Drinkwater ● 7370d2 Comments ● 7366d

What is happening in the local Labour party?

What with the National Pride issue, the New Lampton Conference Centre issue and the Mohican Records debacle, one has to wonder what the local Labour group are all about. Can anyone explain?

Gareth Evans ● 7366d6 Comments ● 7366d

wing chun

for classes in wing chun please visit www.josephleewingchun.com or phone sifu ken on 07759448544

Ken Taylor ● 7370d3 Comments ● 7366d

Naming the bridge

There's a competition being run by the London Development Agency to name the bridge/walkway into the new Wembley Stadium, any thoughts?

Vanessa Smith ● 7374d11 Comments ● 7367d

Cold dark Monday evenings? No holding back Local Historians

It was a treat of a meeting held by the Brentford and Chiswick Local History Society last night in Chiswick.We see write ups about the Society on these Forums and we hear the names of the key players, and achivists in the local Press..but maybe you haven't attended yet.The meeting, which started at 7.30pm, was held at the Chiswick Memorial Club in Bourne Place (stream flows underneath in a pipe?)..close to Chiswick Library.Arriving very late..I was very surprised to find a fairly packed ballroom with over 50 members spread around.. eagerly listening to Ms Andrea Cameron give an illustrated talk about the three Kew Bridges and local ferries.The detail and illustrations were marvellous...King Edward VII travelling down Chiswick High Road in 1903? in an open carriage...the CHR gaily decorated..hundred of Firemen lined up outside their Fire Station..bands playing..the King in the uniform of Field Marshall..the Express Pub in the background etc etc etc.and the grand opening of the granite structure of Kew Bridge.(King Edward VII Bridge)Membership fees are very modest, the speakers on the ball, the audience knowledgable and keen, inexpensive publications on sale...more ladies in attendance than men..and many local celebrities (in the prestigeous field of local history) in attendance.The meeting is held in a "Dan Mason" building (Cherry Blossom business benefactor to the Community).   In brief...RECOMMENDED..well worth a visit...and well done the 50 for braving the elements..but they knew that the subject matter and speaker were tops!

Jim Lawes ● 7368d1 Comments ● 7368d

Bees v Man U???Possible cup tie!!!!

Could you have credited it the Bees could be at home to the mighty Man Utd!!!Good Luck you Bees I hope you can overcome Saints and then its the Red Devils!!!Corinna

Corinna Smart ● 7368d11 Comments ● 7368d

Street Tree Survey HM Magazine

Tucked away in the free HM Magazine is a Street Tree Survey from the Council.  I would urge anyone who lives in a tree lined street to complete this form and return it (freepost) to the Council.As someone who lives with a huge tree on the pavement just 8ft from the front of my house, I think it is important that the Council maintain the existing stock of trees with regular pruning etc before considering further planting, particularly when they only have a limited budget.From experience it can take months to get any action from the council if you notify them that trees are too big and require pruning because branches are either damaging your telephone lines or worse you property!

Sula Riedlinger ● 7375d14 Comments ● 7369d

Rooney excels/Bees sting Saints?

Everton 0 Man Utd 2 (Rooney,van Nistelroy)Southampton 1 Brentford 1What do you reckon?                                        

Keith Iddon ● 7370d4 Comments ● 7370d

Garden waste

5 free sacks if we order before the end of March ... and I thought that the sales had finished!order online atwww.ectrecycling.co.uk/hounslowgardenwasteor on the telephone at 020 8813 3191/3192£2.50 for a pack of 5 bags

Sarah Felstead ● 7370d1 Comments ● 7370d

Southampton tickets shambles

Although I can sympathise with the many regular Brentford supporters who are enraged at the manner in which the tickets for the Southampton cup tie were sold, I think that demands for heads to roll at Board level are an over-reaction. This time last year I recall Bolton fans making similar demands of their board following the fiasco over the sale of League Cup Final tickets at Cardiff.Today many of the same people who said they would never go to see the team again are celebrating their team's success in the Premiership, and I am sure the club's management will not repeat the mistakes if a similar situation were to arise.Remember the progress Brentford have achieved this season, contesting at least for a play-off place. Compare this with the sad state of affairs as relegation loomed towards the end of last season. In truth, few supporters would have expected Brentford to be still in the FA Cup at this stage. Once the anger subsides supporters need to compaign to ensure the Board take action to ensure that proper ticketing arrangements are in place for the major away games that hopefully will occur in the 1st division next year.Good luck on Saturday!

John Connelly ● 7373d6 Comments ● 7371d

House names: any interesting ones in Brentford & Isleworth?

I was driving along London Road,Isleworth today..and noticed an old victorian house (sheltered behind a hedge and a wooden gate) with the name "Salopian House" affixed to the house wall..in metal script.So: I immediately recognised "Salopian" as being the Old Boys' name for a famous public school...and to which some famous people once attended.1) Are there any interesting house names in your area?2) Do you know who Salopians are?

Jim Lawes ● 7371d2 Comments ● 7371d

Civilisation as we know it to end.

Hang on to your hats! The Royal and Ancient announce that women may be allowed to compete in the Open Golf Championship possibly from next year and there is even talk of a woman becoming a Bishop! I don't find either of these things shocking - what the issue ought to be is - why haven't women already done these things? It is 2005 after all.

Vanessa Smith ● 7373d9 Comments ● 7371d

anglican parishes - history buff question

This letter was sent to the paper from America - anyone know the answer and I 'll pass it on...            I am researching the life of David Franks, a merchant in Philadelphia during the Colonial period. He is reported to have died during the last part of 1793 or the year 1794. He was staying with a son in Isleworth who had been raised in the Anglican Church (Christ Church, Philadelphia) and, very likely would have been a member of the local Anglican parish.             My problem is determining what Anglican parishes existed near Isleworth in 1793/1794. I want to find out where he is buried and when he actually perished. Can you help? Can you aim me at the right churches? I would be much obliged.             Thank you.

Sally Henfield ● 7380d8 Comments ● 7371d

Comedydockcom - February line up

Comedy at The Waterside Cafe Bar Thursday 24th FebruaryOur MC… for the evening is a chap called Michael Legge… Sharp, quick and fantastically spontaneous; Michael Legge is a unique comic talent with a background in improvisation, stand-up, writing, compering and acting. As a performer, he is cheeky, lively and charming, with a bite to keep you on the edge of your seat and he is one of the circuit’s most sough-after compere’s. Our open spot this month is a friend and colleague of mine from the world of television production… Steve Parry. He is brilliantly sharp, intelligent and hugely entertaining, in a very ginger way but this I know from working alongside him, whether this will translate to the stage is anyone’s guess.  Already a big competition winner, walking away with the Daily Telegraph Open Mic competition and runner up of Channel 4’s ‘so you think you funny’, Mark Watson has form… Originally from Bristol this young comic likes to converse, when on stage, in a delicate and wisp Welsh accent, I just think he likes it.  A bit silly, some might say surreal, Mark can find absurdity in the most mundane of subjects but the subject matter is not the joke… it is Mark, Mark and his ability to run with the ridiculous that will draw you in and make you laugh:  a naturally gifted performer who will let you see just how funny life, and comedy can be.' f young comedians: a star for the future" - Maxim"Magnificent Welsh miserablism and acid wit… supreme comic abilities… achingly funny material and assured delivery" - Daily Telegraph"By day he is a semi-serious novelist, by night a gangly Pythonesque performer. Catch him before real fame comes knocking" - Evening StandardHeadline – Reginald D HunterTwice nominated for the most prestigious award in comedy, the Perrier, and voted best Headliner by Chortle, Reginald D Hunter the coolest man in comedy. With his softly spoken, southern drawl he is the very embodiment of composed confidence. His stage persona gently invites the audience in as his set builds and builds, never pressured to rush his material he carries you along at a meander through his world, drifting cloudlike almost, his dulcet tones swooning you along… but Reginald is more than just a smooth talker: subtle and peppered come his gags, stories and observations...both simple and brilliant.This month you can find us at the Waterside Café Bar, Justin Close, Brentford Dock on THURSDAY 24TH FEBRUARY, proceedings start at 8.30pm. NO PARKING!!!As always the price of entry is £8 a ticket, the deal with the flyers has now expired but concessions are available for students and OAP’s.For more information and to reserve seats please visit www.comedydock.com or call Robbie on 07801 786046. Alternatively reserve your seats with Mel at the Waterside Café Bar.

Robbie Greig Smith ● 7372d0 Comments ● 7372d

ICG to contest in General Election

THE COMMUNITY Group has announced that it will be contesting Brentford & Isleworth constituency in the General Election if, as expected, it takes place this year. In the light of recent revelations about the sitting MP Ann Keen, as well as the deplorable tactic adopted by her campaign team of shamelessly trying to take the credit for the work of others in our community, the ICG would be failing in its duty if it did not do something positive towards seeking her removal, and her replacement by a local MP who will reintroduce decent ethical values into local politics as well as empowering local people and helping them to become more involved in the decision-making process. Naturally the first part of this process will be to choose a candidate. To this end we will be holding a Selection Meeting this Friday, 11th February 2005 at Isleworth Public Hall. All ICG members are encouraged to attend and to take part in this very important event which will decide who will represent the organised community in the big battle ahead. Whilst we acknowledge that only in exceptional cases do independents win parliamentary elections and will not be making any rash predictions, be assured that whoever we select to be our candidate will not be in this contest to make up the numbers. We are fighting to win. Any member of the ICG who is over 21 years of age and registered to vote in the UK may put himself or herself forward for nomination. Anybody wishing to do so should contact us on 020 8891 6359 or at icg@isleworth.org not later than noon on Thursday, February 10th. Please do everything you can to help us to achieve what would be a truly historic victory over the politicians at the polls.

Paul Fisher ● 7383d50 Comments ● 7372d

Anyone going to Southampton

Now the Bees a through who on this site is going to St.Marys to watch them beat Southampton.I would love to go but a day trip from Sydney is not on.

Neil Chippendale ● 7377d9 Comments ● 7373d

Crown Court

The Crown Court in Ridgeway Road has been there for a number for years, and although I have had several neighbours parcelled off for jury service, none of us have ever been inside ourselves.Youngest son has recently voiced thoughts about taking Law so it seemed a good opportunity to pencil in a visit during half term.I made a few enquiries about whether we could just turn up, and the hours the Court sits, and after sorting out what we could and couldn't do (it is okay to go in when the Judge is talking, for instance) we spent a couple of hours in one of the courts yesterday, and went back again this morning to another of the Court rooms.It is a very interesting experience.  I wrote notes to 'Son' when I thought I knew (!) what was going on, and we quickly got the hang of it.The Court yesterday was smaller and didn't have as much business going on, the one today was a much bigger room, and bustled all morning, with people appearing from the Cells with an accompanying PC.  I was going to say, 'cells down below' because you immediately assume that is where they will be, but I don’t actually know if that is the case.A number of the cases today originated from the Airport, and most of the pleas were guilty.  Even if the plea is guilty the defence barrister still launches into a world of explanations as to why the person committed the offence.  Mostly, the only reason they appeared to be in Court, was because they got caught, which may sound a strange comment, but each story was told about a respectable person, who was led astray on this one occasion.  * fooled into being involved in a large containment of cannabis - I was busily converting the grams into 'English' when somebody kindly explained the monetary value was somewhere over £300,000 – I understood that!  * fooled into carrying 5 forged passports, that sort of thing.There are numerous things about human behaviour which can be written about in a humorous way, and we saw a number of things which would, in turn, have you smiling.  Encounters with Hounslow Council can be recounted in a light hearted manner, and I don’t have much (any really) faith in getting anywhere with changing an archaic system which people are allowed to abuse because the system hasn’t moved on.I find this world very sad.  Somebody’s Son, somebody’s Daughter, somebody’s Father.  If I chose to find any amusing parts they would be about the Barristers.  Yesterday they appeared to be enjoying the joke about themselves and were very relaxed and happy and chatty whilst waiting for people to arrive.  Today they were all very busy.So, is there somebody I have left out?  Who might that be?  The answer to your question is  -  in this short snapshot of Court life, the Judge appeared to be very astute and fair.  We were very impressed!

Sarah Felstead ● 7374d5 Comments ● 7373d

Journalistic irony

Ken Livingstone recently made some comments to a journalist from the Evening Standard which have been published and for which Ken has refused to apologise. Some might say that the journalist, Oliver Finegold went beyond the boundary of reasonable journalism in his pursuit of Ken Livingstone and by doing so bordered on harassment.Piers Morgan (Ex-Editor of the Daily Mirror) wrote an article in today’s edition of the Evening Standard on the forthcoming marriage of Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles under the heading of “Don’t hate Camilla – Diana was always damaged good”. In his article, Piers Morgan states: ‘Yet when I met her (Camilla), she was really rather nice; polite, warm, very natural and surprisingly amusing. And this to a man who had devoted much of his professional life to making her private life hell’. Piers Morgan admitted through the article to carrying out his ‘devotion’ before having ever met Camilla Parker Bowles. I found this piece from Pier Morgan strangely ironic considering that many journalists, among them Oliver Finegold and Piers Morgan, pursue certain public figures to generate stories from both public and private lives, catering for the target readership of the newspapers. Many journalists do this not with the intent of unearthing some form of wrong doing but more to cater for salacious nonsense which their editorial management appear to think their readers want to read of. As Editor of the Daily Mirror, Piers Morgan pursued claims of soldiers from The Queen's Lancashire Regiment abusing an Iraqi. Piers Morgan was subsequently sacked after the newspaper conceded that the photos were not genuine. In the Evening Standard article Piers Morgan having admitted devoting much of his professional life to making the private life of Camilla Parker Bowles hell presumably in the process also set out to make the life of Prince Charles a miserable hell too. One can only imagine the effect that such stories have on the family, Andrew Parker Bowles, their children or for that matter, the princes or the royal family in general. It seems that as Ken Livingstone was leaving a function, Oliver Finegold asked Ken Livingstone for a comment and after no comment was given, pursued Ken Livingstone bombarding him with the same question, time and time again. No doubt, Ken Livingstone has issues with the Evening Standard and no doubt the Evening Standard has issues with Ken Livingstone but as Oliver Finegold works for the Evening Standard, why would Ken Livingstone want to comment? If the Evening Standard really did want a comment from the Mayor on the function, Oliver Finegold, or for that matter, any other journalist could have approached the Mayor’s press secretary. Where does journalism end and where does harassment start? For Ken Livingstone to be pursued by this journalist after it should have been obvious that Ken didn’t wish to comment and for the journalist to repeatedly harangue Ken in asking for a comment does to me suggest that there was an ulterior motive behind Mr Finegold’s antics, to antagonise and harass Ken Livingstone which Oliver Finegold seems to have done.

Gareth Evans ● 7374d3 Comments ● 7373d

London Broncos at Brentford this Sunday...

I have just booked my tickets to my first ever rugby league game at Brentford this Sunday. It is my first game as I am a typical 'bird' that is not really into football or rugby and I am hoping it will be a good day out - but also looking forward to a few bevvies before the match.  Are you going with your mates - will you be in Brentford having a few pre-match beers.  If so - let me know where you and your mates will be drinking and perhaps you can give us a few pointers about the rules, as I have not got a clue....

Louise Boulger ● 7382d10 Comments ● 7374d

Questions  for Isleworth buffs:    Where is ......

Question 1) Where is Queen's Bridge?Question 2) Is Queen's Terrace Isleworth in the Isleworth Riverside Conservation Area?Question 3) What is the old Queens Head pub in Chiswick now called? Question 4) What should Gillette Corner be more historically called?..perhaps.

Jim Lawes ● 7378d2 Comments ● 7374d

Canal developments and news ..and points of interest.

We have been following Nigel Moore's involvement with Canal matters and his ongoing battle to retain parts of Brentford's heritage.He certainly has certainly concentrated some of our minds and helped draw our attention to the study of our rich Local History, the developement of the canals and railways, and the mass of different employments undertaken by residents of old Brentford.   And who are we to demolish these links with the past?. Who is waiting in the wings to demolish parts of St Lawrences Church and use the adjoining land too?On other threads (and on the Ealing Forum) we have been unearthing pictures and information about Brunel's Three Bridges,..and the Hanwell Viaduct..the route of the Canal (6 locks?) at the St Bernards Hospital site..and much more.Within the London Borough of Ealing..well just on the canalside borders with Hillingdon...my keyboard fingers have directed me to a place on the Canal....called Willowtree Marina.  Restaurant and a bar,  moorings for 95 vessels?, houses and canalboat repair facility and somewhere worth a visit.  (Do a Google saerch for Willowtree Marina...and many pages of information and history are available).But, in particular, is the Willowtree Marina's reports (in their on-line newsletter) on matters with which Nigel is involved. Mr Ken etc..  See link below  (hopefully!)http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.willowtree-marina.co.uk/news/images/View%2520forward.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.willowtree-marina.co.uk/news/index.php&h=375&w=500&sz=276&tbnid=InvPGmPa2c8J:&tbnh=95&tbnw=127&start=17&prev=/images%3Fq%3DWillowtree%2BMarina%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

Jim Lawes ● 7376d10 Comments ● 7375d

5 mins to go...Bees leading 1-0  at Hartlepool (Cup replay)!!

3 minutes to go   still 1-0Brentford have had 9 corners..Hartlepool only have 9 men2 minutes to go   still 1-0Its getting frantic...90 mins up...now in injury time!!Hartlepool can't find a way through....1min 26 secs into injury time...Hartelpool fans start to flow out of ground..Hartlepool get free kick..Throw in to Brentford...3mins now into injury..WHISTLE GOES..........HOORAY BRENTFORD HAVE WON!

Jim Lawes ● 7377d6 Comments ● 7375d

Vyborg : new view

Jim/Sarah/Gerry/Roger and David Bowie???Take a peek at the new  views in Vyborg.  This has to be one of the best webcams in the  world.  Certainly Brentford, Chiswick and Waterford can't hold a candle to it.  Congrats to whoever is responsible.

Ann S. Allridge ● 7375d3 Comments ● 7375d

Bees` 300-mile hike starts Friday!

Press ReleaseWALKING 300 MILES FORONE OF YOUR SMILESFund-raising walk from Brentford to Hartlepool,11th - 22nd February 2005On Friday 11th February five football fans will set off from London on a three hundred mile walk north, arriving at The Victoria Ground, Hartlepool, twelve long days and almost three hundred miles later. The Brentford supporters aim to raise over £10,000 for two very worthy causes in the process.The money raised from the walk will be split between Bees United, the Brentford Supporters Trust, and Heal, the Helen Rollason Cancer Care Appeal. It is hoped to raise well in excess of £10,000 for the two organisations.Representatives from Brentford Football Club and Heal will be attending the start of the walk, and it is hoped that there will be good media coverage of the event, both at the start and en route. The pressare invited to join us at Griffin Park, Brentford between 8.00 and 8.30 on Friday 11th February.If you cannot join us at the start but would like to feature the story, or get updates, while weare walking then please call Rod Gowers on 0774 0946545. Any help you can offer in raisingthe profile of our marathon walk would be very much appreciated.Walkers; Pete Hayward, John Dempsey, Peter Atkinson, Dave Lane and Rod Gowers thank you in advance for your support.For further information, please visit our website www.beeswalk.com, www.beesotted.com or www.brentfordfc.co.uk or call Rod Gowers on 0774 0946545.The walkers would also like to thank the following companies who have kindly donated their services to help us achieve or goal: Travelodge, Mitchell’s & Butler PLC, McDonalds, Jako [UK], Amida Health Clubs, BIAS

Pete Johnston ● 7382d7 Comments ● 7377d

Vyborg "Cobbles" leading Isleworth "Paving Slabs" 97-80

Come on you slabs!!  you've got to catch up!

Jim Lawes ● 7377d0 Comments ● 7377d

Ailsa Tavern - lies, binge drinking and a bad attitude

Last night I visited the Ailsa Tavern in St. Margaret's for an MRAG committee meeting, and thought I would share my experiences with other members of the forum.Whilst the meeting was in progress we were interrupted by a young lady, the barmaid, who invited us to pay a pound to enter a sweepstake on the result of the England vs. Holland match, the prize being a gallon of beer.  I gave her a quid and drew out "no goalscorer".  I joked with her that hopefully I wouldn't have to drink it all that night and offered her my mobile number as I was planning to leave at about 9.00-9.30.  She confirmed that I could collect the prize at any time, but was strangely reluctant to accept my phone number (I figured that perhaps she'd got the wrong idea and thought I was a dirty old man!).Anyway, the meeting went on till about 9.45 and, sure enough, there were no goals in the match.  So I went to collect my prize, and was amazed to be told that I had to drink it all that night!  Now I enjoy a pint, but I had already consumed three pints of Kronenbourg (the bitter was as cloudy as mud), and eleven pints of that stuff in one evening is pushing it.  Besides that, sitting in the corner of a pub on my own forcing eight pints of alcohol down my throat in one hour did not seem to me like fun.  So I asked to see the manager.The manageress, who was about twelve, duly appeared and confirmed that I would need to drink all eight pints before I left that evening.  I pointed out that the barmaid had told me I could claim it another time, whereupon said barmaid simply shrugged her shoulders and said "I know, but I was wrong".  No apology mind.While I was arguing the case the manageress turned to her bar staff on several occasions, tutted and lifted her eyebrows, as though I were some kind of problem customer.  "I don't know," she said loudly so that I could hear her, "you try to give them beer and they still complain."I pointed out that she wasn't exactly trying to give beer away, as she had charged punters in the pub about £30-£40 for the £20's worth which I was claiming, but to no avail.Eventually she agreed reluctantly that I could go back tonight, but only tonight, and have my eight pints.  But knowing that I will do so in the face of moans and tuts, and whispers that the problem customer has arrived, I have decided that she can stick it where the sun doesn't shine.Am I the unreasonable one here?

Phil Andrews ● 7380d14 Comments ● 7377d

NEW IVYTAG WEB ADDRESS

I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM PEOPLE THAT IVYTAG HAS A NEW WEB SITE ADDRESS NOW WITH FOR THE FIRST TIME A FORUM FOR RESIDENTS TO LOG ON TO.YOU CAN FIND IT ALL AT www.ivytag.org.ukthankssimon (vice-chair)

Simon Anderson ● 7378d0 Comments ● 7378d

London Parking Enquiry

You may have noticed references to an  Enquiry by the Greater London Assembly into the parking regime in London.However, unless you are an invited witness, you will not be consulted.So we invite everyone to contribute to a "Shadow enquiry". Our questions follow the terms of reference of the Official enquiry, and our results will not be glossed or manipulated by anyone.  It will take about 3 minutes.To take part in the "shadow enquiry" go to:www.benchpoint.com/parkingPlease also share this link with your friends, neighbours and colleagues.We now have just over 500 responses from all over London- thanks. If we can get a few more we will achieve a crebible statistical sample, and the results will be taken seriously.We will share the results with subscribersThank youRichard Gaunt

Richard Gaunt ● 7378d1 Comments ● 7378d

New ICG website at www.communitygroup.org.uk

The ICG's website has moved to www.communitygroup.org.uk and has now been updated.  We hope to have the old domains pointing to the new site by the middle of next week at the latest.All constructive feedback welcome.

Phil Andrews ● 7379d2 Comments ● 7379d

Another great map of the area  1890

http://www.ealing-web.com/ealing_c1890.htm

Jim Lawes ● 7381d4 Comments ● 7379d

Dirty tricks revealed in todays Evening Standard.

A Tory candidate was accused today of trying to smear a Labour MP who has fought back from a stroke. Greg Hands, the Conservative candidate for Hammersmith & Fulham, has issued an election leaflet highlighting the recent illness of Iain Coleman. The document tells voters that Mr Coleman was left with "slurred speech and problems walking" after suffering the stroke. It goes on to point out the Labour MP has not spoken or voted in Parliament since last May because of his condition. The leaflet comes days after the Conservatives rounded on Labour for waging a "dirty tricks" campaign ahead of the general election. But Labour said Mr Hands's action showed the Conservatives were resorting to underhand techniques. One Labour official described the leaflet as the "lowest of the low". Mr Coleman, 47, had a stroke last July. Although he had temporary paralysis in one of his legs, he was back at work in September and is expected to make a full recovery. The MP, who had a majority of 2,015 over the Conservatives at the 2001 election, questioned his opponent's sincerity. He said: "I thought he [Hands] was being a bit snide. It is a very marginal seat and [the Conservatives] are going to fight a vigorous campaign. They say they want to fight a clean campaign and we will judge them on what they do." In the leaflet, distributed across the constituency, Mr Hands writes: "Local residents will have seen in the papers reports that the local MP has had a stroke. Due to his illness, the MP has not spoken or voted in Parliament since May 2004 and has made no known public appearances in Hammersmith & Fulham in the last eight months." Mr Hands adds: "We wish the MP all the best for a swift recovery and look forward to a vigorous campaign. "We need to make sure that all the issues like tax, the economy, the NHS and schools are properly debated." Speaking to the Evening Standard, Mr Hands expressed surprise his remarks had caused distress, saying: "The message was very clear that we were wishing him the best for a swift recovery." Labour accused the Conservatives of fighting the "dirtiest possible" personalised campaign. A party spokesman said: "They claim that Labour's questioning of Michael Howard's record as the minister who gave us the poll tax and three million unemployed, and who supported 15 per cent interest rates, is part of a dirty campaign. But when it comes to dirty campaigns, Michael Howard's Tories wrote the book."

Paul Fisher ● 7380d2 Comments ● 7379d

Dame Ellen Macarthur

How about that young woman?   What a great sight, to see her coming into Cornwall surrounded by all the small boats; it was very, very moving.While she was on her epic journey, there was an occasional crack on some tv shows about her  'snivelling' on board her lonely craft, well I hope those creeps (usually 'comedians') are eating their greasy caps.I think she has always been great, is great, and can never lose her place as top of the sailing elite.  As Elizabeth I often did, I think Elizabeth II should do the "Arise, Dame Macarthur" on board Ellen's beautiful craft. Three cheers..........

Ann S. Allridge ● 7380d2 Comments ● 7379d

Film crews on 08 February in Brentford

Did anyone see the film crew outside the Magppie and Crown today? seemed quite a large set up. They were having a break when I walked past so couldn't make out what the programme was - does anyone know?There was also another crew filming at Brentford FC. At this rate Brentford will overtake downtown LA as a regular location.

John Wood ● 7381d4 Comments ● 7380d

Forum Pub Meeting in March

Can anyone remember what day I suggested for the next meeting. I know I said the venue should be the Magpie & Crown but I cant remember the day. It was either the 21st or 22nd March

Neil Chippendale ● 7381d5 Comments ● 7381d

Which famous Isleworth family was linked to Titanic disaster?

I understand that a house of theirs on the corner of St John's Road once caught fire on the anniversary of the disaster.In more recent years a giant advertising hoarding was erected on the site..before the corner offices were built??..showing a picture of the disaster !!..and promoting Smirnoff Vodka.!!So: which family?   Overseas entries welcome!!

Jim Lawes ● 7383d19 Comments ● 7381d

Racist Abuse at Griffin Park

When I saw the headline I thought there had been "chanting" during a game, and was relieved to find it was only an ignoramus shouting his mouth off at one of the stewards.He was ejected from Griffin Park (hopefully with a size 10 planted squarely up his backside!)and has been to Court for his disgraceful behavior.  Good show, the Bees!

Ann S. Allridge ● 7382d4 Comments ● 7381d

Hot spots for accidents?

Where are the potential 'hot spots' for an accident you have seen as you travel around the Borough?

Sarah Felstead ● 7400d8 Comments ● 7384d

"Ideally, we'd like to increase  Council Tax by 9.6%" says HBC!!

So said Cllr Colin Ellar, Leader of the Council, when he made a presentation last night in Brentford.He was giving the London Borough of Hounslow's Budget Presentation for 2005-2006 to the Isleworth and Brentford Area Committee. "But as the Government would not be too happy with anything over 5% (we'd be capped otherwise)we have got to look at making cuts and efficiency measures"It was the first time..I believe ..that the Brenford and Isleworth Councillors had been given the news..and in written form...and it seems that Councillors and others all over the Borough have little time to make their observations and "cuts" recommendations...before the full Borough Council meeting on 8th March...when the Council Tax rate is fixed!!"We try to avoid cuts in front line services or where people might lose their jobs"  "Savings of £3,000,000 to £4,000,000 are needed"Cllr Ellar spoke very clearly and competantly..and delivered his Report with the aid of visual slides. However, IMHO he would sound quite impressive whether he believed in what he was saying ..or not!!" How can we make recommendations when we don't know what each Department is spending?" said one Councillor in  reply.  "You say that 2000 residents are consulted about this budget by phone...still to be done..and yet I have never been asked" said a co-opted Committee member..a resident for 20 years. (These consultations with residents are conducted by an outside body..like MORI?..but who knows what really happens!!)"Well, indicated Cllr Ellar,  I'm touring round all the Area Committees by 24th February to get their views...then I need to see the results of the consultation with 2000 residents..and thendiscuss the matter with others before the Tax decision is made on 8th March"Cllr Edwards was absent sadly  and thus unable to participate in the seeming showdown. "How can residents or Councillors make observations without much more expenditure information...so that they can trawl through the figures" said a Conservative Councillor. ("There's a good mixed bag of all Parties on this Committee...and its probably the best of the five in the Borough" one of the audience said to me. They get on well..and seem to work in harmony for the common good)Of Council expenditure, 30% comes from Council tax (comment: how many in the Borough never pay?).70% comes from a Government Grant..and each London Borough Council is  hopeful that their next year's increase will be HIGH. Hounslow will be getting an extra 4.9% ..about £9,360.000 extra...and is sad that it is not higher compared with some other London boroughs.The appropriate Government Minister, Nick Rainsford..won't budge..saying that Hounslow's population has decreased!!!! in the year according to the Office of National Statistics (I'm sure I've seen 50,000 new faces as I tour around the Borough!!)  and that other Boroughs have a differing "age" composition and more serious civic problems. (So thats where the dosh goes..to those troublespots!!)The 52.2% of the Council's money goes to Education (there are 30,000 children to look after)..and non of this allocated sum can be used for anything else.  Then 22.2% goes on Social services  ..leaving some 25% that WE are free to spend as we can afford!! Libraries etc.So: if the Office of National Statistics can be proved wrong..and they admit that Hounslow population is more than some 213,000..well then Hounslow could receive a bigger Govt grant.  But if Hounslow cannot prove how many live in the Borough....the figure could be 250,000!!..we will continue to get a lower grant..yet still pay out for all these invisible people.I must go to 

Jim Lawes ● 7386d26 Comments ● 7384d

It's Sunny in Australia.

Spring has sprung. It's 8.30am and I am wearing shorts and a polo shirt. Temp should reach 32c today.I still miss Brentford though.

Neil Chippendale ● 7517d60 Comments ● 7385d

Litter on the streets of Brentford

I know I have asked this question before but, is Layton Road the dirtiest road in Brentford?Over the last week or so the build up of litter in this street has driven me mad.  Last night (not for the first time) I swept the pavement and kerbside outside my home.  It took me about 15 minutes and I collected and bagged up a large selection of litter that comprised a large quantity of assorted paper, coffee cups and cans.  I only swept outside my home and the rest of street is still litter strewn, no doubt by the time I get home this evening this will have blown about and more will have been deposited and the area outside my home will probably be just as bad as before I swept it.This morning however I walked through Layton Road crossed Windmill Road and down Orchard Road to get to Brentford Station.  Orchard Road appeared to me to be almost litter free.  What "litter" there was suggested to me that it had probably been dropped by recycling/rubbish collectors.  There was a pizza wrapper and a neatly folded cat food box and a drink can.  Not the sort of things normally dropped by passers by. It could be that the litter in Layton Road was also dropped by rubbish collectors.I know that London in general is filthy with careless inconsiderate people dropping rubbish all over the place and I can't necessarily blame the council because residents appear to take absolutely no responsibility for cleaning up mess deposited outside their houses but I really am sick of seeing the street I live in covered in rubbish.  I remember as a child seeing women on their knees with a tin of Cardinal Red polishing door steps and tiles etc., at the time I found it very odd that someone would polish a doorstep.  However I can now understand why they did it, presumably they took pride in their homes and the streets they lived in, something that appears to have gone by the board today.  In any event, is Layton Road the messiest road in Brentford or can anyone name somewhere as bad or worse?

Bernadette Paul ● 7387d9 Comments ● 7385d

Where was Thieves Lane on the Ealing Borders?

If you search the year 1800 Map of north brentford and hanwell you might find thieves lane  and the site of a roman settlement.So which present day road seems to have had a name change?

Jim Lawes ● 7388d6 Comments ● 7385d

Farmers market

With apologies if it is somewhere else on the site and I have missed it - but does anyone know when or if the Farmers Markets are to resume?

John Wood ● 7403d10 Comments ● 7386d

Town Centre Redevelopment

I have just read the news that the 'Controversial development to begin within 6 months'.  Does the council ever listen to the residents?  I see no reason to endanger any of the thriving businesses around Catherine Wheel Road and The Ham for the sake of developer's profits.  What reasons are the planning committee seeing that so clearly override local opinion?  Agreed there are a number of empty warehouses and derelict offices, but this is a direct result of uncertainty over the future, and the many muddled and fanciful proposals of the past few years.  If redevelopment is to succeed, it must be a balance of existing and worthwhile new, rather than trendy just for the sake of it.

Alan Cudmore ● 7494d61 Comments ● 7386d

Hounslow Borough's Overview and Scrutiny Committee

Two things....I notice that in the Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham that there are..I believe..members of the public co-opted onto the O and S Committee.   But not at Hounslow. Any reason for this?Secondly I notice that Cllr Hughes is on this Committee..and have been reading some of his messages on this and the Chiswick Forum.

Jim Lawes ● 7395d3 Comments ● 7386d

RSPB 'Big Garden Birdwatch' 29 & 30th Jan

This weekend 29th and 30th Jan, is the RSPB's annual 'Big Garden Birdwatch' where there is an open ivitation for people to spend one hour identifying birds and numbers  seen at any one hour in those 2 days in your garden or area near you. It is very informal and easy to do. You can get a recording form from their website www.rspb.org.uk/birdwatch . It might be interesting to post our results for Brentford here and see what birds we have?

Duncan Walker ● 7393d16 Comments ● 7387d

Blue plaque houses in Brentfoed?

Are there any blue plaque houses in Brentford? You know, the "so and so lived here" heritage plaques?

Gerry Tan ● 7477d27 Comments ● 7387d

Brunel designed Brentford Dock and Branch Line

Jim’s earlier posting of the Three Bridges on Windmill Lane got me digging around. The bridge is Brunel’s unique, cast iron, three-level structure that took the lane over the canal and the canal over the branch railway line with the third bridge carrying a footpath. It was part of Brunel’s work for the Great Western Railway. As part of this he designed the original Brentford Dock which began construction in 1855 as a freight link between river-borne traffic and the Great Western Railway's (GWR) rail network to the West Country and other parts of the United Kingdom. In 1859 the great Western and Brentford Railway Company opened a broad gauge line between Southall and Brentford Dock. Initially for goods traffic it carried passengers from 1860. Some remnants of this line can be found in Brentford including the remains of Brentford Town Station and the road bridge on Augustus Close, in Brentford Dock, which goes over the Ham road and the river Brent/Canal. See http://pages.britishlibrary.net/overground/brentford/ for pictures of the bridge. Getting more interested I found this about The Brentford Branch Line www.gwr.org.uk/nobrentford.html which just shows what marvellous engineering works we are capable of. More to follow…..

Duncan Walker ● 7393d29 Comments ● 7387d

Burglaries - Carville Crescent, Lionel Rd North & Plum Garth

There have been a number of recent burglaries in the area around Carville Crescent, Lionel Rd North & Plum GarthSuspects have either forced open windows or gained entry through a window which has been left open.  Once inside, they have stolen handbags & cashPlease do avoid making your home an easy target for burglars by checking that all windows (however small) are locked both at night and when going outFor further advice regarding home security, please call our Crime Prevention Office on 8247 6423

Brentford Police ● 7387d0 Comments ● 7387d

3rd February  issue of HM  Magazine on its way : with photo gallery

Its shocking to think that some residents just bin this document when it comes through their letter box.Maybe its because I'm a paper hoarder...but I always find something of interest and "educational" in them.  This issue contains a photo gallery and contact information about all of the Borough's Councillors..and it should be at your elbow ..before you blast away at the keyboards!!PS: Please add to this thread if you do not receive your copy..as the quality of the distribution exercise is under observation...here anyway!

Jim Lawes ● 7388d3 Comments ● 7387d

Fax your MP

After trying yet another avenue for my MP to reply to a simple qustion i posed to her i took the suggestion of using the Faxyour Mp service.As i of course had not had a reply after three weeks i was invited to submit my feedback.Mr Sheerings,can you help me get my question answered or is Ann Keen just plain rude in responding to the general public?Unlike most other workers in the public sector, the performance of MPsis not measured and published. With your help, we'd like to fix thiscurious anomaly.Your feedback will allow us to publish performance tables of theresponsiveness of all the politicians in the UK. The majority of MPsrespond promptly and diligently to the needs and views of theirconstituents. They deserve credit and respect for theirconscientiousness.Likewise, we're keen to expose the minority of MPs who don't seem togive a damn.Rest assured that we will not store ANY data that could be used toidentify you. We do not keep a copy of the letter you sent to your MP.-- the WriteToThem.com team

Paul Fisher ● 7397d30 Comments ● 7387d

Map of  Hanwellarea  map found on the web..dated 1800!!

http://www.mazefind.co.uk/cms/ohra/HanwellMap1800.jpgDuncan: you can perhaps add this to your collection.The Ealing Forum is studying the site of an old school (Hanwell Community Centre) on Drayton Farm.

Jim Lawes ● 7388d1 Comments ● 7387d

London Broncos v Warrington 13th feb.

I know a lot of you are fans of the Bees,but how many of you know that another professional sports team play at Griffin Park? On sunday 13th feb,the London Broncos R.L. team kick off Super League X against the Warrington Wolves.I know rugby league doesnt get much exposure down here,but as a fan of the club since 1989 i thought i would try and do my bit to get some new supporters down.If you like your sport tough give the Broncos a go,you can find out any info you need from the official club website www.londonbroncos.co.uk ,thanks,Bill

Bill Drinkwater ● 7388d1 Comments ● 7388d

Inverness Lodge:  was it Lunatic Asylum?  !!!

I have been cyberspaceing around the St Bernards Hospital website/records..and find that in the mid-1800s both Wyke House..(currently the subject of a planning application) and Inverness Lodge in Boston Manor Road gave hospitality to patients at the St Bernards..Read on if you are interested..it seems that the Lodge was very active in this field!Wyke House, Sion Hill Brentford A 1786 map shows two parks with houses in. The largest is Osterley Park marked "Mrs Child", to the south east is one marked "Robinson esq". This smaller park and house is exactly the position of Wyke House (between Syon Lane and Wood Lane) on a 1948 map. The area is now a sports ground with a small "Wyke Green" north of it. A new house according to the 1844 Report although Parry-Jones p.28 says it this was established in 1826 Licensed to W.B. Costello, M.D. 22.6.1846 Alexander Morison records in his diary that Dr Costello is offering him Joint Stock Lunatic Asylum shares at £25 each for Wyke House. 30.7.1847 14 patients at last visit 1850 Report p.395: Dr Bascombe and Mr John Gregory replace Dr Costello as proprietor Wyke House, Brentford The following entry in the Gardiner Hill family Bible indicates they had moved from Lincoln to London by 1856: 18.9.1856: Hugh Gardiner Hill born Old Brentford in the parish of Ealing, Middlesex. One of his godfathers was Dr E.S. Willett. 1857 Robert Gardiner Hill's history of the abolition of mechanical restraint June/July 1858 Confinement of Rosina Bulwer-Lytton at Inverness Lodge. Twenty six chancery lunacy inquisitions: first December 1858, last November 1904 1859 licensed to R.G. Hill (surgeon) and Dr E. Willett 16 male and 12 female patients. 2 men and 3 women found lunatic by inquisition. Robert Gardiner Hill moved to Shillingthorpe 1867 Comments: "Wyke House continues to be well conducted by the proprietor Dr Willett. Private patients of both sexes are received here. Between 20 and 30 patients usually dine together. During the autumn some correspondence took place between the Board and Dr Willett, respecting the medical charge of the patients during his occasional absence, which resulted in the appointment of Mr George Mickley, who now resides on the premises as assistant Medical Officer". George Mickley appears to have become physician at St Lukes by 1881 1870: Dr E. S. Willett 1.1.1874: licensed to Dr E.S. Willett 24 male and 19 female patients. 13 patients found lunatic by inquisition. 1881 Census: Sarah Jane Willett, aged 50, (married) Occupation: Private Lunatic Asylum Wife, shown as head of the household. Frederick Willett, son, unmarried, aged 26, Secretary to Lunatic Hospital. (Wyke House Private Lunatic Asylum, Syon Hill, Isleworth, Middlesex) Listed in 1901 census A Registered Mental Nursing Home under the 1959 Mental Health Act? Parry-Jones p.28 says it this was still operating as a nursing home in 1972 January 2005 I received an email from Therese Caudell. Unfortunately, Tiscali have been unable to deliver my reply. If Therese or anyone who knows Therese reads this, I will be very interested to hear more Hunter and McAlpine say that Robert Gardiner Hill was joint proprietor of three London houses: Wyke House, Earls Court House and Inverness Lodge, Brentford Middlesex. I could not find Inverness Lodge listed as an asylum. However, Dr Hill of Inverness Lodge, Brentford examined Rosina Bulwer-Lytton on 21.6.1858 and she was confined at Inverness Lodge for about two weeks in July, being released on 17th July (See Timeline) and a letter survives from Robert Gardiner Hill to Rosina's husband, written from Inverness Lodge in 1858. Rosina described it as "a very fine house in fine grounds which had formerly belonged to the Duke of Cumberland". From her carriage window, when she arrived, she saw about 50 ladies walking in the grounds who were the patients, but who Mr Hill called his "children". They were "picking strawberries". "Mr H--- sent all his 'children' to his other madhouse farther on the road, so that I had the Palladian Villa all to myself". Rosina also says "after my departure", due to "public indignation" "Brentford became to hot for him, and he removed to London". (Bulwer Lytton, R. 1880 pages 36, 37 + 55) A John Tattersall took a 21 year lease on Inverness Lodge, Boston Road, Brentford Butts, Ealing from 25.3.1862. Near the junction of Boston Manor Road and Windmill Road there is now Inverness Lodge Social Club Ltd, 9 Boston Manor Road, Brentford, TW8 8DW. Harefield

Jim Lawes ● 7388d0 Comments ● 7388d

On film location in Brentford

I’ve just ordered a video of the 1950’s film ‘Belles of St Trinians’, a terrific English film, which I watched in my childhood. And much later when on a business meeting at The Oakley Court Hotel, Windsor, I was pleasantly surprised to learn that the grand gothic mansion was the location of the St Trinians films. This got me thinking of the fine tradition of TV and Filming we have in West London, and where Brentford had been used as a location in Film and TV. Some of you may have seen film crews on Brentford Dock itself and also on the river in front of Ferry Quays, probably for TV work.This is an interesting web site: www.famouslocations.com/vta/brentford.php which lists a few films using locations in Brentford, such as Syon House and Park; Kew Bridge Steam Museum; Accident (1967) Follow Me! (1972) King Ralph (1991) Madness Of King George, The (1994) Richard III (1995) Emma (1996) Wings Of The Dove, The (1997) Avengers, The (1998) Wisdom of Crocodiles, The (1998) Golden Bowl, The (2000) Gosford Park (2001)Syon Park promote their location for filming www.syonpark.co.uk/filming.aspIn the Rainbow Jacket,  1954 www.imdb.com/title/tt0047390/ there are supposedly  “Great shots of Brentford and west London and some of the main line train stations…and the Griffin Pub in Brentford.Hell Drivers, 1957 has a shot of Brentford gas works www.busstation.net/screen/screenfmh.htmIn April this year the Griffin Pub was used as a location for the new film, Yanks, http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.483037.0.streets_transformed_for_stars_new_film.phpOh yes and wasn’t the shot of Dixon of Dock Green outside the police station under the blue lamp in the late 50s TV series, shot at the old Brentford Police Station in the High St?Anybody know of any more?It won’t be long before we can attract a film festival!

Duncan Walker ● 7529d21 Comments ● 7389d

Look what's a-rose in Isleworth

Anybody living in Isleworth who fancies a bit of light relief could do worse than to read the Jan/Feb 2005 issue of The Rose, the "news"letter of the "Isleworth Labour Team".  News of the ILT's death, like Mark Twain's, has been exaggerated - but by no means greatly.They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  Thus it is that for all the ICG's alleged non-activity since its three councillors were elected with a massive majority in May 2002, every event for which the leaflet claims credit (except for one, which it is welcome to) has actually been the work of the ICG and the organised community:*  "Mogden Court Victory" - after incurring the wrath of the community for trying to take the credit for the work of the resident-led Mogden Residents' Action Group, The Rose very graciously accepts that MRAG played its part after all - then tries to imply that it has been involved with the MRAG campaign.  Hopefully nobody will think to remind us that one Alan Sheerins actually had a letter published in the Brentford, Chiswick & Isleworth Times a few months ago (not to mention similar statements on this forum) accusing MRAG of being an ICG front group!*  "267 Bus - Survey" - evidently the ILT plans to conduct a survey of the 267 bus service.  Where could they have got the idea for this from, one wonders?  Not from the two well-publicised surveys already conducted by the ICG, surely?*  "Park Road Parking" - The Rose seeks local residents' views on rat-running through Old Isleworth to see "what can be done".  Presumably nobody has told them that a road plan incorporating a 20mph speed limit was approved at the last meeting of the Isleworth & Brentford Area Committee following a long residents' campaign led by ICG Chair David Freeman?* "20 Church Street, Old Isleworth" - Apparently Labour councillors (by implication only Labour councillors) have "rejected" the most recent scheme for development of this site.  Sadly there wasn't space on the leaflet to point out that the Area Committee's concerns were ignored by the Labour-dominated Sustainable Development Committee, which approved the application two days later.* Traffic Schemes" - New safety measures along Twickenham Road which were successfully negotiated by ICG councillor Dr. Genevieve Hibbs are apparently the work of Labour ex-councillors many years ago.  Labour also claims credit for "improvements" along Worton Road which, in this instance, we are happy to concede.  The works in question were introduced to mitigate speeding caused by Hounslow Council's imposition, without consultation, of parking restrictions which were deeply unpopular with residents.  Hounslow completely ignored the objections of Isleworth ward councillors to force these "improvements" through Area Committee.Although already so obsolete that had it been our leaflet we would have put the whole lot into the recycler and started again, this hilarious tract is still being distributed by New Labour's world famous leafleting team (a.k.a. The MFI Three) to addresses throughout the Isleworth ward.  That it takes two months to leaflet a ward which the ICG would cover comfortably within a week gives some idea of the party's local strength.Its only useful purpose would appear to be to introduce the ILT's new contact man Chris Boucher to potential voters in Isleworth.  Chris, readers will be surprised to learn, is another board member of that famously "non-political", publicly-funded council agency Hounslow Homes, and is currently telling everybody who will listen that he is to be a New Labour candidate in Isleworth ward at the next local elections.  Again, as the selection process has not yet even taken place, this gives some indication of the party's strength in the area.Residents of Isleworth are already looking forward in a spirit of eager anticipation to the March/April issue of this literary masterpiece.  Suggested features include last month's weather forecast and a stirring account of how Labour councillors led the fight against the Worton Green development.Watch this space...

Phil Andrews ● 7389d0 Comments ● 7389d

Dick Turpin is alive and well and works for a bank.

£10 to get money out of a hole in the wall! It seems this is the latest con-trick of those poor, poor banks. ATM's are changing to pay to get your own money out by stealth, by charging anything from £1.50 to £10, absolutely disgraceful! In rural areas where banks have shut down people are facing ridiculously long journeys to find a "free" machine, and the impact of people trying to exist on benefits having to cough up for the privilege of the Government's wheeze of direct payments hardly needs pointing out. High time these legalised robbers were regulated, but it will be up to us customers to vote with our feet as well.

Vanessa Smith ● 7391d4 Comments ● 7389d

The Ham: Will the remain's of "Brunel's" Railway viaduct be saved?

If you go down The Ham roadway..and before you get to Teddies Nursury...(in the old School ..originally built in 1815.. according to a plaque on the right hand side wall) you will come across the remains of the railway bridge/arches.It looks as though these arches are occupied by some small business on the right side..and by delapidated vehicles,a caravan, and general junk on the other.The area could do with a Community Clean-up..like we did on the Brentford Riverbank with Nigel Moore and friends.  When the area is spruced up a good bit..it will then be in better condition for the the surveyors and others to judge whether it could be renovated and saved as part of Brentford's Heritage.Perhaps there is a plan somewhere. The 1895 map of the area..shows the small triangle...a grass area I believe where "Fairs and fetes were held...according to a lady I met at Gunnersbury Museum yesterday.I understand that the railway Bridge and the viaduct over THE HAM was built in 1859 ish..at the time of Brunel's death.Any further information anyone..or suggestions?

Jim Lawes ● 7390d3 Comments ● 7390d

Leave Ann Keen alone!

Poor thing has even hijacked Hounslow Boroughs pavement 'crazy paving scheme' without knowing it!Give a girl a break chaps!:-)

Sarah Felstead ● 7393d5 Comments ● 7390d

Cyclists

This posting is not specific to Brentford I am simply having a rant about cyclists.  They drive me nuts.  I have lost count of how many times I have practically been mown down by them whilst attempting to cross major roads at traffic lights showing a green light for pedestrians.  This happened to me again this morning where I narrowly missed a cyclist (or he missed me) who was bombing through a red light on Putney High Street.  I have on at least 3 occasions actually seen cyclists crash into pedestrians at crossings and actually witnessed the cyclist then verbally abusive the pedestrian for being in their way!Then of course there are the cyclists on the pavements (I almost don't blame them for cycling on the pavement as I would also be petrified to cycle on the roads - if I were a cyclist)but they also act as though the pedestrian has no business being in their way on the pavements.Further, I have twice almost killed cyclists whilst driving and neither incident had anything to do with me.  The first was whilst driving (fortunately very slowly) through Chiswick High Road when a cyclist fell practically under my wheels.  The chain on his bike had broken and he just fell off.  There was nothing I could have done had I been moving at anything more than a snails pace, he would have been straight under my car.  I can't remember what happened the second time but I do know I am extremely wary around cyclists, which is of course no bad thing.  However, they appear to be immune from all traffic laws unlike the motorist who is clobbered for road tax and insurance,  mots, etc. Even to todays news of the girl being prosecuted for eating an apple whilst driving.  (However I have to say I'm not sure I could drive particularly well holding an apple).Along the Great West Road there is a cycle track but still cyclists take to the road rather than use the cycle track.  Then there are the cyclists who carry children on the back of their bikes.  Are they nuts?  My heart sinks every time I see this.  I am sure these cyclists do not commit any of the things I am complaining of above but having experienced first hand the chain breaking incident I always feel no matter how careful these cyclists are the same thing could happen to them and what would happen then to their child passenger.  In a perfect world we would all cycle everywhere and cars would be banned but since that is unlikely to happen I really feel cyclists should somehow be forced to be more responsible and certainly to obey traffic signals which relate to them as well as to cars.Any cyclists out there want to disagree?

Bernadette Paul ● 7396d18 Comments ● 7390d

A recommended Isleworth to Brentford walk?

http://www.london-footprints.co.uk/wkislebrent.htm

Jim Lawes ● 7391d0 Comments ● 7391d

Celebrating Poland Exhibition finishes this Sunday 1pm-4pm

It was about time I got out of my car...and go to a local treasure. Today it was Gunnersbury Park Museum.I used to play football in the park years and years ago..sad that the changing rooms (in the old farm buildings) were burnt down some years back.I hadn't seen the boating pond for 45 years! No boats now but plenty of wildlife. And squirrels scampering amongst the bushes.  The Cafe was open too.So, into the Gunnersbury Park House Museum I went. Open the big door and into an elegant hallway..with a large reception desk and an area selling local history books, postcards, and there were lots of leaflets.The place is full of archives that need to be taken into account when you are researching at the Local Libraries.This is the Museum for Ealing and Hounslow. It's address is in W3..but its located in Brenford..(although originally purchased in the 20's by the Councils of Ealing and Acton).So: all four areas can claim it!Mrs Joan Cattrell (Brentford Historian?) was on hand to show me to the Polish Exhibition area...two large rooms...and other rooms featured "local shop window displays of older times" and the Brentford Football Club display.Apparently over 200 people turned up last weekend to see the displays..and THE LAST DAY IS TOMORROW  for the Polish Exhibition.  Photographs and text were well presented and covered the harrowing period from the 1930's to the more joyous times in the 1990's. One recalls when Lech Werwensa(sp) came to London...and also the Pope too.The costume and dresses section was fab..the brightly coloured textiles which relayed such national pride. There were several keen observers there today...and it should be busier tomorrow (1pm -4pm).A list of esteemed Polish achievers was lenghty..but it included one of Ealing's Forum contributors. (Love to meet you!!)Did you know that Ealing Town is twinned...with a suburb of Warsaw? Bielany? Hounslow is twinned with Lahore..and also a suburb of Paris.So: tomorrow..nip along to Gunnersbury Park..north east corner.OK!

Jim Lawes ● 7391d0 Comments ● 7391d

Car thefts - Braybourne Drive

Two cars parked in Braybourne Drive have been stolen this week.We advise you to be vigilant, make sure that all your security measures are in place when parking and call police if you see anyone acting suspiciously around parked cars

Brentford Police ● 7392d2 Comments ● 7392d

Fahrenheit 9/11

Any comments?Some of the war scenes from Iraq were horrendous, and I had to turn away, but was determined to see the film through to the end.I am not at all surprised at the allegations about "President" Bush.Till the day I die, I will not forget his face when he was told  about the attack on the World Trade Centre; he was totally at a loss as to what to say or do.  Now realising that seven minutes actually passed while his  'minders' stood waiting for his reaction...seven minutes...I am more certain than ever that the man is a complete moron and puppet.Tony Blair frightens the life out of me now;  it is only a matter of time before Bush will be sending troops into Iran, and Tony (brown tongue lolling out, hanging onto Dubya's coat tails) will accede to any request from the White House for more of our young men.Am I hot under the collar?  You had better believe it.  

Ann S. Allridge ● 7393d8 Comments ● 7392d

Dear Ed

- Newsflash at bottom of the pageIs that the same missing boy being found safe and well, in Brentford?  Or is this a new Police success rate?          ;-)

Sarah Felstead ● 7392d0 Comments ● 7392d

The retirement of Carolyn Hammond from Local Archives Library

Reading the Agenda for tomorrow's Chiswick Area Meeting...I noticed that Carolyn Hammond..the distinguished local historian..has retired from Chiswick Library after 40 years service...on 31st December last.She was awesome in her knowledge..and as you may be aware she has published many books about the area.I don't recall seeing any mentioned of this either in the local Press or on the Forums.We wish her a long a happy retirement.

Jim Lawes ● 7396d8 Comments ● 7393d

Double Yellow Lines

Some strange markings have appeared on the pavements in Clifden Road which look suspiciously to me like double-yellow lines are about to be randomly painted everywhere.Can the Council do this without any consultation with the residents, or can they just put them wherever they feel like it?  If and when these lines are painted it will restrict parking opportunities in an already overcrowded road.

Jennifer Long ● 7393d0 Comments ● 7393d

The high cost of specs at the High Street Opticians

One seems to spend a fortune at Dolland and Aitcheson in Hounslow High Street..and I recall sales assistants encouraging me to pay out£150 and more for new glasses.Indeed a pair of bi-focals cost me over £200. The problem is I keep losing glasses and damaging them as I jump in and out of my Van or car..and particularly when I'm carrying boxes of print etc.Having spent £1500 over say £5 years,I today wear a £10 pair from Tesco!! ..and thats not good.So, it came as no surprise to hear on the radio of a young lad who discovered that these Optical outlets charge us TEN times the cost of manufacture. It sounds a rip off. The four or so main High Street optician shops trading in unison  keeping prices high and the suppliers of frames and lenses being a bit of a "closed shop".This young lad has set up a GLASSES DIRECT type website..selling proper glasses at massive price reductions. Any comments.Also..Ive heard the same thing about hearing aids. Apparently prices are so much lower in places like Denmark..and it apparently pays to fly over there for a "fitting weekend" !!

Jim Lawes ● 7399d8 Comments ● 7393d

Sudden death in young adults

I keep tripping across a newspaper article dated 20.8.2002 from The Times (health section page 12, if anyone has their Newspapers on CD).I had heard of a young girl dying on the sports field when my boys were young and until I read this article I was unaware that youngsters taking part in sport were at risk.The web site I have attached at the bottom is an organisation set up to advise on sudden death.The article is quite long so I will pick a few bits out of it to repeat here - I hope that they are in context."Sudden death Syndrome claims up to 8 young victims every week in the UK."Sporty youngsters who put stress on their heart are most at risk if they have an underlying heart problem."The main cause of SDS is hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, and abnormal thickening of the heart muscle which research shows is present in 1 in 500 people."Health campaigners believe that electrocardiogram testing of teenagers can detect up to 97% of heart muscle disorders."This summer (as date of article) the first testing of state school pupils took place during a pilot project in the Western Isles where 300 teenagers, aged 14 to 18 were tested.  13 were then followed up with echocardiograms and ultra-sound scans.  On average 4 % of those screened need further investigation. "Dr Sanjay Sharma said 2Having dealt with the bereaved relatives and seen the pain they go through, I believe it is our duty to try and convince the Government that EEG screening should be available to all adolescents before they leave school.  It is quick and simple and can reveal underlying problems with the heart.It then goes on to say that in Italy they have established a link between sports and SDS and it is mandatory there for all children participating in representative sport, including schoolchildren, to have YEARLY cardiac screening. I asked my Dr about screening for my teens and he arranged for and EEG to be done at our practice.http://www.c-r-y.org.uk/

Sarah Felstead ● 7394d1 Comments ● 7393d

ITS DONE THE HAIR IS OFF

AS OFF 230PM TODAY I HAD NO HAIR LEFT.THE TOTAL RAISED SO FAR FOR GRT ORMAND ST HOSPITAL IS £780.I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SPONSERED ME.AND A BIG SPECIAL THANKS TO CLL ANDREWS FOR THE SUPPORT AND HARD WORK HE PUT INTO THIS FOR ME AND GREAT ORMAND ST HOSPITAL.IF YOU STILL LIKE TO DONATE TO THE TOTAL RAISED SO FAR THEN PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME AT simonanderson2@blueyonder.co.ukthanks everyone

Simon Anderson ● 7394d9 Comments ● 7393d

Today's message count: Ealing 35,Brentford 57,Chiswck 208

What a healthy and interesting situation..problem is some of us are  not getting on with our admin!!

Jim Lawes ● 7395d1 Comments ● 7394d

More night flights over Brentford?

Recent headlines in the Evening Standard appear to indicate that the Department of Transport wants to dramatically increase night flights in to Heathrow before 6am. For those regularly woken up at 4.30am by the flights that are already allowed this is disastrous news. However we do have a chance to respond to their 'consultation.'The current consultation gives residents at least the opportunity to say what they think about this. The consultation closes on the 29th October. Hounslow council are asking us to do so. See their website: www.hounslow.gov.uk. It is worrying that something that could seriously affect our quality of life is in danger of slipping through almost without notice, few I speak to seem aware of what's planned. The consultation email is: nightrestrictions@dft.gsi.gov.ukPoints to raise could include the following from the HCAN website:There are pressures to sort it out:- The Terminal 5 Inspector recommended that the Government looked at extending the night quota period- The Secretary of State for Transport agreed it should be reconsidered when he accepted the Inspector's’ report in 2001.  He said then:“The Secretary of State recognises that there is considerable concern about night noise amongst people living around Heathrow, and he intends to pursue the suggestion made by the Inspector. In accordance with what the Inspector says, he will consult on an extension of the night quota period when he next puts forward proposals for the night noise regime for the BAA London airports.”- The EU Noise Directive requires member states to measure noise levels over an eight hour night period.- On the Average Weekday the following reflect peoples sleep patterns. At:                                               6am:  90% asleep                                    7am:  65-70% asleep                                   8am:  23% asleep                     (Source:  UK 2000 time use survey, published by the Office of National Statistics)- The Government has never produced any evidence to show how many night flights, if any, are essential to the health of the national economy.  - BA stated at the Terminal 5 inquiry: ‘British Airways would operate no more night flights (leaving or arriving between 23.30 and 06.00), from the opening of T5, than it does today.’ Why shouldn’t they be held to their pledge?If enough people respond hopefully the government will moderate its proposals. I can't think what nights in Brentford will be like if they don't.

Phil Whitehead ● 7493d23 Comments ● 7395d

Beating the bounds.

Sorry if this topic has been covered previously,but are any of the old boundary stnes for Brentford still in place/exist?? I know years back it was a ritual for the elders to take some of the youngsters around to all the boundary stones to teach them the areas Brentford covered.Cant say as ive ever seen any of the stones,have you?

Bill Drinkwater ● 7395d2 Comments ● 7395d

charity head shave

i just like to invite anyone who wants to atend my charity head shave.i am doing it to raise money for great ormand street hospital and so far have raised £732 and there is more to come.if you would like to make a dnnatio please call me on 07913 152928.the event happens on wednesday 26th january at 2pm inside the isleworth congregational church in worton rd.all welcomethanks

Simon Anderson ● 7396d4 Comments ● 7395d

Where was this photo taken? somewhere in the Borough?

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.michaeltaylor.ca/esos/lt/T-exv113.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.michaeltaylor.ca/esos/lt/lt1113.shtml&h=457&w=640&sz=36&tbnid=mebaWVPrjfQJ:&tbnh=96&tbnw=134&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3D657%2Btrolleybus%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DGThose were the days!  Any idea re the location?

Jim Lawes ● 7396d10 Comments ● 7395d

Beating the bounds.

Sorry if this topic has been covered previously,but are any of the old boundary stnes for Brentford still in place/exist?? I know years back it was a ritual for the elders to take some of the youngsters around to all the boundary stones to teach them the areas Brentford covered.Cant say as ive ever seen any of the stones,have you?

Bill Drinkwater ● 7395d0 Comments ● 7395d

Ikea beds

We are thinking of buying an Ikea bed frame and mattress.  They look great in the catalogue and the show room - does that match with your experience?

Sarah Felstead ● 7396d1 Comments ● 7395d

Ocado deliveries

Good morning everyone. For those who receive grocery deliveries from supermarkets, do you tip your driver or not? I never have done but my driver last night hung around as if expecting something and for the first time it occurred to me that this may be the done thing. What do you think?

Caroline Riddell ● 7401d8 Comments ● 7396d

Last Chance to see inside St Georges Church (Piano Museum)this Sunday

2pm - 5pm..then the Church door will be locked for what we're told..is the last time before the Museum closes.In the future, you may be able to still see the Church tower...but the main part of the historic building is threatened...still?...with demolition! 

Jim Lawes ● 7485d5 Comments ● 7396d

The Kings and Queens ..who have visited the Borough..

Well, we remember that the Queen came to Hounslow recently...has she been to Brentford of Chiswick.King George 6th (whilst still a Prince) accompanied his father George 5th to open the "new" Civil Service Sports Ground in Chiswick in the mid 1920's.King Edward 7th came to Brentford and Chiswick to open the "new" Kew Bridge in the early 1900's.Can't recall if Queen Victoria came to Brentford...did she?And Neil is telling us on the 1777 thread that William 4th was in Brentford High Street in the 1820's.Any more info?

Jim Lawes ● 7397d11 Comments ● 7396d

E111s

Found an interesting article about E111s.  They are about to be replaced by a European health Insurance card.  If you completed one last year - it is now out of date!  They ran out on 31.12.04.  Ones being issued now run until 31.12.2005, and if you 'tick-the-box' you will be sent the new Euro card automatically.You can download the forms needed from the site but you still have to take them to the Post office for validation.1.  Web site www.dh.gov.uk2.  Health Advice for Travellers3.  Right hand box with a picture of new card  - "The European Health Insurance Card and important changes to E111 form" a snippet of info from the site: "As a result of recent changes to European law a new E111 form has been introduced to replace the old one. If you are planning to travel to the countries concerned during 2005 you should apply for the new E111, as the old ones are only valid until 31st December 2004. The main difference between the old and the new form is that the new form is now issued on an individual, as opposed to a family, basis. However, you will only need to complete one application form in order to receive E111s for you, your spouse/partner and children. The new E111 form will be valid until 31st December 2005."

Sarah Felstead ● 7397d2 Comments ● 7396d

Mogden residents win historic court victory

What a superb result at Feltham Magistrates' today for the Isleworth and St. Margaret's residents who have fought against the unacceptable level of odour which has been visited upon them by Thames Water and its Mogden sewage plant.The London Borough of Hounslow's PR people fired off a Press Statement almost immediately, dropping the names of our beleagured local MP and majority party councillors, but let us not forgot who has really done the work in bringing TW to heal - the residents themselves who have campaigned through the Mogden Residents' Action Group (MRAG), led by the tireless Hanifa Dobson, and the thousands who supported them with petitions and with their regular and documented complaints.MRAG is probably the finest example of a local community-based, resident-led interest group which has operated without the stifling influence and interference of party politics.  Its management team have been absolutely first-class every inch of the way and it is a disgrace that their very crucial contribution was not even acknowledged in Hounslow's press release.The battle is not necessarily over.  There is every chance that Thames may appeal the decision of the court.  Nevertheless it is an important landmark victory and a huge well done to Hanifa and the team for making it happen.

Phil Andrews ● 7471d47 Comments ● 7396d

Residents' Association relaunched with a bang - well done Worton!

Last night I had the honour of chairing the Annual General Meeting of Residents Of Worton Estate (ROWE) the official RA of the community on Isleworth ward's second largest housing estate.The association has been going for many years but as is so often the case too much responsibility had fallen on too few shoulders and active membership had dwindled to a bare few.A few months ago Hounslow Homes unilaterally announced that it was "suspending" the existing association (!) and seemed to be trying to promote a factional takeover by one group of residents who were keen to reboot the association and get it active again.  The aim of vitalising ROWE was of course a worthy one but I and my fellow ward councillors sensed that there was more to this and we were uneasy with the implicit hostility to the existing committee members who had tried their best under difficult circumstances (one of whom is in her late seventies and was recently critically ill).Fortunately the residents asked me as their elected ward councillor to chair the meetings leading up to and including the AGM.  The result was the election of a united committee comprising the existing Chair, a new Secretary and Treasurer and a full compliment of committee members from a cross-section of the community.  A spirit of real unity was apparent at the meeting and committee members old and new seem very keen to pull together for the greater good of the whole community on the estate.  The well-attended meeting discussed a number of outstanding estate issues which the reborn association will be taking up with the various appropriate authorities with the full support of their elected members.Taking a leaf out of Hounslow Homes' own book, their invite was sent by second-class post to the wrong address and ought to arrive some time next week.Obviously as everybody is welcome to participate in the association there will be no demand on the estate for the establishment of any rival or parallel group - everybody is able to work together as one, which is how it should be done.My sincere congratulations and best wishes go out to ALL the people on the estate who had the foresight to come together to make this work.  I am very, very excited by this development and pledge to it my wholehearted co-operation and support.Well done Worton!

Phil Andrews ● 7402d4 Comments ● 7396d

Tentelow Lane School still stands..built in 1767!!

Talk about history staring one in the face...two of us stopped off at the Fuller's Plough Pub in Tentelow Lane...north of Osterley Park..for a quick refreshment on Wednesday night.It was a first visit there for 20 years. As we parked the car I noticed some small cottages etc in some detail...for a change. To our surprise one building had a plaque saying it was a free School..built in 1767 no less.Normally one would just drive by and not notice these things.The evening concluded at Madhu's Restaurant in South Street Southalllisted in the Good Curry Guide..as the best in the UK!

Jim Lawes ● 7400d6 Comments ● 7396d

Isleworth community activist seeks sponsors for children's cancer charity.

Former Acting Secretary and Office Manager of the New Ivybridge Tenants' Association (NITA), Simon Anderson - now active with the independent tenants' group Ivytag - is seeking your support to help him raise funds for REACH, the children’s cancer charity.Simon’s daughter Shivon (9) was recently diagnosed with leukemia and is currently undergoing treatment at Great Ormond Street Hospital in London.She is being very brave but is concerned about losing her hair during her treatment.  As a gesture of solidarity, Simon has agreed to have his hair shaved off and is seeking sponsors.  All proceeds will go to the charity.The event had originally been booked for the Bridge Link Centre on Ivybridge but the offer has apparently been withdrawn, and will now take place in the hall at Isleworth Congregational Church on Wednesday, 26th January at 2.00pm.  Local press will be in attendance.If you would like to sponsor Simon – or, better still, to help him raise funds by collecting sponsors on his behalf – please contact Simon on 07913 152928.All offers of help and donations, no matter how small, would be greatly appreciated.  Many thanks.

Phil Andrews ● 7402d4 Comments ● 7396d

This Month's Line Up

Steaming into its third successive month at the Waterside Café Bar COMEDYDOCKCOM brings you your New Yearly dose of Stand up Comedy. This month you can find us at the Waterside on THURSDAY 27TH JANUARY, proceedings start at 8.30pm. OUR ACTS… Our MC… for the evening is a very competent young man who goes by the name of Quincy, one word. He has a lovely, lively demeanour and a very quick wit which will always keep him one step ahead of the average, common or garden heckler. His material ranges from his childhood - growing up in a West Indian family in saaa'f laaaandon – to some very pertinent observational references. We will this month… bring you an ‘open spot’ for the first act, open spots are always fun. Every new comic needs to get out and about plying their material - more often than not they are rubbish but they are the future of comedy so we will of course lend them our ear. Tonight we will mostly be listening to Liz Stephens…. Winner of Channel 4’s prestigious ‘So you think your’e funny’ Award and nominee for the ‘Chortle best newcomer’ Tom Wrigglesworth is assured and confident in his delivery, as well he might given the strength of material in his arsenal. There are some stylish one-liners, an undercurrent of sick humour that occasionally bubbles to the surface and an ability to riff with the audience that's rare in one so new to the circuit. You’re Headline Act… Craig Campbell is a top selling circuit act has the ability to hold his audience in absolute stitches of laughter. His routine ambles along with beautifully crafted stories of his past, his travels, his Scottish family and of course his love for moose…plural… He is a magnificent story teller and in the old fashioned sense: adopting the persona’s of all the characters in his head making himself as tiny as a mouse or as great as a grizzly bear all in the same stride… As always the price of entry is £8 a ticket, £6 for concessions. For more information and to reserve seats please visit www.comedydock.com or call Robbie on 07801 786046

Robbie Greig Smith ● 7397d0 Comments ● 7397d

Hounslow Labour's ..disgusting website!!  X certificate

http://www.hounslowlabour.org/Be Warned..this link produces XX rated images.How on earth has this been sanctioned?

Jim Lawes ● 7400d3 Comments ● 7397d

1777 Brentford map..

http://www.ealing-web.com/ealing_1777.htmMeandering around the old Hanwell website...I can across this map.See Little Ealing Lane...is that a lake going from north to south...Is that the start of the Brooke Road stream?Nigel's The Ridgeways Canal Basin is clearly shown...opposite the Market Square. Facinating stuff..just two clicks away!!

Jim Lawes ● 7400d21 Comments ● 7397d

Stop criticising Ann Keen MP: she's doing a great job.

Well, thats what I've been told.We don't understand half the good work she is doing..so I'm told.Read her new website and read of her achievements.Stop moaning..being your MP is hard work..you just don't understand!

Jim Lawes ● 7402d49 Comments ● 7398d

House prices

Just browsing through property sites for the Brentford/Kew area, and happened on a house for sale in Bushwood Road, Kew - since withdrawn (sold, possibly?) - at a price of £750,000.00!Back in the early 1930s, we lived in a rented house in Bushwood Road - No. 74; the landlord offered it to my Dad at a purchase price of £750.00!   Dad worked for London Transport at Gunnersbury - there was no way he could afford to purchase a shed, let alone a house, hence our move to Chiswick.   £750.00 to £750,000.00 ....... wow!

Ann S. Allridge ● 7417d7 Comments ● 7399d

3 cheers for Auntie?

How do we feel about the Beeb's decision to show "Jerry Springer the Opera" tomorrow in spite of all the complaints and protests? Personally I don't see how you can complain if you are only going by what other people are saying and have no personal knowledge, if we were all to take to the streets protesting everytime the BBC (or any other channel for that matter)broadcast something someone didn't approve of there'd be a permanent camp outside the TV centre.

Vanessa Smith ● 7413d87 Comments ● 7399d

Bank Holiday in Chiswick?

Just checking various sites, and find that moments ago Chiswick Forum was boasting 102 members visiting the site, and over 100 postings already today.Brentford/Ealing/Acton/Putney, have the citizens of Chiswick some benefit not enjoyed by the rest of you?(Annie:  Back to the trench quickly......)!

Ann S. Allridge ● 7399d8 Comments ● 7399d

Robbery at knifepoint near Osterley Station 4th Jan 05

How can three black males (so called "friends" or members of a gang)be proud of their performance in mugging a lone Indian pedestrian.Its totally dispicable.What a worrying quality of life these types of human beings are creating for the rest of us. Why should I have to think twice before walking down a Borough of Hounslow road in the late evening.My problem is that I would be so angry...rather than be scared..and that I would complain and fight...and probably lose my life.If we need more prisons because they are overflowing with 75,000 inmates...well let's build more. Trouble is 75,000 are in prison...but another 75,000 rogues are still on the streets uncaught.

Jim Lawes ● 7404d7 Comments ● 7399d

Pulling up the ladder?

What do you make of the new regulations that will stop "incomers" from buying homes in National Parks and areas of outstanding beauty? I can understand the local people getting the hump over people buying second homes in rural areas which they use rarely and which helps to push prices up and then makes buying a no no for local youngsters. But I do think the blatant discrimination (which the authorities admit quite cheerfully) to prevent anyone who isn't local from buying a home is very worrying, I see other rural areas are also looking at this policy. How would it be if we all said unless you're born in London (or even just Isleworth) bog off? Those of us with older offspring know the awful housing problems they face with house prices being what they are, but I can't help thinking this sort of thing really isn't the answer.

Vanessa Smith ● 7401d2 Comments ● 7399d

Ireland makes the switch to metric speed limits

Will they now start driving on the wrong side of the road, too?  ;-)How is it going Ann?

Sarah Felstead ● 7401d1 Comments ● 7400d

Boston Manor Road.....the link to Hanwell

The forthcoming Farmers Market reminds me of last years thread when we drew attention to the charms of Boston Manor Road.Wondering from Half-Acre on the right hand side..past the Whelk Stall ..the COBBLES..the view of St Pauls...the Police Station and Cells and towerblock...the Free Church with the memorials in front..the new Church Hall(where Isleworth and Brentford area meeting are held)..the flats with the window boxes..and then the Library and Inverness Club.I went to the Library and then didn't get out of the Inverness Club.Thats where we met after the last Farmers Market. There still a long way to go..up Boston Manor Road..but we can do it one day...and draw attention to more of the intersting things on that long long Road.So meandering around the fairly new Ealing Community Website tonight.. I stumbled across an interesting "OLD HANWELL" website....and click around to find the following picture....the old Hanwell to Brentford Tram.   http://www.ealing-web.com/tram_to_brentford.jpg

Jim Lawes ● 7402d2 Comments ● 7400d

DUM DUM OULDS

Having seen how volatile Cllr Oulds is in the Hounslow Council Chamber he would be the last person I would allow a gun too. Having had a loaded gun held to my head in an attempted robbery and seen the effects of gun crime on the streets of Manchester. Is it any wonder how guns get into the wrong hands the irresponsible storage of guns and bravado of those who want to be Mini Rambo’s with a Licence, I would have to say a lot more questions need to be asked about just how legal these guns are, how they are being stored, irresponsible ownership is how a lot of guns get onto our streets. I think this a bit more than a Prince Harry mistake. The idea that Cllr Oulds wants people to be able to use any means necessary to protect property is looking a bit extreme, as for letting us all know how his youngster is shown how to fire the AK47 is bit much, has he not seen Bowling for Columbine, may be this is anti-gun lobby propaganda in his eye .Or is all this just innocent fun and he was working with the anti EU Bruge Group with his friends in high places to have a coup in the civic centre.  Anyone know where you can get helicopter.

David Hughes ● 7401d9 Comments ● 7400d

Brentford High Street closed this afternoon: another accident?

Seeing a 267 bus ..with passengers..on the Great West Road this afternoon raised my eyebrows.  It had come up Boston Manor Road, turned left at the Great West Road...and then did the "U" turn infront of the Glaxo building and proceeded towards Ealing Road. I guessed something must have happened on the High Street.About an hour later...travelling from Kew Bridge westerly ...all traffic was diverted up Ealing Road from the Watermans Art Centre. A Community Policeman confirmed to me that there had been another accident in the area. So that may explain any delays you may have heard about.

Jim Lawes ● 7409d13 Comments ● 7400d

Chiswick Tory caught posing with Guns

Chiswick Tory Cllr. Robert Oulds has been photographed posing with dangerous weapons at a Tory Party members house in Chiswick..Article is on Page 15 of The Sun 19th Jan 05Should he resign as a councillor?http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005030393,00.html

Alan Sheerins ● 7402d15 Comments ● 7400d

a big thank you to councellor andrews

i would like to send a big thank you to councellor phil andrews who has helped me to do this charity head shave on january 26th for grt ormand st.when i told him what i wanted to do he got right behind it.he drew up sponser forms and posters for me and even got me a venue.councellor andrews just doesnt support his local residents in his ward he treats them as friends.i wish there were more people like him in goverment.phil a BIG THANK YOU for beeing there for me these past few difficult months you are a true friend

Simon Anderson ● 7400d2 Comments ● 7400d

70 messages posted on this Forum Wednesday!

As many of you may go to bed early...or have better things to do at the end of the day..I thought I'd let you know that 70 messages have been posted today.This figure crawls along the bottom of the screen as you know..but you may never see the total.Amazingly Chiswick W4 Forum hit 200 !!

Jim Lawes ● 7401d0 Comments ● 7401d

Chiswick's own "Schwarzenegger"?

I have been told that Cllr. Oulds is to be seen in all his glory posing with various firearms in today's "Sun" and as result has been suspended from the Tory party, also placing his PPC for Slough in peril! Who'd have thought it - from Chiswick? whatever next? Hasta la vista baby!!!!

Vanessa Smith ● 7402d5 Comments ● 7401d

http://www.hanwell.org.uk/          for local history fans

I have stumbled across a local website for Hanwell (north of Brentford and at the west of Ealing)The sections on history of the area are very intersting with accompanying images.  Old Trams, Trumpters Way old railway stop off, Brunel's three Bridges and more.Its an area of much Victorian interest....there's even an industrial estate off of Boston Manor Road...full of cobbles.So: just in case someone's interested.

Jim Lawes ● 7402d2 Comments ● 7402d

'Youngsters' smoking

Is it me or do the anti smoking campaigns fail to reach out to the kids starting on their first cigarettes?  I keep tripping across groups of under 16's, huddled together (peer pressure) in the middle of a cloud of smoke...

Sarah Felstead ● 7473d11 Comments ● 7402d

Isleworth and Brentford Area Committee (Planning) meeting 13.1.2005

There is an item on the agenda for The White Lodge Club, Syon Lane Isleworth.  Those of you who aren’t familiar with the ‘lodge’ will probably recognise it better as the land which spans the Conquest Club grounds in Wood Lane through to the scruffy entrance (which normally has old balloons hanging around it) on Syon Lane.It is a beautiful piece of undeveloped land left at that end of Isleworth.  It is also a scruffy and unkempt edged, piece of land which requires environmental (supportively) driven tidying up having been allowed to fall into this unmanaged state of repair over the years, to the detriment of the local residents and the area as a whole.It is also part of the original land of Wyke House grounds and has historical interest (maybe archaeological?) as well as having ancient hedgerows and old woodland which have been neglected and damaged.Who is responsible for maintaining and replanting the gaps in ancient hedgerows – and copses of trees - of which there are few left in the Borough?  Can you just take out bits of ancient hedgerows because they are now in the way of modern development of the land?  What is happening to the wildlife using these pieces of land?No mention of the old ‘hedgerows’ appears to be included in the application, and worryingly there is mention about fencing the boundary – so would that include taking away more?The ariel map I have of the land (albeit a Getmapping book) shows a large wood land near to where the new building is proposed.  How can a new entrance to the site be opened without knocking down trees.Do they own the whole site up to road, to allow them access onto the road, or are they asking the Council to knock down trees which are on common or Council land to give them their access?I understand that there was an environmental survey (from the air?) in recent years to show copses and hedgerows to ensue they are preserved.  Would an environmental report give this information?Is a check made that clearance of trees has not gone on to prepare land such as this in advance of making a planning application?Why are these pieces of land in Osterley not protected from the removal of trees and ancient hedgerows? and more importantly why is there not an agreed maintenance program in place to ensure their continued life and that of the wildlife which would be dependant on the hedgerow for survival in the area?The golf club and garden centre on Windmill Lane appear to have been chopping down the ancient hedgerows and the trees and making bonfires of the lot for the past couple of years.  I thought there were protection laws for ancient hedgerows and the hedges?  Or is that only in the countryside and not here in Hounslow?  The land opposite Osterley park and next to the pub has been completely altered yet I thought one of the main concerns for land such as this, is that it is not altered?Removing trees from an old copse against Syon Lane will alter the land and the road and the lead up to the other open land beyond.  It is delightful driving along this stretch of the road with a canopy of trees and this should be acknowledged!  I particularly love driving passed this line of trees with the dappled shade, in the summer.   What plans of land management have been laid by the owners of the Land such as this in the Osterley area?  These owners are caretakers of the land, for the future of the area, surely?  Do they have any responsibilities towards the Land for Life maintenance of it?  Is it being cleared with a long term view that all this land could be prime development for housing? And consequently treated as such?Some of the comments in this report appear to be leading and do not appear to be independent.  Is this the role of the report writer?One comment is about the H28 bus service and states it is 'not very regular'.  I thought the H28 was a hard won bus route - won with support of Councillors to improve transport links to the area, and that it IS a regular service!If the Councillor considering the application is familiar with the history of the land, this may not be a problem, but for others surely it forms a misleading impression?  For example – “Although the vehicular access to the site is possible from both Wood Lane and Syon Lane, the Wood Lane entrance has been blocked for some time.”I understood it was blocked to suit the owners?  It wasn’t very tidily blocked, and for some time the access has been for a company to use the car park to keep a fleet of cars there, so it can be opened by choice at any time?  Maybe I am wrong?  What does ‘blocked mean’  how relevant is it to the application?Will it be fully closed with trees and reinstatement of the hedgerow in keeping with the area, to extend the boundary back into its proper place and leave only a pedestrian access?  Or will it mean they can split the land again and sell off this bit with vehicle access and a plot of land for building on, because it has previously had a building on it?Should we be grateful that as the hedgerow has been damaged and not preserved and is now in a poor state of repair, that the owner of the land is now prepared to remove the rest and put in a fence which would 'look' nicer? ... !Since writing the above paragraph I have passed the Conquest club buildings at 6.30pm tonight – the entrance is fully open, the lights are on and there are people inside!  Hardly unused!If it is dilapidated – surely that is down to the owners and not a consideration for the Council to feel they should use for pulling it down?  If the buildings are not as well insulated as a brick modern building – maybe the original planning permission was granted on the basis that the building should be in the form of a light weight pavilion?  Has anyone dug out the original planning application?Can there be an environmental report and a historical report requested to establish the state of the land from these perspectives? Can the Borough decide about the preservation of trees and hedgerows in the Osterley area and work with the owners of the land to ensure they undertake their responsibilities for maintenance and replanting - having purchased land such as this?

Sarah Felstead ● 7408d5 Comments ● 7402d

Bar and Pub Recommendations in Brentford

Having tried and greatly enjoyed a drink or two at the Fire Station a few times now, we were looking for other pubs/bars to try in the area and similarly for good restaurants. Taste is varied so all recommendations would be very welcome.

Ilika Shelley ● 7408d9 Comments ● 7402d

Burns Night Supper

Can anybody tell me of a venue in West London that is holding a Burns Night supper and dance.

Linda F Wright ● 7418d19 Comments ● 7402d

Top night of rock in Brentford - LIONSHEART & STATETROOPER

LIONSHEART + STATETROOPERSaturday 22nd January 2005 at Stripes Bar, Brentford FC, Braemar Road, Brentford   A double headliner and a classic night of rock awaits! LIONSHEART are fronted by the powerful vocals of Steve Grimett (ex-ONSLAUGHT/GRIM REAPER) and will be performing a set of LIONSHEART and GRIM REAPER songs.   STATETROOPER recently reformed after calling it a day in the late 80’s. They are fronted by the vocal talents of Gary Barden (ex-MSG and now also in SILVER) and the reformed line-up includes original members Jeff Summers and Bruce Bisland (who is also the SWEET’s drummer) plus bassist Tony O’Hara (also a member of the SWEET and previously PRAYING MANTIS). www.lionsheart.comwww.statetrooper.co.uk £8 entryDoors: 8pmMusic: 8.30-11pm ++++Stripes Bar, Brentford FC, Braemar Rd, Brentford:Nearest Train: Brentford (5 mins)Tube: South Ealing (10 mins)Buses: E2, E8, 65, 237, 267++++Reserve tickets - music@beesunited.org.ukTel: 07952 378271More details and Stripes gig news at –www.beesunited.org.uk/stripeswww.ents24.comwww.getreadytorock.com

Jason Ritchie ● 7413d1 Comments ● 7403d

PCG meeting tonight Jim?

Police Community Consultative Group meeting tonight,7pm, civic centre.Just thought I'd see if Jim was going....? Quite fancied a partner in stale sarnie snaffling.

Sally Henfield ● 7404d7 Comments ● 7403d

Rubbish/Recycling Collections

I think I must be confused does anyone have the answer?  I knew that the collection days for recycling and refuse were all over the place because of the Christmas and New Year breaks but this is my second week back at work and I had assumed that these collections would be back to normal this week.  I believed that the recycling was normally collected on Tuesday and rubbish on Wednesday but today is Thursday and both my recycling box and my rubbish are still parked up outside my home uncollected.  Judging by the amount of boxes and rubbish bags I have seen outside peoples houses in the area over the last few days I don't think I can be the only one who is confused.

Bernadette Paul ● 7408d16 Comments ● 7403d

Renovation of 1/2 mile long 200 year old wall continues..

Dedicated craftsmen have been working diligently along the wall surrounding Osterley Park...giving it a deserved refurbishment.Bricks had become loose or were missing...and brushing and repointing was obviously necessary.As funding became available..another stretch of wall was tackled..Now the craftsmen have completed a long stretch from the Main Gate eastwards along Jersey Raod  and soon will be at the Ridgeway Road North Junction.So if you want to see the 200 year old "Georgian?" wall before it's total repair..drive or walk by soon!

Jim Lawes ● 7403d1 Comments ● 7403d

Does Mrs Keen keep us informed?  Parliamentary enquiry into diabetes

I've just stumbled across an article on the Putney website..about a Parliamentary enquiry into Diabetic experiences..and inviting sufferers to participate.I am diabetic...and I was just wondering whether Mrs Keen...with her nursing and clinical interests ..at Westminster and Covent Garden would have learned about this and perhaps published some information either on these website..or in the local Press... or even dropped me a line!! Maybe she has???Maybe she is preoccupied with other matters...but I was just wondering if she might have had a BLOG type website where such matters could be publicised."The Hansard Society is invaluable; the place where parliamentary democracy thinks for itself" – Andrew Marr, Political Editor, BBC Diabetes Dialogue @ Tell ParliamentThursday, December 9, 2004The Hansard Society, the All-Party Group (APPG) for Diabetes and sanofi-aventis have launched a timely inquiry into the management of people living with diabetes in the UK, called Diabetes Dialogue. It will start on Wednesday 8 December and run for six weeks until Friday 28 January 2005. To visit the consultation website click here.Why?The Hansard Society has been commissioned by the APPG to run an online consultation to gather evidence beyond official statistics, and widen the pool of people involved in the consultation process.We want to hear from youParticipants in the consultation will include people with diabetes, Parliamentarians, local government officials, health professionals, NHS managers, doctors, patient groups and general members of the public. This will be an informed, deliberative discussion that will be moderated by an independent facilitator at the Hansard Society. At the end of the consultation the Hansard Society will present a summary report to the All-Party Group and disseminate the findings to the media, interested parties and participants themselves.Please help us disseminate information about this consultation to your contacts – feel free to pass this information onto any work colleagues, friends or anyone else with an interest in this area. We are determined to make this consultation as wide-reaching and successful as possible to engage with people beyond the ‘usual suspects’, but we need your help to do this. The consultation is divided into the following topics:Hitting the Targets Empowering all people Service Delivery What’s your story? How to be involvedTo find out more and register to take part in this consultation click hereOnce you have filled in a few quick questions, you will be able to tell us, and others, what you.......

Jim Lawes ● 7405d3 Comments ● 7403d

What activities are available for the Teens in the area?

There is a lot around for the younger children but what is available for the teens?  What do they do? Where do they go?  Which sports are available for them to try out?  I am thinking ahead to the coming months and Summer holidays.

Sarah Felstead ● 7406d1 Comments ● 7404d

Plea to BrentfordTW8 posters.

This is a plea for help, especially to those nice BrentfordTW8 users who live near the Ealing/Brentford borders; or to all of you, for that matter, wherever you reside in sunny Brentford. Please visit the EalingToday web site, if you have time and join in the traffic there. Its a fairly new site and has only been publicized fairly recently and its finding difficulty in expanding. Its not used that much and I for one would like to see it grow like BrentfordTW8 has grown in the last year into a vibrant, entertaining and useful site. You see, I'm an intruder into Brentford as I don't live there, but reside in sunny Ealing and EalingToday is my "local" as it were. All it needs is a bit of a "kick start" into action and some interesting postings from my good friends in Brentford would give us a chance to expand - we need to just get over that critical inertia threshold and we'll be well away. So please, you good burghers of Brentford, give us a friendly push start! Thanks. ;-)    

Gerry Tan ● 7404d4 Comments ● 7404d

Russian Winter Festival in London

Eagerly awaiting any reports on the festival...who went?I see Sarah popped over to Vyborg to take down the string of Christmas lights!

Ann S. Allridge ● 7405d9 Comments ● 7404d

www.beeswalk.com

5 Brentford fans are walking from Brentford Football Club to Hartlepool United Football Club from February 11th to 22nd, to raise funds for the supporters' trust, Bees United, and the Helen Rollason Cancer Care Centre Appeal.I'm one of the walkers and would like to invite you all to visit the above website to find out more about our event with the hope that you'll agree to sponsor us.Many thanks for your time!John D.

John Dempsey ● 7405d3 Comments ● 7405d

The Berlin Srawl

Sarah have you seen page five of BC&IT?Looks like were in the news again, and its all Jim's Fault

Paul Allen ● 7406d7 Comments ● 7405d

Chiswick Forum "The New Black"

Vyborg "travellers" please note the dreaded RB has been mentioned today at 20:19:00 - DB too!Background music: a mix of the "Jaws" and "Dr. Who" themes.......

Ann S. Allridge ● 7406d3 Comments ● 7405d

Has Ann been blown away by the Celtic Gales?  Vyborg calling:

With 100 gales blowing in from the Atlantic, I have been concerned about my Eire and Hebridean friends and relations.The Hebrides have phoned to say that the winds have eased off, electricity has returned to the household, there's now heating and hot water..but the School is still closed.  Wind debris is scattered round the croft. The Western Isles are in mourning for the family who lost their lives.Any news from the west of Ireland. Ann is missed.

Jim Lawes ● 7407d8 Comments ● 7405d

Our Ann again

Did anyone see the Evening Standards league table in last nights edition which showed that our Ann came about 67th out of i think 71 MP`s in the London and close surrounding areas for providing value for money for us?The table was calculated using voting attendance,the times spoken in the commons and the best ones,expense claims and responses to her constituents!!

Paul Fisher ● 7409d1 Comments ● 7405d

TW8 Moderator achieves fame

I attended a marathon session by the London Rivers Association at Guildhall yesterday. Numerous speakers, one being Mark Lloyd of Thames 21, speaking on the work being done to clean up the waterways of London.He had prepared an illustrated presentation with numerous photographs to show the more significant achievements of the past year. I nearly jumped out of my chair like an over eager schoolboy, to shout "I know that man!" when one of the pages came up on the screen. There in prominent position was a man in a pork-pie hat, proudly clutching a washbasin to his chest.I'm still nagging them to organise another Brentford clean up.

Nigel Moore ● 7409d4 Comments ● 7406d

Sunday morning: 4.55am...first noisy Jumbo flies over

I often stay up late at night....I enjoy the peace and quiet ,listening to the radio and doing the newspaper puzzles.Its Sunday morning...not even 5am...and the tranquility is disturbed.Do those airline pilots have any sense of embarrassment causing all that row at such an early hour.   Its now 5.04am. Here comes another one!They're taking the mickey.Shut up Jim....its important for our economy.Its 5.06am...another one...and he's louder...sounds as if he's revving up.   Mrs Keen: are you there?  What do you think?  Will you reply to me on this Forum?

Jim Lawes ● 7412d18 Comments ● 7406d

A response of sorts from Ann Keens office

After nearly 10 weeks and countless emails to Ann Keen asking her to justify her expenses in particular her Covent Garden flat,i have recieved a rather curt response from her secretary directing me to her website if i want an answer.It would have helped a little if she had given me her website address instead of her email address but i suppose i am getting closer to an answer!Dear Paul Thank you for your emails regarding Ann Keen MP's expenses. Ann Keen alongside a number of Labour MP's voted for further transparency with regard to MP's expenses and she has clearly outlined the details ion her web site if you require further information. This can be accessed at: annkeenmp@parliament.uk If you go to the section entitled "The Lobby " and then FAQ. Thanks Yours sincerely Anita Ralli Assistant to Ann Keen MP 0207 219 2512 I have responded my email as follows.Dear Anita, Thank you for replying at last but I am still disappointed my MP has not answered my question herself.I have of courseread her website in the past which incidentally you have directed me to her email address and it in no way clearly outlines the details of how much she actually claims.All I am asking is why she feels the need to fleece us for her Covent Garden pad when a few black cabs home on theoccasions she has to work late would be so much cheaper.I understand that your position is paid out of her other expenses and posing the question to her may be difficult for youbut please understand my frustration that after 10 weeks since my original enquiry I am still none the wiser.Would you please ask her to justify all her expenses once and for all? Yours sincerely Paul Fisher

Paul Fisher ● 7408d8 Comments ● 7407d

Great Carpenter

After living with a shoddily built larder and no cupboards in the lounge, we had Steve Abrey build a fantastic larder in our kitchen and floor to ceiling built in cupboards in the lounge. He also built us an extra large rabbit hutch for our bunnies (not his usual line of work!).He is tidy, friendly and very reasonably priced and we are very happy to recommend him. He came out to quote and spent time talking us through the options and various costs.He can be contacted at s.abrey@btopenworld.com.It is so nice to work with such a friendly, helpful, tidy person!Ilika

Ilika Shelley ● 7417d6 Comments ● 7408d

A strange computer question?

When i post something on here at work i do not need to log in but at home i do.Any ideas what i am doing wrong?I expect its something very very simple but i cannot work it out!

Paul Fisher ● 7409d1 Comments ● 7408d

Shall we make today a good news day?

The moving line across the bottom of the page says Missing boy found safe and well in Brentford.

Sarah Felstead ● 7409d6 Comments ● 7409d

Global Warming and Flooding in Brentford.

I'm beginning to get worried about this global warming and consequent flooding. Not that I understand much of what I hear and read about climate change, but I believe if we(the world) don't do much about carbon dioxide emissions(whatever that is) in the next 20-30 years, the sea levels are going to rise such that many coastal settlements will be flooded. Indeed, I'm told that the rise in sea levels has been going on for some time already! Does this mean that the tides at Brentford are getting ever higher and that Chiswick, Isleworth and Kew will become soggy wetlands?Do I need to worry about global flooding? Or should I dismiss the possible problem, because I've exceeded three score years and ten? What d'ya think?  :-o

Gerry Tan ● 7410d6 Comments ● 7409d

need washer / vacuum in or around brentford

hello,i've just recently moved to a flat in brentford, which unfortunately doesn't include a washer.  does anyone know of any second-hand appliciance shops in / around brentford where i could pick one up for relatively cheap?  i suppose anywhere in west london would be fine, but i've got a little ford fiesta and i worry that it'd crumble with a washer in the back.  :)  delivery, although not completely essential, would make me and my car's life a lot easier!i also need a vacuum (preferably used), if anyone has any suggestions.thank you!!-matt

Matt Thompson ● 7418d8 Comments ● 7409d

Censorship

CensorshipI started this thread because some of the views on censorship in the cheers for Auntie Thread.I must of had my head in the sand all these years that Rap artists have been pushing what they would like you to think is music.I was converting a CD to MP3 for one of my Granddaughters and I can honestly say I sat though 60 Minuets of utter filth, its just not swear words you have to put up with but descriptions of unnatural acts that no 13 or 14 year should even know about.I think most of the time adults are unaware of what’s said because its spoken in today’s speak, in fact my Granddaughter translated some of it for me!Now my first reaction was to through the lot in the dustbin or not convert any more over to MP3, but then you turn on the radio or TV and it’s all there as well.How can we as adults, stop them from hearing such filth if its push at them 24/7 by most commercial stations.

Paul Allen ● 7410d9 Comments ● 7409d

I feel miserable today!

Its raining. The refuse collectors of Ealing have taken our rubbish and scattered lots of it in our front drive. The world news is sooo depressing. And I lost both sets at tennis this am. And to cap it all, my dandruff refuses to abate!Would someone post something to cheer me up please. In the meantime, he's a song which I hope brings a smile to everyone feeling the same way as me today - and for Brentford's Mayor too:"When you’re smiling, when you’re smiling,The whole world smiles with you;When you’re laughing, when you’re laughing,The sun comes shining through;But when you’re crying you bring on the rain,So stop your sighing, be happy again;Keep on smiling, ‘cause when you’re smiling,The whole world smiles with you."There, I feel a bit better for that!  ;-)

Gerry Tan ● 7411d14 Comments ● 7410d

Front page - police car chase

His name is SIMON-ANTHONY BOWLES and he would not have been 'fleeing from the police'.  He might have been trying to get out of their way.

Sarah Felstead ● 7416d7 Comments ● 7410d

Burglaries - Northumberland Estate and Redesdale Gardens

There have been a number of recent burglaries around the Northumberland Estate and Redesdale Gardens Suspects have either stolen bikes from garages, or broken into the house by forcing open front / rear doors, then taken jewellery and a passportIn one case two black youths in their late teens wearing black hooded tops were spotted entering an insecure garage and removing a cycle We advise you to be vigilant, check that your sheds & garages are secure & avoid storing valuables in these areasFor advice about improving security, please call our Crime Prevention Office on 8247 6423 If you have any information about people committing these crimes, we would like to hear form you - please call the Ringmaster Office on 8247 6443

Brentford Police ● 7414d11 Comments ● 7410d

This is one of the main reasons I detest wars of any kind

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htmAlthough the soldiers involved are back home with their families I think there are many, many more like this, than have actually been killed in action.I feel I should warn you that the wounds are quite horrific so please don't click on this URL if you have a weak stomach.As this is real life I don't think I've broken any of the guide lines I hope.

Angus James ● 7413d19 Comments ● 7410d

The Bees, Brentford F.C.

Luton 0 - Brentford 2................Congrats to all!

Ann S. Allridge ● 7412d10 Comments ● 7410d

Mrs Keen..our MP and the local Labour Party

So: Hounslow Labour Party have a website...But Brentford Isleworth (and Chiswick) Labour Party seemingly don't.Confusingly, Ann Keen is referred to as the MP for Brentford and Isleworth...but she covers Chiswick too.I'm still learning the ropes.THE HLP website includes the following extract about Mrs Keen.   Her commucations with Chiswick residents regarding Police Matters seem misty. "ANN is currently working with local police to assist in recruitment and retention of police officers. The good news is that more recruits than ever before are coming forward to join the Metropolitan Police and we have more police and community safety officers than ever before on Hounslow’s streets.  This is impacting positively on crime in Hounslow.Ann meets frequently with local organisations and has supported and assisted many  individuals through her advice surgeries. Through meeting you, she knows that although much has been done there is a lot more to do.To contact Ann and her Parliamentary Team, write to her at the House of Commons, Westminster London SW1A 0AA or go to her website at “www.AnnKeenMP.org.uk”xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxMust check that website again. Does it list her current and future engagements? Perhaps the Press are aware. But how about me? (!)xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI've noticed that our good friend Gerry is highlighting on the Ealing Forum...that the Ealing Labour MP...seems to be invisible too. No website etc etc.  Does that mean some 150,000 residents in Southall, Ealing,Chiswick, brentford and Isleworth are being kept at arm's length from their respective MP's?xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Jim Lawes ● 7468d50 Comments ● 7411d

Compulsory recycling

Given that several BrentfordTW8 correspondents have voiced their concerns over the effectiveness of the door-to-door recycling scheme run by Hounslow council was Barnet council right to threatened to fine residents up to £1,000 if they failed to recycle household waste?

Gareth Evans ● 7414d9 Comments ● 7412d

Gordon Brown assembles team to take top jobs at No 10

Through her website at http://www.annkeenmp.org.uk/home/, Ann Keen advises us that she works with the Chancellor, Gordon Brown as his Parliamentary Private Secretary on debt relief. She does get paid an additional amount for being a Parliamentary Private SecretaryFriday’s Evening Standard featured a full page on key members of staff who have apparently been assembled to take on top jobs if Gordon Brown becomes Prime Minister. The likes of Ed Millibrand, Sue Nye, Gus O’Donnell, Spencer Livermore, Jon Cunliffe, Michael Ellam, Damian McBride, Beth Russel and Ian Austin were featured with mini biographies but no mention was made of Ann Keen. What a delectable thought. 

Gareth Evans ● 7412d2 Comments ● 7412d

local pollution

Is there a local paper reporter intersted in a local pollution problem in the Borough of Hounslow.If so contact me via this forum.Thanks

Paul Allen ● 7418d5 Comments ● 7412d

Smell of Kerosene in Isleworth

A few times over the past year or so I have become aware of a strong smell of aircraft fuel (kerosene) in the air in Isleworth. This is on the London road and sometimes in our garden in St John's Road. I'm not sure whether this isn't just the wind carrying the smell from Heathrow airport, or maybe some other cause, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has smelt it and has any ideas where it might come from.

Julian Joyce ● 7417d11 Comments ● 7413d

Lawsey escapes from the Wardrobe..& is back in town!

I never thought I'd get away from those windy islands...the Outer Hebrides...a hundred haggis's off the UK mainland!Those twenty plus thousand residents living on the Isle of Lewis are very brave living through the winter in such wild weather. The curtains of rain,hail,and snow were a sight to be ....umm....not wished on anyone!!  Nontheless,over Xmas and New Year, your hardcore correspondent survived it all...even though he found himself allocated a caravan on the beach...as accommodation at the family home was overflowing!! The wind was so noisy and gusting one was reminded of life at the base camp on Mt Everest!Socially and gastromonically the holiday was all very pleasant and it was a joy to spend time with my daughter and her husband Murdo Stal Macleod MacDonald (a typical name up there!)and their three children...and his other relations and friends nearby....at Upper Coll!! near Back..on the east coast.Departing Stornaway by ferry I left behind islanders alarmed at the 2005-2006-2007  prospect of  about the 300 windmills  being erected on their skyline (each with 400 foot width propellors!)No Community Forums up there...not even Broadband yet...so little opportunity for them to stir the porridge!..Back on the mainland at Ullapool,where the Shell Garage Cashier has a fabulous view of Loch Broom, the lonesome road takes one to Inverness..now a City...and then 600 miles to London via Aviemore (snow blizzard), Perth, and then south..to Sunny Brentford!So, Happy New Year to everyone.  Lets hope that our wonderful cyberspace friendships continue and that everyone feels and knows that their own keyboard activities are much valued.

Jim Lawes ● 7414d6 Comments ● 7413d

River/stream under Griffin Park??

Does anyone know if there is any truth in the rumour of a river/stream/brook that runs under Griffin Park?? I know the site was once an orchard owned by Fuller smith and Turner,was there a waterway to irrigate the orchard? Perhaps nearby BROOK ROAD ? has something to do with it? I have read the book,LOST RIVERS OF LONDON,but no mention of any waterway under Griffin Park,can anyone shed any light? Thanks,Bill.

Bill Drinkwater ● 7431d19 Comments ● 7414d

What about those fireworks?f

Happy New Year to All tw8ers, and weren't the fireworks in London fabulous? For once Sydney - eat your heart out!

Vanessa Smith ● 7420d22 Comments ● 7414d

Antique doorknobs and sash locks

Hi all,Just a note to let Brentford know that I am local & selling antique knobs and locks suitable for renovation projects. My web address is:     www.vintagehardware.co.ukThanks, and a great 2005 to all.

Ian Silver ● 7414d0 Comments ● 7414d

Dates for your Diary

I was looking up twelth night - to take down the decorations and found this lovely web site of 'Unusual Folklore Customs and Ceremonies' set up by a school in Kent.http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/curious/calendar.htm#janTwelfth Night, 6th January Baddeley Cake, Drury Lane Theatre, London - On Twelfth Night the cast of the current play eat cake and drink wine in memory of an actor from the 18th Century who bequeathed money to the theatre's hardship fund. 10/11 JanuaryFireball-Whirling Ceremony, Stonehaven, ScotlandOn the night of the Old New Year's Eve, young men whirl balls of burning rope around their heads.Haxey Hood Game, Haxey, Lincolnshire - 13th century.THE HAXEY HOOD is a bizarre ritual carried out each Twelfth Night (Old Style Christmas Day) in the village of Haxey in Lincolnshire,near the Nottinghamshire border. According to legend it was on Twelfth Night that the wife of sir John de Mowbray was riding on horseback across the fields near Haxey on the Isle of Axholme , when a sudden gust of wind blew her large black silk hood. Thirteen Labourers in a nearby field gave a chase to rescue it, vying with one another to return its graceful owner . She was so grateful that she donated a piece of land on Westwood hill, just outside the village, for an annual enactment of the gallant recovery of her hood.At 2 p.m. the church bells are rung and down the street in procession comes the "Lord" and his eleven "Boggins" together with the "Fool". The "Lord" wears a red coat and top hat covered with flowers and he carries a stick made from thirteen willow wands and bound thirteen times. At the church gate the "Fool", standing on an old mounting block, makes his traditional speech of welcome to the waiting crowd.The "Lord" then leads his officials and the people to the highest ground in the parish where the "Boggins" form a large circle. He then calls on a distinguished visitor to throw the first "hood" in the air.Blessing the Plough on Old Christmas Day (Twelfth Night)This church tradition can be found across the country, notably at Chichester and Exeter on the first Sunday after 6th January. Straw Bear Festival Whittlesey, CambridgeshireFriday and Saturday before Plough Monday. At Whittlesey, on the weekend following Plough Monday (the first Monday after Twelfth Night) a straw bear is paraded around the town attended by a host of dancers and musician from all over the country. The bear is a man covered from head to foot in a straw costume.During the 19th century Straw Bears - men or boys clothed in a layer of straw - were a familiar Plough Monday . Up-Helly-AaAt the end of January in Scotland, a huge Viking longship is dragged through the town by men. They burn it on the beach. January 17 Wassailing the Apple Tree, Carhampton, Somerset, Wassailing the apple tree is one of the oldest traditions at Christmas time. Cider and cake is offered to tree feted as guardian of the orchard.

Sarah Felstead ● 7415d0 Comments ● 7415d

The wailing of the sirens....

Does anyone else get the right hump with the police driving down London rd or the A4 in the early hrs of the morning,sirens blaring out? This happens almost nightly.Surely at 3am there are not sufficient cars in front of the police to warrant this. A flashing blue light would surely be enough and the odd wail on the siren at this time...

Keith Iddon ● 7418d8 Comments ● 7416d

Saving St. George's Church

As someone who remembers when I was a child and a Girl Guide, I recall going to the church on our Girl Guides "Church Parade" on Sunday mornings. So I am very happy to hear that the church has been saved.  The old buildings should be preserved, thanks to everyone who fought to save this one.     I live in Oregon now so I am too far away to help much but had to tell you how much I appreciate the people who saved this old building.                          Doris M. Lediard

Doris M. Lediard ● 7417d2 Comments ● 7416d

Do an important thing?

What's the one most important thing we as individuals could do to make the world a better place next year?;-o

Gerry Tan ● 7420d10 Comments ● 7416d

decent workmen

who finds it difficult to hire a trustworthy, reliable workman nowadays? I did and was always a bit dubious about having strange men in my house! I was then recommended Richard the Plasterer by a neighbour and have never looked back! I have since seen his name on the Chiswick W4 site too.  He is very tidy, true to his word with his prices and is a very friendly bloke! Top class work too! Couldn't recommend him highly enough.  He can be contacted on his mobile - 07739 727 683

Mrs Lorraine Lonergan ● 7416d0 Comments ● 7416d

Kew Gardens at night

It's that time of year again and Kew Gardens are having their late evening openings. For any of you out there who havn't seen Kew in the dark they will be open late from 16-19 December (4.15 to 9pm free entry). It is a magical experience with many trees floodlit from below, and the weeping willow in front of the Palm house dripping with fairy lights reflected in the lake. This year they also have an ice rink next to the Temperate House. I went late on Saturday (not to skate!)and watched many adults & children enjoying themselves. There is a large cafe area too where you can sit & watch the skaters. It looks fantastic all lit up. (You can book hour long sessions see website www.kew.org)It would look even lovelier if we had the odd flurry of snow!      

Liz Cudmore ● 7453d3 Comments ● 7417d

Missing Dog

Has anyone seen a white jack russell type dog in Brentford over the weekend.  Shannon went missing from Ferry Square on Friday, and we are desperate to hear any news.  Did you see a white dog, with short white hair and a ginger patch on her forehead.  She barks a lot, but is not a threat.  NOrmally she would just sit outside the house, and wait for someone to let her in, so it is very strange that she has not come home.  If you have any news, or saw this dog on Friday please call me on 07931 295 235.Many thanks Louise

Louise Boulger ● 7445d2 Comments ● 7418d

Brentford Pubs

Can anyone recommend a good, friendly 'proper'pub in Brentford. I have tried a few that were not too bad but am looking for a decent local with a friendly, welcoming atmosphere.

Ian Campbell Barr ● 7435d13 Comments ● 7418d

Any good at deciphering dreams?

Picture the line of planes coming down my street - you can see the line banked up well into the distance.  Replace that with a line of those space invader alien thingies (they are all smiling incidently) and make them closer together for an invasion.  The space ships are heading for Heathrow to use the existing runways and they then take the tube to Osterley (skip the passport control and immigration bits they weren't in the dream).  Yes, this does take some considerable time and people are coming out into the street to point at the ships and discuss what is going on.  Somebody rings the Government.  The aliens take on the form of people but 'we' all know who they are and they have guns..If you come up with any strange interpretations which may confirm anything other than my being a level headed cen-sib-ell citizen then please don't respond, nobody will believe you .. anyway!Puh -leese!   ;-)

Sarah Felstead ● 7421d7 Comments ● 7419d

Gongs in BRENTFORD?

Has anyone in BRENTFORD featured in this New Year's Honours List? :-o

Gerry Tan ● 7420d4 Comments ● 7420d

New Year's RESOLUTION?

Any bright ideas anyone?I'm gonna resolve to be less grumpy and curmudgeonly. :-(

Gerry Tan ● 7422d12 Comments ● 7420d

Best thing & worst thing in 2004?

What's the best thing that has happened to you in 2004?What's the worst thing that has happened to you in 2004?Myself? - I don't know - I'm UNDECIDED.  :-o

Gerry Tan ● 7429d17 Comments ● 7420d

Alone at over ninety

http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1468842004Although it is said that old age pensioners prefer to live outside sheltered housing, who actually said this is still unknown to many people, including myself. Could someone please let me know if a poll was taken to decide this or could this be another money saving scheme by the present Government, more important, is this being wished upon the whole of the U.K.?I hope that the person or persons that committed this crime is caught and punished severely as an example to any others that might think they can get away doing the same.

Angus James ● 7424d4 Comments ● 7422d

The independence of the judiciary.

Were the Law Lords correct in comparing the detention of prisoners without trial (breaching their human rights) to the nightmare scenario of Stalin's Russia?  I firmly support the decision of the judiciary to stand up to this government's interference with people's human rights. Lord Hailsham once described Margaret Thatcher's government as an 'elected dictatorship' and he was her Lord Chancellor. Is the Blair government any better? What do you think? Should the judges do as they are told or remain free of political interference?

Ian Campbell Barr ● 7431d17 Comments ● 7424d

Ho ho ho!

Sorry this is a bit unseasonal, but it's news today and won't be shortly:---------------------------------------------------------------------From the most recent "Viewpoints" newsletter, published by members of the Labour Party in Brentford & Isleworth:"Can things get any worse for the Labour Party in Hounslow?  Membership has plummeted - except in Hounslow Central ward where multiple recruiting by men desperate to be selected as local Labour candidates have been signing up friends and family.  This familiar fiasco has led to the Constituency Party being suspended by Head Office."Our MPs are getting a lot of publicity.  'Farce of Mr. and Mrs. Expenses' says the front page of the Evening Standard.  'Husband and wife Labour MPs Alan and Ann Keen are each claiming £17,000 housing allowance despite living nine miles from Westminster.  The couple represent neighbouring seats in west London and share a house in Brentford'.  The couple, says the Standard, have not broken any rules.  Maybe not but is it very clever to use the rules so blatantly and claim a double allowance?  No wonder they can afford a second home in Covent Garden."Then there is the strange case of Ann Keen's son, Mark Lloyd-Fox, (who also lives at the home in Brentford according to the electoral register.)  He is in the property development business and was caught out making anonymous phone calls to Planning Committee Councillors.  He isn't even bright enough to make sure the calls couldn't be traced and the police got involved.  Thankfully he just received a warning on this occasion."Then there is the free skip that the Labour Deputy whip on Hounslow Council had delivered, saying it was for community use and then, it is alleged, got filled up with his own unwanted material.  The Labour Group, led by Alan Keen's employee Colin Ellar, won't investigate this and the only action taken by the Labour Group was to expel the Councillor who drew attention to the skip incident, ex-leader and mayor John Connelly, and that wasn't done in accordance with Labour Party rules so more will be heard about that."All this comes after years of dodgy practices on the Constiteuncy General Committee where a host of GMB delegates turn up once a year to vote in Ann Keen's favoured comrades and are never seen again for twelve months - unless something crops up that our MP wants fixed."Hounslow has a terrible reputation across London in Labour Party circles.  The word 'Hounslowesque' is a collective expression that stands for shadowy planning practices, domination of the Labour Council group by MPs, and just plain comical antics.  Hounslow provides the best free comedy show in London."When is something going to be done about this?  We are on course to lose at least one MP at the general election next year and control of the council the year after.  We have a suspended party, MPs whose reputations are tarnished and a Council that is the laughing stock of London.  The local party cannot do anything because it is in the iron grip of the MP.  The only hope is that those members who care about the Party write to the London Labour Party or the National Labour Party and urge them to step in before it is too late."----------------------------------------------------------------------POSTSCRIPT:  Last week the Brentford & Isleworth CLP sent out an appeal to its members, including those who are lapsed or only recently joined, urging them to volunteer to the Selection Group Panel for possible selection as local election candidates.  Desperate times call for desperate measures!Merry Christmas.

Phil Andrews ● 7427d5 Comments ● 7425d

When do we become middle aged old gits?

There is a turning point in all our lives when instead of laughing or ignoring some of lifes circumstances we start to moan and whinge about them.Poor service when attempting to spend my hard earned cash is one of my gripes and i think i stopped putting up with it about 10 years ago when i was about 30 which i guess is my cross over time but what about the others on this forum?When did you start to be looked upon as a moaning old git?

Paul Fisher ● 7430d12 Comments ● 7425d

Boxing Day

I hope you all had a great day. The weather in NSW was cold and overcast, a perfect English Christmas day. The max temp was only 19c with a chilly wind.Down to the beach today. Anyone going to see the mighty Bees win. I'll be listening on-line.

Neil Chippendale ● 7426d0 Comments ● 7426d

Happy Christmas to Matt the Editor, fellow posters and visitors

Well it has been a busy year on this Forum....and good fun too!It seems that we all have new friends and acquiantances in cyberspace!!  That has been invaluable.Thanks to Matt Harmer for putting up with us and for running the show ..behind the scenes!!So, to Ann, Michael and Neil (all abroad)...and to Gerry and all his team in the TW8 region...and to visitors from linked sites...I wish you a peaceful and Happy Christmas...and best wishes for 2005.

Jim Lawes ● 7430d8 Comments ● 7427d

Christmas Lights

I've just walked home and noticed a beautiful christmas tree in the window of one of the houses on Windmill Road, on the bit between Clifden Road and Hamilton Road. Has anyone else noticed any especially nice trees or decorations around?

Simon Foster ● 7428d1 Comments ● 7428d

Cool to be Warm...

Is anyone else sick of hearing people,mostly kids and teenagers, saying things are 'cool'. Surely,it's more altruistic, humane and 'cool'to be warm toward others and to things in general.I know I'm just being an early middle aged git on this,but it's my language too...

Keith Iddon ● 7430d3 Comments ● 7428d

Last Call

For comedy at The Waterside Cafe Bar, Brentford Dock, TONIGHT!!!!!The acts again are - Dave Ward, Steve Hall, Dylan and Glenn Wool. Tickets cost £8, £6 with concessions. To reserve please visit www.comedydock.com or call Robbie on 07801 786 046 merry christmas

Robbie Greig Smith ● 7429d0 Comments ● 7429d

What is your wish for Christmas?

Lets get some debate going....If you had a wish for Christmas what would it be?For Your part of EalingFor the Borough of EalingFor LondonFor the UKFor EuropeFor the WorldI have two, for affordable housing in London, end to nimbyism in planning and better design (I would say that as I work for a Housing Association)For the world, a recognition of, and action taken as a result of Global Warming. Stop debating the possibility, take action to reduce the potential disaster to our environment. Sorry folks but I may have to mention the 'T' word in this context.What do you think? Add your wishes to this post and lets see if we can outdo Chiswick W4 with something interesting....Iain Muir PS. This was originally posted on my local Acton W3 site but Gerry Tan who seems to visit all & sundry suggested I post it here as well, suitaby amended

Iain Muir ● 7437d13 Comments ● 7429d

Its your money, where should it be spent?

Every year we pay Council Tax. But where does our money go, who decides where our money is spent, how is it spent, and does the way in which our money is spent give us the services we want? We are approaching the time of year when Councillors will sit down and decide upon priorities for the delivery of all council services, they will be lead by the recommendations of officers of the council and these Councillors will approve or otherwise, the proposed budget based upon the current financial position of the council taking into account the future projections of the council. Councillors will also agree on the level of Council Tax for the coming year. The council also receives funding from central government in the form of grants and business rates to add to the revenue generated through Council Tax, so where do we want our money spent? The services the council provide generally fall into the categories below. Do we want to see spending levels remain the same or do we want increases in some services, or cuts in others? Community DevelopmentEducation, Arts & Libraries EnvironmentHousing ServicesSocial ServicesCorporate ServicesOur Council Tax also helps to pay for services such as ambulance, police and fire. So what do we want? Any ideas?

Gareth Evans ● 7451d41 Comments ● 7429d

RHYMING COCKNEY SLANG

Alright, so we know the APPLES 'n PEARS and the PLATES o' MEAT! Please send your other examples of rhyming slang - are there any examples relating to Brentford specifically? Thanks.;-o

Gerry Tan ● 7430d2 Comments ● 7429d

Slothful train service

Since the new timetable came in, has anyone actually been on a train which ran to schedule? Most of the trains I've taken have been delayed by 10-15 minutes, and a couple by as much as an hour. This is on top of the slower journey (not only have the fast trains gone, but the slow ones are timetabled to take 5 minutes longer than they used to), and it all makes the service even less competitive with nipping up the road to the Piccadilly line.

Bryan Betts ● 7429d1 Comments ● 7429d

Lovely language is English.

Hi folks - I've just been reading through the past topics on this site and I've been so impressed and amused by the use of language and the numerous words(some of them slang) used to describe just one thing. Here's an example: Several beautiful words have been used to describe "a stupid person" and those words have been used by Brentford posters - here they are:pillock, twerp, prat, idiot, wanker, plonker, nutter, dipstick, potty, dickhead, dunderhead, fruit and nut case, scrote, scumbag, old fart, etc etc. (guess there are many more - please add to this list, if you'd like to).As a matter of interest and fun, how many words can you think of that mean a policeman? I'll start: the bill,.......Yeh, I think English is a beautiful language! ;-o

Gerry Tan ● 7431d29 Comments ● 7430d

Gifted - 198 Brentford High Road

I would like to recommend this shop to those of you who haven't already found it - I drive over from Chiswick to shop there. Although on the high road it is a bit tucked away. It is full of great little gifts for all ages and nice smellies for around the house. A very useful place this time of year.And no, I am not connected with the shop other than a satisfied customer who appreciates good service.Happy shopping.

Angela Peel ● 7430d4 Comments ● 7430d

Do we want the OLYMPIC GAMES in London?

Lord COE seems to want our support in his bid for the Olympic Games to be staged in London. I don't know how to react to this one. Do we really need a major event in London in 2012? I'm UNDECIDED on this question. Please convince me one way or the other. :-o

Gerry Tan ● 7432d10 Comments ● 7430d

Artificial or Real Christmas trees?

I say artificial as I am not into chopping down trees (even those grown specifically for the purpose - must be a tax wheeze?). I think we are too busy chopping and knocking things down. They last longer as well.

Ian Campbell Barr ● 7430d3 Comments ● 7430d

What is your wish for Christmas?

Lets get some debate going....If you had a wish for Christmas what would it be?For BrentfordFor HounslowFor LondonFor the UKFor EuropeFor the WorldI have two, for affordable housing in London, end to nimbyism in planning and better design (I would say that as I work for a Housing Association)For the world, a recognition of, and action taken as a result of Global Warming. Stop debating the possibility, take action to reduce the potential disaster to our environment. Sorry folks but I may have to mention the 'T' word in this context.What do you think? Add your wishes to this post and lets see if we can outdo Chiswick W4 with something interesting....Iain Muir PS. This was originally posted on my local Acton W3 site but Gerry Tan who seems to visit all & sundry suggested I post it here as well, suitaby amended

Iain Muir ● 7437d31 Comments ● 7430d

The ayes and the noes for I.D. cards

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmhansrd/cm041220/debtext/41220-42.htm#41220-42_div24Did you spot anyone that voted differently to what you expected?I expected that there might have been a lot more noes especially in the Conservative Party. (Mr. Howard is trying very hard to make the Conservative Party unelectable for the next decade or two.)

Angus James ● 7430d4 Comments ● 7430d

Minister for Education

After reading some strange background stories 'promoting' the 'newly promoted' Ruth Kelly, in the Sundays, I felt compelled to ask Vanessa - if you had borrowed my three (I think you said you had 2 kiddy winks) do you think you would have beaten her to the job?Example - "Ruth Kelly holds a record by giving birth to four children while an MP but it has not stopped her rapid rise to the Cabinet table. At 36, the new education secretary is the youngest Cabinet minister by 10 years and has only been in Parliament since 1997. Her first child was born just 11 days after she took the marginal seat of Bolton West from the Conservatives and some commentators are already calling her a "super mum". Conservative MP Boris Johnson once said: "I admire the way she has managed to be a real person as well as succeeding in politics. She must be identical twins."

Sarah Felstead ● 7431d4 Comments ● 7431d

New England (Duke of York)

Does anyone know if the New England has been given a permanent late licence on Friday and Saturday nights as for the past couple of weeks it has been open late.

Simon Foster ● 7431d0 Comments ● 7431d

Christmas TV

I've just read the RadioTimes for this year's Christmas TV progs. There's very little to tempt me - the same old tired programmes. Wish they'd show more musicals and classic comedy shows. What d'yer think? ;-(

Gerry Tan ● 7437d27 Comments ● 7431d

How do I post back up a thread?

Sometimes it works and more often it doesn't!Is there a guide to posting which I have missed?

Sarah Felstead ● 7433d17 Comments ● 7432d

Christmas Market @ Chiswick Farmers & fine foods Market

The Ideal place to shop for Christmas DayChiswick Farmers & Fine foods Market is holding a special Christmas market on Wednesday 22nd December from 4pm to 8pm so that customers can buy their holiday provisions.As usual a wide selection of high quality fresh produce will be on offer including meat, game, poultry, vegetables, fruit, apple juice, home made pies and pastries, bread, olives, cheese and fish. Orders for Turkeys can be collected, to place orders ring March House farm on 01664 563919To keep out the chill mulled wine will be available and the yard will be festively lit for the occasion. Free parking in the Dukes Meadows Community Centre car parkTo get to the Market turn off the A316 At Riverside Drive and take the next left into Alexandra Gardens and follow down to Market Drive. The E3 Bus from Chiswick High Road and the 190 buse from either Hammersmith or Richmond stop close by, get off at Edensor Road or Chiswick Community School.Here's a map of the area to help find the Market Link to Area MapWishing you all a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,Paul Allen (Friends of Dukes Meadows)Fodm Registered Charity No 1090171

Paul Allen ● 7439d1 Comments ● 7433d

How to roast turkey?

Having glanced through cook books by Delia, Stein, Elizabeth David, the lovely Nigella and others, we're confused - each has a different way to cook the bird. Which IS the best way to roast our turkey this Christmas? Any favourite ideas? And how long for a 4 kilo one? ;-(  

Gerry Tan ● 7436d6 Comments ● 7433d

Brentford on Thames

How does a Town receive the -on Thames 'tag' as a part of its name?  Seems those Southerners on the Surrey bank have more than their fair share?

Sarah Felstead ● 7436d13 Comments ● 7434d

BFC Planning Application

A planning application from Brentford Football Club is to be decided upon at the next I&B Planning Committee meeting on 16th December.BFC have secured over £1M in Football Stadia Improvement Fund money to make improvements to Griffin Park that will go a long way to help the club survive until a new stadium can be found. The FSIF have stated they are unlikely to offer such a large sum in the future, basically its a now or never offer.I hope our elected representatives see that approving this planning application is a key moment in the future survival of the club, and that Brentford, without its football club will become a much poorer regardless of how many new flats you build.

Paul Davis ● 7437d20 Comments ● 7434d

GLOSSARY of IMHO etc etc

Sarah: You were right to ask for an explanation for some of the XXX's used on these Forums.I went to the Chiswick Forum...typed GLOSSARY in the Forum Search  and there is a Topic and a long list of messages and explanations. Maybe someone could do a new list and publish it on this webpage and Paul Fishers...http://www.chiswickw4.com/default.asp?section=community&link=http://nnet-server.com/server/app/forum/default.asp?site=1

Jim Lawes ● 7440d4 Comments ● 7434d

David Blunkett: Home Secretary: a top job screwed up?

The Home Secretary's job ought to be untaken without any kind of character or personal life blemishes..if that is ever possible.Home Secretary's  are top officials!!I mean, isn't he in charge of the Prison Sevice, The Police etc etc.I can just about cope with seeing Tony Blair wandering around Downing Street in jeans, following Michael Foot's historical attendance on Remembrance Day some years ago in a duffle coat...but Home Secretary's should "CORRECT" and not susceptible to any foolhardy indulgencies. What do you think? Just await the enquiry's report?

Jim Lawes ● 7450d61 Comments ● 7435d

Letter to Phil Andrews and his party

PhilI understand from  email's regards the Area Planning meeting that a male member of your party was opposed to the Brentford Football Club  scheme, outright.   Could you please expalin on this forum why yourself or Fred Muston are so opposed Brentford Football club's survival plan. I hope you understand that you and your fellow Councillors may have signed the clubs death warrent at Griffin Park.If my information is wrong I will apoligise and by you a beer when I'am over.

Neil Chippendale ● 7435d4 Comments ● 7435d

Christmas Comedy Thursday 23rd December

Please have a look at this month's acts... Tickets cost £8 / £6 with concessions. Tables can be reserved by emailing info@comedydock.com or calling Robbie on 0208 758 2517. Act One - Dylan In 2002 Dylan won the Wilkinson Sword Cutting Edge of Comedy Award at the Edinburgh Festival and also scooped the runner-up award in the BBC New Comedy Award Final, managing to beat off all but one of 2,500 entries. Act Two - Steve Hall Runner up in the BBC New Comedy Awards 2003 and Daily Telegraph open mic finalist in 2002 Steve is back, fresh from his second successful year at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. He's not the first comic to go for a wryly sarcastic, slightly supercilious approach - think of the proudly college-educated humour of Stewart Lee. Headline - Glenn Wool Glenn began his comedy career eight years ago in his home town of Vancouver. He moved to London four years ago and quickly became one of the rising stars of the London comedy circuit. His first venture as a solo artist, his one hour show Bizarre Cocktail, won him critical acclaim and has enabled Glenn to travel the world showcasing his talents: a favourite of The Edinburgh, The Kilkenny, The Melbourne, The South African and the Laugh Festival in New Zealand. "You have to go and see Glenn Wool" The Guardian " Well worth an hour of your time" The Independent " Tipped for greatness" The Telegraph "Lethally funny" Metro

Robbie Greig Smith ● 7436d2 Comments ● 7435d

Is this the best thread yet?

As they say nowadays, you must pop over and check out........http://www.chiswickw4.com/default.asp?section=community&app=forum/ShowMessage.asp?ID=96539&site=1

David Johnson ● 7435d3 Comments ● 7435d

Britain's largest books forum launches in West London

I live just down the road in Chiswick, and this week launched the largest books forum in the UK from my home, and the only one that is totally independent. It is called Book Group Online, and can be found by following this link: www.bookgrouponline.com. This forum has been constructed on the principle that it’s impossible to read a book and not have an opinion about it. Book Group Online is a place to come and discuss books to your heart’s content: to share your views and argue with those whose views differ from your own. We also want this to be a place to come when you’re wondering what to read next, and looking for recommendations. Amazingly, this is the first independent books forum to be launched in the UK, covering all the subjects you would find in any decent bookshop. There has never been a books forum covering as wide a range of subjects as Book Group Online, including different fiction genres, every non-fiction category you can think of, and a special section covering children’s books. Even on its first day, it is the largest of its kind.This is a brand new website, and I thought my fellow Chiswick residents should be among the very first people to know about it. To be honest, we’re just finishing off creating it now. You could look on it as like going on holiday to the Costa Brava and finding that the building is being completed around you – with the difference being that everything works, and that you have a say in how it’s constructed. Because ultimately, it is the first users of this site who will set the tone for future users.So please register and start posting! Click on www.bookgrouponline.com and it will take you to an opening page with simple instructions on how to register. All you have to do is choose a user name and a secret password. There is plenty of information on the forum on how to use the site.The other thing you can do is not keep the existence of Book Group Online to yourself. Spread the word! There are bound to be people you know who would enjoy this site, so we ask you please to pass on the address, email the link, whatever you can do to let others know about it. And then they too can spread the word! The more people who join and join in, the better this site will become. There’s not much point in being a pioneer if there’s nobody following you.If you haven’t finished, or even started, your Christmas shopping yet, our website contains an innovative way to do all your online purchasing at once. The site contains Top 50 charts for Fiction paperbacks and hardbacks, and Top 50 charts  for Non-Fiction paperbacks and hardbacks, plus Top 20 charts for children’s paperbacks and hardbacks. Each book has its own individual thread in chart order – go into it and you will see a description of the book, and a link that will take you straight to the correct Amazon page for that book. Thank you for your time!

Bill Matthews ● 7440d10 Comments ● 7435d

Vet recommendation for a Canary - Urgent!

I need a vet who knows about canaries!  Any recommendations?

Sarah Felstead ● 7438d12 Comments ● 7436d

Save St George's Church

Ladies and Gents:Former St George's Church (current Music Museum, just closed) 367 High Street Brentford, opposite Watermans Park.The above building is earmarked for demolition and goes before the council Sustainable Development Committee (SDC) this coming Tuesday 14th December 7:30 pm.I would urge you all to join in and object to any demolition order in the strongest terms and seek alternative uses for the church. Despite popular belief the church is NOT owned by Barratt but will transfer to them on successful planning application.This council has a somewhat poor reputation for saving heritage items but more importantly this piece of history is intended to go under the hammer for only 19 apartments - like Brentford needs another 19 apartments with all the planning and construction going on.Please either write to the SDC or attend in person. Thank you.

Stephen Browne ● 7442d28 Comments ● 7436d

The Bees v. Hinckley

Well, how about that game last night?I'm tempted to hop on a plane for the Luton match!!!!!!!Congratulations to the team and all concerned.

Ann S. Allridge ● 7437d1 Comments ● 7437d

Are we being taken for mugs?

I read a very interesting article in this weeks Brentford Chiswick and Isleworth Times about the attendance records of some our local Councillors written by our own Sally Henfield.It seems that two of the very worse offenders for actually bothering to attend meetings are the Syon Cllr Corinna Smart who has only attended 57% of her meetings but also claims an extra five thousand two hundred and fifty pounds for her extra responsibilities on top of the nine thousand two hundred and fifty two pounds which is paid out to each of our Cllrs regardless of how many meetings they can be bothered to attend.The other local Cllr is our old friend Patrick Edwards who is supposed to represent the people of Brentford but only managed to attend just 12 out the 22 meetings he was expected to.He also only sent his apologies 60% of the time.Cllr Edwards explained this as "I don't think that is bad form and I think readers will understand that council work cannot be limited to attending meetings. I prefer to meet the constituents. It is much more important to be out and about than sat bored in a committee room."and also "The constituents shouldn't be worried about my ambition or rigour - I prioritise face to face meetings with residents rather than the bureaucratic rigidity of a council meeting."Our non smiling Mayor has also attended just 57% of the meetings he was expected to and the leader of Conservatives on the Council Cllr Peter Thompson who represents Turnham Green only attended 54% of meetings he was supposed to attend.He also claims the extra five thousand two and hundred pounds!For the full story,please visit the excellent website http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/newsbct/display.var.553603.0.money_for_nothing_sham.php

Paul Fisher ● 7440d14 Comments ● 7438d

Wot! no lights?

Does anyone know why Scrooge is alive and well and residing in Hounslow. There aren't any Christmas lights in the High St. and no trees outside the Treaty Centre like there usually are. Some daft idiots left the remnants of the lights of several years ago in the trees in the High St, - but of anything this year? not a sign. Please someone tell me this isn't a manifestation of political correctness, or have the Council just cancelled Christmas?

Vanessa Smith ● 7449d25 Comments ● 7438d

Are there any ghosts in the Borough ?

Some 15 years ago a Manager at the Bultrode Pub..in Lampton Road Hounslow...near Hounslow Central Station...told me that a ghost lived on the first floor! ...often dormant..but has been know to make an appearance.Any other local creepy stories??

Jim Lawes ● 7444d19 Comments ● 7439d

Hiring a trio of musicians.

I'd like to hire a trio of musicians and I'd appreciate info on where to go to make a booking. Live background music is required for a reception - keyboard, guitarist and violin(or similar), evening for 3 hours, middle of the road popular music, venue in Ealing on a Saturday or Sunday in mid-February. I've no experience of hiring musicians - could someone give me guidance and information please and where to start my search? Perhaps there's such a trio in Brentford?? Thanks. ;-o

Gerry Tan ● 7443d7 Comments ● 7439d

Identity Cards - do we need them?

I'm an "UNDECIDED" on this question. Should we accept them or should we fight against having them? Any views on the subject please?:-o

Gerry Tan ● 7456d28 Comments ● 7439d

VYBORG shivers !!        http://www.vbg.ru/

As Ann reported the other day, snow has arrived in Vyborg.It starts getting dark at 4pm their time..(1.30pm Brentford time).Its so mild in UK..I thought it was going to be tough!

Jim Lawes ● 7455d9 Comments ● 7440d

I'm a LIAR! - Are you?

Much as it embarasses me to confess this, the truth is that I am a liar. But then so are you, and you, and you and you!Here is a list of some of the lies I've told and porkies that have been told to me over the years:"Well, it just came away in my hands, honest!""Oh you MUST come to dinner some day soon.""No honest, its in the post.""You look lovely tonight.""No no no, its just what I've ALWAYS wanted.""Oh yes darling, it was GREAT for me.""Don't worry dear, its good for the carpet."It was SO nice to see you again."Please add your lies to this list, if you want to that is!  ;-)

Gerry Tan ● 7442d9 Comments ● 7440d

"Hammersmith and Hounslow Tramways" Robt.J.Harley

Jim,You commented on this book recently, so I ordered a copy from Transport Diversions on 5th December:  my copy arrived today -  10th December!How's that for prompt delivery?  Amazon Books eat your heart out..Amazon Books take weeks; I am still awaiting one ordered in August, but to date  only loads of apologies and emails.   They have so far not delivered a book to me in earlier than eight weeks!

Ann S. Allridge ● 7441d2 Comments ● 7441d

Illegal Rave in Brentford all weekend?

Was anybody else effected by what I can only assume was an illegal rave all weekend in Brentford. I have been told by neighbours that it was held in a church/building that is empty and currently awaiting re-development. The music/base continued for two days and was incredibly annoying/disturbing. I phoned the police over the weekend who advised me to contact Hounslow Environmental services this morning who are looking into it as apparently the police have no power over such issues! Does anyone know anymore about this and what can be done as it will make living in Brentford miserable!

Clare Lidington ● 7446d12 Comments ● 7441d

Black tie dinner and dance

I have to attend a dinner and dance next Wednesday which is i have been told a black tie event.I am hoping that this does not mean i have to wear a tuxedo or similar as my wardrobe is more use to holding football shirts etc.Can one of our more discerning posters please throw some light on this please?

Paul Fisher ● 7449d15 Comments ● 7442d

The non-smiling Mayor of the London Borough of Hounslow

Three more pictures of the Mayor appear in this todays Brentford Chiswick and Isleworth Times.A stern, non smiling face appears in all three.Who elects or selects the Mayor each year?

Jim Lawes ● 7455d7 Comments ● 7442d

Cane chair repairs?

Please can anyone recommend a place in Brentford or Ealing where we could get our old cane armchairs collected and repaired? Had these old armchairs for yonks but over the years the grandchildren have gradually picked the cane bindings and they're getting a bit loose. :-(

Gerry Tan ● 7445d5 Comments ● 7442d

A happy Christmas to one and all

Hope you all have a great Christmas, see you all in March.

Neil Chippendale ● 7444d9 Comments ● 7442d

Christmas Trees

Being new to the area, where is the best place to get a natural Christmas tree.  I'm living up by Gunnersbury Park so I'm looking around the surrounding areas.....Thanks

Matt Beesley ● 7444d4 Comments ● 7442d

Coalyards near Kew Steam Museum

Is anyone old enough (like me) to remember the magnificent Clydesdales that pulled the coal carts back in the 1940s?During the 1947 blizzard, we had to collect our own coal from the yard (Dad made a sleigh, and my sister and I went with him for the coal).  For the first time ever, we were able to go into the stables to see the Clydesdales up close - towering like Mnt. Everests over their half-doors! They were housebound because of the snow. Ordering coal by phone today is no comparison to those few perishing weeks in the winter of '47, when we would make our exciting weekly forays over to Kew.

Ann S. Allridge ● 7446d30 Comments ● 7443d

The News of the World, Gordon Brown and short-sight

Report today that the Chancellor is going to "crack-down" on "shirking" civil servants because of the high levels of sickness. Never mind that they are actually less than British Airways a private company, never mind that a survey last week showed that high sickness levels are linked to low staff morale and lack of confidence in higher management. Guess where the lowest morale and the biggest lack of confidence were to be found? In the civil service, no surprise there then. What gets my goat is that no-one seems the slightest bit interested in asking WHY, well, perhaps Gordon would like to hear his job was being dumped via T.V., perhaps he would like to undergo the farcical appraisal system imposed upon the staff, perhaps he'd like to have wages so low he'd qualify for his precious tax credits, then when he's asked himself that perhaps he'd then reflect upon whether or not he'd put his health before his crap employer. No-one condones people taking the mickey and if people are then that is a matter to be taken up with the individual by their line manager, but to tar everyone with the same brush is insulting and out of order.

Vanessa Smith ● 7446d8 Comments ● 7443d

Royal mail

Is anyone else having problems with post deliveries.  Can the postmen read ?  They seem to be able to get the number of the door right, but not the street. Yesterday we had two letters for the right number - wrong street.

Pat Kingham ● 7451d29 Comments ● 7444d

ICSF Meeting tonight 06/12/04

We have a varied agenda for tonights meeting which i hope many of you can attend.The meeting starts at 7.30pm at the Public Hall on South St Isleworth.ISLEWORTH COMMUNITY SAFETY FORUM MEETING AGENDA 06TH DECEMBER 20041,  Chairmans intro.welcomes,apologies for absences.2,  Attendance list and circulation list (please add contact details)3,Minutes from last meeting (20th September 2004)4,Matters arising 5,Treasures report6,Chairmans report7,Secretarys report8, Old Isleworth calming plan latest9,West Middlesex carpark and revision of Park Rd parking10,The development of a footpath above the mill basin11,CCTV cameras update.12,Police issues relating to thefts,burglary etc.13.A.O.B14, confirmation of next meeting.Please note we have a dedicated email address for any correspondence which is icsf2004@yahoo.com and a website you can find at http://icsf.biz

Paul Fisher ● 7445d2 Comments ● 7444d

Please lend your support

Before this link gets lost on another thread,please have a look and if you agree then please join the online petition.http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/Ridgeways_boatyard

Paul Fisher ● 7450d5 Comments ● 7444d

Burglaries - Lionel Rd North, Carville Crescent & Chestnut Ave

There have been a few recent burglaries as well as attempted burglaries around Lionel Road North, Carville Crescent & Chestnut Ave The suspects have either smashed the glass in rear windows or tried to force them open, or broken into a garage and stolen a bicycle We advise you to be vigilant and report anything suspicious or any unusual activity to policeFor advice on improving home security, please contact our Crime Prevention Office on 8247 6423

Brentford Police ● 7445d2 Comments ● 7444d

Car club in Brentford/Ealing?

Is there a shared car club in Brentford? If there is, I'd like to know how well it works..Listened to a programme about car clubs on BBC Radio5Live this morning and I think the idea is an excellent one. I use my car only occasionally(1000 miles a year) and rely mainly on minicabs and my bicycle for transport and the wonderful London busses, of course), so a shared car on an internet booked basis would be ideal for my family. Anyone know if there's a car club in Ealing? I wonder if our Council might be interested? Does anyone have experience of car clubs - the pros and cons of their workings - and costs please?

Gerry Tan ● 7444d0 Comments ● 7444d

Carol services

Does anybody know when there will be carol services in the Brentford, Ealing or Chiswick area churches?Thank you!

Sarah Davies ● 7445d1 Comments ● 7445d

What's a nice happy Christmas?

I'd like to hear your views about what makes for a nice happy Christmas. I'm still getting a little warm glow remembering a question someone posted on the ChiswickW4 forum a few weeks back. A lady asked if there was a local charity where she could help out on Christmas day as she was going to be alone this year and wanted something useful to do. I thought that was nice. ;-)

Gerry Tan ● 7446d5 Comments ● 7445d

Farmers market again

Do the un-official un-elected members of the Brentford and (Isleworth) have plans to meet for a shandy after the next farmers market in a designated watering hole at a pre-determined time?

Paul Fisher ● 7451d20 Comments ● 7445d

Brentford High St Redevelopment

Can anyone tell me what happened to the proposals for redeveloping the south side of Brentford High St? We were going to get another supermarket and perhaps a cinema (can't recall whether this idea was dropped). The local paper was full of plans a couple of years ago. Can't say I've kept up since.

Karen Adams ● 7816d46 Comments ● 7445d

Anyone diabetic? How are you doing? Shall we start a thread?

A jar of lemon tea contains....83% sugar!!Those "healthy cereals" from Kelloggs contain......25%-35% sugar!Some Cooking Oils contain 100% fat!Does anyone belong to a Diabetic Club?  or go to information gathering sessions?

Jim Lawes ● 7447d1 Comments ● 7447d

Canalside History of Brentford

Kew Steam Museum opened an audio-visual exhibition on the changes in Brentford's waterside last night. It will run from today until February 28th.Maps from the 16th Century on, paintings, illustrations and old photos plus taperecorded reminiscences, all chart our changing scene.Go and have a look!

Nigel Moore ● 7449d2 Comments ● 7447d

hand car wah

being the mother of a three year old who loves to get whatever hes eating right into the seats and on the floor, my car always needs cleaning. ive tried nearly everyone of these places in our local area i have never happy with the result. i fell no sooner had i got out it was finished and was being asked for the money. living in a flat its impossible to do it myself (ok i am lazy!). today i tried the new one behind nat west bank in brentford high street. they spent about 45 minutes and cleaned every bit of my car. even getting all the stains out of seats. they have a system whereas 2nd visit is half price and 3rd visit is free. that in itself is good deal but they were so friendly and helpful. my car is the cleanest its ever been. will never go anywhere elso now - well worth a visit.

M Dowling ● 7450d12 Comments ● 7448d

music/dance/gym classes for under 5's

i am struggling with ideas to keep my son busy until he starts nursery school next sept. looking for group activites. any info about music session at watermans or gym class at leisure centre. any personal recomendations welcome of places we can go and have a look at.

M Dowling ● 7450d1 Comments ● 7449d

Sponsored walk to raise money for local Church

I was wondering if I might use this forum to promote an activity which I would like to think is for a good cause.During the last week in September I will be attempting a one-man sponsored walk from my local Church (Isleworth Congregational) to Abingdon in Oxfordshire, taking the long (i.e. river) route.  I am advised it is about 85 miles in total.  I did this route once before and it took me around 27 hours, but I was seventeen then and I'm...well...a little more than seventeen now.The purpose of the walk is to raise money towards the installation of access and washroom facilities for the disabled at the Church.  Being an old building, there are feasibility issues which make this installation a particularly complex and difficult task.If anybody reading this forum feels inspired to help a local Church, or would like to do something for people with disabilities, or simply has too much money and is looking for an excuse to give some away, then he/she should feel free to call me on 020 8891 6359 (answerphone) or at phil@isleworth.org giving contact details and the amount that he/she would like to contribute - either per mile or as a fixed total.  Any contributions, no matter how small, will be very gratefully received.Thank you.

Phil Andrews ● 7544d27 Comments ● 7450d

Rats in Brentford

Has anyone else encountered the plague of rats in Brentford or is it just me they appear to be following?  If I have a phobia at all its rats!  I really am terrified of them and for the last few years I know Brentford has had a problem but they have never been so visible until recently.  A while ago whilst attending the Brentford Health Centre as I parked my car I watched 2 well fed rats slink along the outside of the building.  That was bad enough.A few months back early one morning a rat practically ran over my foot at Albany Parade.However the other night in the safety of my first floor flat, I happened to look out the window which is opposite a meat processing factory and I noticed in the car park what I first thought was a cat (it was huge) then I realised it was in fact a rat.  This was joined by another huge rat then within minutes the car park was awash with them.  It was hard trying to count them because they were scampering in and out of pallets and a skip but at one point I did manage to count 8.  I phoned pest control at the civic centre and got an answerphone telling me to leave a message which I did, name, address and phone number.  They did not return my call.  I called again the next day and they said they didn't know which Layton Road I meant (this didn't explain why they had not returned my call) however I am now obsessed with checking the car park and sure enough round about 5.30 the rats appear.  Layton Road must be the worst road in Brentford it has the lot, derelict buildings, litter and rubbish, the railway line, foxes and now rats.  I am so pleased I moved here (not).

Bernadette Paul ● 7521d40 Comments ● 7450d

Current news item: Lady Diana tapes:  an Isleworth connection.

Just for information purposes...you might be interested to know that the disputed tape recordings being aired in the USA have a link with Isleworth.Mr Settelen, Lady Diane's voice coach lives/lived in Osterley and apparently he made and owns the recordings.His family were beset with a tradegy some years ago..and the website named below is a touching family dedication to their daughter.http://www.elliesettelen.net/index.htmo

Jim Lawes ● 7451d10 Comments ● 7450d

Residents"You are being shortchanged in your Policing" says local Police Chief

At the Civic Centre tonight..at the Borough Community Police Consultative Group meeting....it was announced that Chief Superintendent Jeff Harris,Hounslow's Police chief will be moving to a new post outside thr Borough in January.The meeting had just started when the announcement was made...and the Chairman praised Jeff for his outstanding service...both on the Committee...and in the Community. Jeff was given a standing ovation.He certainly has come over as a very personable and communicative person and his departure will be a great loss. No new appointment has yet been made.At the end of the meeting...when Jeff was summarising his thoughts on the Hounslow Policing..I could hardly believe my ears...and started to scribble frantically ..as he said that "you (Hounslow's boroughwide citizens) have been shortchanged in your policing.""We should have 495 officers to fulfill our line up..and sometimes we have been up to 9% down"  (40?) "At the moment we have 481..We are below staff level"  " We are a very undersatffed Borough""Too often we lose staff so that they can cover duties outside the Borough...sometimes 14 Borough Officers are missing in this way."Some local Boroughs in London are OVERSTAFFED with Police..and yet sometime their numbers are not depleted in the same way for external duties.Jeff said...(this our Hounslow Police Chief)..."I have banged heads...and made noise..to higher authority..but without success"When my officers have to leave the Borough for these other duties ..it means that there are less officers available for work in Hounslow"  "I have over £200,000 of dosh allocated for Police Pay...but I cannot get staff allocated to me (I think that what he said)Jeff...really cracking on with wizzo lines...said that WE ALL "should be challenging our MP's (cough cough)...our Councillors...(the MPA?)and voice his and our concern"  A letter to the Commissioner of Police was also suggested.Its 11.30..I need to go out for an hour..there's lots more to report.PS No ChiswickW4.com members attended..except me and Sally Henfield  writing (properly) from BC&I Times....and all those seats and sandwiches had been laid on!!!!

Jim Lawes ● 7466d21 Comments ● 7451d

Public services

In your opinion what is good or bad about public services? What do you get for your taxes? What do you want?

Gareth Evans ● 7456d7 Comments ● 7451d

What were the policital " boundary changes"?

The front page article about the new LibDem candidate for Brentford and Isleworth (& Chiswick) constituency includes the following statement."Ann Keen currently holds the seat with a majority of over 10,000 but boundary changes have removed some wards from the constituency that were traditionally Labour strongholds."Which wards.."Labour strongholds"... are no longer in the constituency? How many wards currently in the constituency?

Jim Lawes ● 7452d6 Comments ● 7451d

shortest Thread

Been out of Radio Range , anyone know who won the Rugby ,League and Union.

Michael D Giddings ● 7454d15 Comments ● 7451d

Hairdressers - formerly "Ideas for Brentford Lock"

As it was really posted in the wrong place initially my partner has asked me to post this question again.......Thanks."Hi, apologies in that this is not a reference to Class A3 planning permission, but when "the boss" saw that Liz had commented that, "As for shops, well most of us have to go elsewhere! There are no clothes shops at all."  she asked me to post a question on her behalf.  Can anybody suggest a good lady's hairdresser in the area?"

David Johnson ● 7454d24 Comments ● 7451d

A bad day for freedom and foxes...

Yes, I think foxes are cute too and I don't particularly want to go on a hunt either,but I respect the rights of others who do. It's ironic that nanny wants to ban the least efficient way of culling foxes(most get away)on the grounds of animal welfare and cruelty.That,it seems to me, is a complete nonsense when you consider what a miserable life pigs,chickens and cows have.Many of them are kept in nightmare conditions only to face a terrifying and miserable death. A fox,in relation, has a wonderful life.The chase, granted , must be terrifying for it and if it is fit and strong ,it will get away.This is simply the Dennis Skinners of the world having a go at the aristocracy,coupled with a few Jeremy and Jemimahs from Islington trying to 'modernise'everything.

Keith Iddon ● 7458d24 Comments ● 7451d

Brentford Lock - YOUR IDEAS & THOUGHTS PLEASE!

Having recently joined purely from the angle of market research on a new business I wish to bring to Brentford Lock, I would like to say how useful and resourceful this website is and how interesting the forum threads are.Getting to the chase, I am one of the few independents who have secured retail space at Brentford Lock , and in particular a unit with A3 (restaurant) planning permission in the Heron View retail units. I am in the process of researching the needs of not only the residents of Brentford Lock, but also residents of Brentford at large. Please do also speak up if any of you are residents of Brentford Lock itself.What I would like to understand is what you feel would work well and what you feel would not work well in that area, considering its location, what already is available in Brentford, target market and what you feel Brentford lacks that would benefit the residents at large.At present I cannot be more detailed in what I wish to bring to the Lock, purely from the angle of current lease negotiations with the Landlord, so sorry for that, but do bare in mind that my unit comes with A3 (restaurant) permission.My unit is the smaller of the 3 that come with A3 permission, excluding the public house on the corner, so I want to use the space ideally. 1500 sq ft is not overly large to put togther a new restuarant concept, considering the amount of space that will be dedicated to back of house, toilets, kitchen, prep, ofiice etc and then get enough covers in to make it viable.If you wish to ask more questions about